Ukraine war mega thread

[bsnub]

bsnub has only ever had one idea in his neanderthal mind.

Good god, you are another one. An absolute imbecile that bleated on and on for months that Russia would never invade, while claiming that western intelligence was lying about the invasion.

You are a buffoon and a lair, you kneel under a madman and suck his micro-penis.

Some of the rest of us don't wanna see the world burn.

Utter idiocy. Your tinpot despot started an unprovoked war, and he is going to pay a heavy price for his mental illness.

[sabang]

Sorry pal, but there is a new world order emerging- shit or get off the can. Your government is failing You, your Allies, and the World.

[bsnub]

You are a blinkered imbecile.

[misskit]

^^This whole Ukraine debacle has convinced me this is not so.



Mariupol residents ‘deported to Russia’ as Ukrainian city handed ultimatum

Russia has been accused of forcibly abducting and deporting thousands of citizens of Mariupol, as fears that captives are being shipped to forced labour camps.


The Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said she is ‘appalled’ by the unverified reports, which have sparked comparisons with the conduct of the Nazis during World War Two.


Mariupol has been battered by air strikes and fierce fighting – but on Sunday Russia issued an ultimatum calling on the city’s residents to lay down their arms.


Ukrainian MPs have claimed that Moscow deported some citizens to ‘distant parts of Russia’ to work without payment.

Ms Truss condemned the ‘Russian atrocities’ in the south-eastern port city, pledging that President Vladimir Putin would be ‘held to account’.


She tweeted: ‘I am appalled by Russian atrocities in Mariupol, including attacks on schools sheltering civilians and the abduction and deportation of Ukrainians.


‘Putin is resorting to desperate measures as he is not achieving his objectives.

‘Putin and his regime will be held to account.’


Ukrainian MP Inna Sovsun said that, according to information being shared by the city’s authorities, her countrymen and women were effectively being forced into slave labour.


She told Times Radio: ‘The very logic of Russia right now is the logic of the Soviet Union and the logic of Nazi Germany.


‘It is a completely totalitarian state, and it is acting as one.


‘So, from what we know from the city mayor and the city council, is they are taking Ukrainian citizens.

‘They are sending them through what are called the “filtration camps” and then they are being relocated to very distant parts of Russia, where they are being forced to sign papers (saying) that they will stay in that area for two or three years and they will work for free in those areas.’


It comes after Putin’s forces bombed an art school sheltering 400 people in the city.


That comes after a separate attack on a theatre in the city where more than 1,000 people were said to have been bunkered – it remains unclear how many survived.


Meanwhile, Russia called for the city to surrender, with Mariupol expected to falls into Russian hands.


Colonel-General Mikhail Mizintsev, the director of the Russian National Center for Defense Management, told the area to ‘lay down your arms’.

‘A terrible humanitarian catastrophe has developed,’ he said.


‘All who lay down their arms are guaranteed safe passage out of Mariupol.’


Russia has been accused of firing on humanitarian convoys previously.


Among a string of baseless claims, Mizintsev said humanitarian corridors for civilians would be opened eastwards and westwards out of Mariupol at 10am Moscow time on Monday.

Ukraine has until 5 am Moscow time to respond to the offer on humanitarian corridors and laying down arms, he said.


Mariupol is in the throes of a humanitarian emergency after being encircled by Russian troops, cut off from energy, food and water supplies and facing a relentless bombardment.


Officials in the city said nearly 40,000 people have fled over the past week, almost 10% of its 430,000 population.


Earlier on Sunday, Boris Johnson used his call with Volodymyr Zelensky to condemn the ‘abhorrent attacks on innocent civilians’ seen in Mariupol.


Ukraine war: Russia 'deporting' residents of Mariupol | Metro News

[sabang]

No doubt you are willing to fight until every last drop of Ukrainian blood.

[misskit]

^What are you on about?

[harrybarracuda]

^What are you on about?

He honestly doesn't know most of the time. Lives in a tiny, warped world of his own.

[misskit]

I’ve yet to figure out why sabang thinks siding with Russia makes him anti-war.

[harrybarracuda]

I’ve yet to figure out why sabang thinks siding with Russia makes him anti-war.

He doesn't, he think it makes him look clever. In actual fact it makes him and the rest of them look like complete dumbarses.

[harrybarracuda]

* Wrong thread

[sabang]

I'm not siding with Russia, but if you lack the literacy to understand what I have repeatedly said- not my problem.

[misskit]

I just believe Ukraine has the right to become more Western and pull away from Russia. I also believe Russia would become more Western if their people were given the chance to make the decision. Sorry that Putin is so afraid of that. Fuck him.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

My response did confirm the cartoon, you utter shitgibbon. I will say this account has been hacked. Buck is 100% different posting all of a sudden. No food thread posts, just blind wincing slobbering Russian cocksucking.

This is another Smeg account hack.

My Mom always told me "when you play grab ass dont complain if someone grabs your ass. For that reason , I never played grab ass with anyone in this forum or elsewhere, That does not seem to have deter you.
Congratulations having chased another poster from this forum. Enjoy your echo chamber.

[sabang]

^^ If you are saying 'let the people decide' I 100% agree. I think it would be entirely fair to hold a Referendum in the 'restive' parts of Ukraine to see if a majority wish to stay with the post Maidan regime, or choose to go their own way. You will find however that is the last thing either the Zelsnsky gov't or uncle sam wants.

[misskit]

Sure. That is, if the referendum actually gave the choice of going with Russia or staying with Ukraine. Not some dodgy poll that only gives the choice of Russia or being their own little useless country.

[sabang]

The Crimean referendum was about rejoining with Russia actually. These would be about either staying with post revolution Ukraine, or Independence.

[nidhogg]

My Mom always told me "when you play grab ass dont complain if someone grabs your ass. For that reason , I never played grab ass with anyone in this forum or elsewhere, That does not seem to have deter you.
Congratulations having chased another poster from this forum. Enjoy your echo chamber.

You should not let bsnub get to you. He has an insanely aggressive posting style, but I put it down to the booze.

[pickel]

Not at all. You don't really think the Russians are threatened by the Ukrainians? The Russians are threatened by those the Ukrainians want to bring behind them.
Whom the cartoon artist conveniently left out.

Ukraine would never invade Russia. They are not a threat to Russia. And if you think NATO in Eastern Europe is a threat to Russia, the fact that they have not attacked Russia when given a good enough excuse such as the war in Ukraine, is just another fallacy. NATO is a defensive alliance.

I don't understand how anybody can not view Russia as the bad guys here.

[kingwilly]

I don't understand how anybody in their right mind with a modicum of empathy can not view Russia as the bad guys here.

FTFY.

[helge]

My Mom always told me "when you play grab ass dont complain if someone grabs your ass. For that reason , I never played grab ass with anyone in this forum or elsewhere, That does not seem to have deter you.
Congratulations having chased another poster from this forum. Enjoy your echo chamber.

You'll be missed.

Bsnub is, like others on this forum, merely an, at best, uninformed puff of hot air.

If he gets to you, ignore him.

You won't miss a thing....apart from the occasionally overbearing giggle.


He's a child

[panama hat]

A perfect depiction of the insanity . . .

Not at all. You don't really think the Russians are threatened by the Ukrainians? The Russians are threatened by those the Ukrainians want to bring behind them.

This was an illegal and unprovoked war, and to paint it any other way is beyond reprehensible.

I simply commented on the cartoons and why I think it is inaccurate

Excellent . . . and Russia invaded Ukraine and has killed thousands and is killing thousands more. Your 'want to bring behind them' doesn't even make sense

[sabang]

bsnub & ilk I collectively title the boneheads. They are quite amusing actually, albeit depressingly predictable and inane. I don't see why a reasoned person need do more than laugh at them.

[Backspin]

Even I followed Rob Lee before the war. He had some credibility. But he was marshalled into the propaganda offensive at the very start of the war and has since destroyed his reputation.

PhD student @warstudies. Senior Fellow @FPRI. Previously @USMC, @ColumbiaSIPA, @CentreAST, and @AlfaFellowship

But the propaganda did work. Especially at the start. I'll give them that. But the game is up. Here's the thread https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1505859812491468806

[sabang]

Russian President Vladimir Putin has always had a special place in Italy. Few will forget how former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi bedded a call girl on a frilly bed the Russian leader gave him, or how Putin’s late night visits to Berlusconi’s “bunga bunga” villa near Milan made the society pages. Not to mention Italy’s now painful dependence on Russian gas thanks to a deal cut in the 1990s, or how before sanctions, Russia was one of the largest importers of Made-in-Italy luxe goods. The island of Sardinia and posh Lake Como are dotted with Russian-owned villas and prior to sanctions, Russian yachts had dedicated docks on Sardinia’s Emerald Coast.

Italy was one of the last holdouts before signing on to European sanctions, earning scorn from former President of the European Council Donald Tusk who criticized Italy by name. “Putin’s madness and cruelty, Ukrainian victims, bombs falling on Kyiv,” he wrote days after the invasion began. “Only your sanctions are pretended. Those EU governments, which blocked tough decisions (i.e. Germany, Hungary, Italy) have disgraced themselves.”

Italy eventually signed on but Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi admitted that Italy, having the closest ties to Russia among the EU, said it would be difficult for the country. “In case of interruptions of gas supplies from Russia, Italy has more to lose compared to other European countries that rely on different sources,” Draghi told the Italian Parliament as he sought approval for signing onto sanctions. “This does not diminish our determination to support sanctions that we deem justified and necessary.”

Over the weekend, Russian foreign minister Alexey Paramonov accused Italy of falling victim to “anti-Russian hysteria” and mentioned how Russia had flown in medical equipment and respirators when Italy was hit hard early on in the COVID-19 pandemic. “Italy had forgotten centuries-long relations and bilateral agreements in a second,” he said.

Draghi called it “particularly odious and unacceptable” to compare the invasion of Ukraine to the pandemic crisis.
But now, a month into a senseless war where thousands of civilians have been killed, towns have been leveled and millions of people displaced—including 55,000 who have already arrived in Italy—it would seem everyone is on the same page against Putin.

Or not.

A handful of Italian parliamentarians have announced they will boycott an online address by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky scheduled for Tuesday morning. Among the many reasons? They didn’t invite Putin to give his side of the was story.

Full Article- Italian Lawmakers Boycott Zelensky Address Because It’s ‘Unfair’ to Putin (msn.com)


Oh Dear. Why haven't these people been cancelled?

[bsnub]

Bsnub is, like others on this forum, merely an, at best, uninformed puff of hot air.

Uninformed because I saw this war coming for months, while others on here who claim to be "intellectual" railed like lunatics for months that I was wrong and the west was lying.

Ya sure, just go with that.

bsnub & ilk I collectively title the boneheads.

I have come across many pseudo-intellectuals like yourself in my day. Many turtleneck wearing, pipe clutching half dusted on cheap wine attempting to come off as the next Nobel Prize winner.

Your position is one of utter failure. You have consistently got things wrong because you are reaching for something that is not there.

Care to stand by your comments that Russia would never invade, even when 200k troops were massed at the border in the dead of winter?

Do to your own idiocy you have boxed yourself in with two other lemmings on here, especially the idiot posting above you. Yet, you claim to be standing on the intellectual high ground.