Ukraine war mega thread

[helge]

But is Russia validly there at all? This is Ukraine’s question. The UN Charter says that the USSR, not Russia, is the permanent member.

But the UN Charter also says that Taiwan, not Mainland China, is the permanent member

[helge]

This is not a "supported coup" it's a fucking invasion you moron.

Put the bottle down, Harry

And read again

[Backspin]

Stop the economic nuclear war all. It doesn't work this way

40-50% of all exports of neon come from Russia & Ukraine. Neon = byproduct of steel manufacturing which is critical for chip manufacturing. When Russia entered eastern Ukraine in 2014, price of neon jumped 600 % disrupting the semiconductor industry
https://www.ft.com/content/cf0212cf-21f3-4520-ae5f-136ce3f78afc https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1499036374254723072/photo/1

[sabang]

Analysis-Getting rid of Russian assets a big problem for U.S. fund managers



NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. investors holding Russian assets are finding themselves in an increasingly difficult position on working out how to ditch them.

The United States, Britain, Europe and Canada announced new sanctions on Saturday - including blocking certain banks' access to the SWIFT international payment system - following Russia's invasion of Ukraine. That has sent a wave of investors announcing they are cutting positions in Russia.

But investors trying to sell their Russian assets are being left with a problem: How to do it?

Russia's central bank retaliated by banning Russian brokers from selling securities held by foreigners, although it did not specify assets for which the ban applies. Compounding that, Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin said on Tuesday the country will temporarily stop foreign investors from selling Russian assets to ensure they make a considered decision.

Moscow's move to impose capital controls means that billions of dollars worth of securities held by foreigners in Russia are at risk of being trapped.

"It’s a pickle," said Brett Johnson, partner at Snell & Wilmer. "If I was an investor, I would be really concerned by what the Russian government is doing right now. I would be very, very concerned about that investment and how it’s going to play out over the long term."

Some U.S. investors had been able to gain access to the Russian market by purchasing American Depositary Receipts (ADRs), which are certificated issues by U.S. banks that represent shares in foreign companies for trading on U.S. stock exchanges, or buying on over-the-counter exchanges. But Nasdaq Inc and Intercontinental Exchange Inc's NYSE have temporarily halted trading in the stocks of Russia-based companies listed on their exchanges due to regulatory concerns, people familiar with the matter said.

"It’s a real problem for investors to be able to somehow unwind their exposures," said Andrew Karolyi, a professor of finance at Cornell University, who said that Russia in general was a very difficult market to access for global investors, which is why using American depository receipts had been an important vehicle.

Karolyi said the way to offload those securities "would be to work through the depository banks that have issued these receipts," pointing to intermediaries like JPMorgan, Bank of New York Mellon and Citigroup, to cancel the receipts toward owning the ordinary shares that underlie them. JPM did not immediately respond to a request for comment, Citi did not immediately provide a comment, and BNY declined comment.

"Being able to actually move those immobilized ordinary shares is just really, really difficult," Karolyi said.

In the over-the-counter markets, ADRs of Sberbank were still trading, according to OTC Markets Group, which showed that more than 20 million of the sanctioned Russian bank's ADR shares had been traded by 2 p.m. EST, versus a 30-day average of just under 3 million shares.

Analysis-Getting rid of Russian assets a big problem for U.S. fund managers (msn.com)

[OhOh]

The UN Charter says that the USSR, not Russia, is the permanent member.

Changed after the Soviet Union was dissolved, some years ago, Dec. 1991.

You're welcome.

Dissolution and succession by Russia

"In the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union, 11 Soviet republics—all except the Baltic states and Georgia—signed the Alma-Ata Protocol on 21 December 1991, establishing the Commonwealth of Independent States and declaring that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist.

The Protocol provided that the Russian Federation would assume Soviet Union's United Nation membership, including its permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council. The resignation of Soviet President Gorbachev on 25 December 1991 and the dissolution of the Soviet of the Republics the following day formalized the end of the Soviet Union.


On 24 December 1991, the Soviet Permanent Representative to the United Nations Yuli Vorontsov delivered to the Secretary-General of the United Nations a letter from the Russian President Boris Yeltsin. The letter stated that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist, and that Russia would continue the Soviet Union's membership in the United Nations and maintain the full responsibility for all the rights and obligations of the Soviet Union under the United Nations Charter.

The letter was circulated among the United Nations membership without any objection, and Russia formally took over the Soviet Union's seat in the United Nations General Assembly, in the Security Council and in other organs of the United Nations.^[10] The letter also confirmed the credentials of Soviet representatives to represent Russia, and Soviet representatives to the various United Nations agencies continued serving as Russian representatives without presenting new credentials. Ambassador Vorontsov continued serving as the first Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the United Nations.^[10] "


Permanent members

The following is a table of the current permanent members of the U.N. Security Council.

Country	Current state representation	Former state representation	Current executive leaders	Current representative
China	People's Republic of China	Republic of China[d] (1945–1971)	General Secretary and President: Xi Jinping[e] Premier: Li Keqiang[f]	Zhang Jun[7]
France	French Republic	Provisional Government of the French Republic (1945–1946) French Fourth Republic (1946–1958)	President: Emmanuel Macron Prime Minister: Jean Castex	Nicolas de Rivière[8]
Russia	Russian Federation	Union of Soviet Socialist Republics(1945–1991)	President: Vladimir Putin Prime Minister: Mikhail Mishustin	Vasily Nebenzya[9]
United Kingdom	United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland	N/A	Monarch: Elizabeth II Prime Minister: Boris Johnson	Barbara Woodward[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_members_of_the_United_Nations_Security_C ouncil


Similar information can be found at the site regarding the status of PRC UNSC seat.

Taiwan is not a UN recognised country.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/member-states#gotoP

[helge]

^Not my quote, OhOh

[harrybarracuda]

Put the bottle down, Harry

And read again

Once of your horseshit is enough that's if I can even be bothered.

[harrybarracuda]

June 19, 1961 - Kuwait
January 1, 1962 - Samoa
July 1, 1962 - Burundi
July 1, 1962 - Rwanda
July 5, 1962 - Algeria
August 6, 1962 - Jamaica
August 31, 1962 - Trinidad and Tobago
October 9, 1962 - Uganda
December 12, 1963 - Kenya
April 26, 1964 - Tanzania
July 6, 1964 - Malawi
Sept.21, 1964 - Malta
October 24, 1964 - Zambia
February 18, 1965 - Gambia, The
July 26, 1965 - Maldives
August 9, 1965 - Singapore
May 26, 1966 - Guyana
September 30, 1966 - Botswana
October 4, 1966 - Lesotho
November 30, 1966 - Barbados
January 31, 1968 - Nauru
March 12, 1968 - Mauritius
Sept. 6, 1968 - Swaziland
October 12, 1968 - Equatorial
June 4, 1970 - Tonga
October 10, 1970 - Fiji
March 26, 1971 - Bangladesh
August 15, 1971 - Bahrain
Sept. 3, 1971 - Qatar
November 2, 1971 - United Arab Emirates
July 10, 1973 - Bahamas
Sept. 24, 1973 - Guinea-Bissau
February 7, 1974 - Grenada
June 25, 1975 - Mozambique
July 5, 1975 - Cape Verde
July 6, 1975 - Comoros
July 12, 1975 - Sao Tome and Principe
Sept. 16, 1975 - Papua New Guinea
November 11, 1975 - Angola
November 25, 1975 - Suriname
June 29, 1976 - Seychelles
June 27, 1977 - Djibouti
July 7, 1978 - Solomon Islands
October 1, 1978 - Tuvalu
November 3, 1978 - Dominica
February 22, 1979 - Saint Lucia
July 12, 1979 - Kiribati
October 27, 1979 - Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
April 18, 1980 - Zimbabwe
July 30, 1980 - Vanuatu
January 11, 1981 - Antigua and Barbuda
Sept.21, 1981 - Belize
Sept. 19, 1983 - Saint Kitts and Nevis
January 1, 1984 - Brunei
October 21, 1986 - Marshall Islands
November 3, 1986 - Micronesia, Federated States of
March 11, 1990 - Lithuania
March 21, 1990 - Namibia
May 22, 1990 - Yemen
April 9, 1991 - Georgia
June 25, 1991 - Croatia
June 25, 1991 - Slovenia
August 21, 1991 - Kyrgyzstan
August 24, 1991 - Russia
August 25, 1991 - Belarus
August 27, 1991 - Moldova
August 30, 1991 - Azerbaijan
Sept. 1, 1991 - Uzbekistan
Sept. 6, 1991 - Latvia
Sept. 8, 1991 - Macedonia
Sept. 9, 1991 - Tajikistan
Sept. 21, 1991 - Armenia
October 27, 1991 - Turkmenistan
November 24, 1991 - Ukraine
December 16, 1991 - Kazakhstan
March 3, 1992 - Bosnia and Herzegovina
January 1, 1993 - Czech Republic
January 1, 1993 - Slovakia
May 24, 1993 - Eritrea
October 1, 1994 - Palau
May 20, 2002 - East Timor
June 3, 2006 - Montenegro
June 5, 2006 - Serbia
February 17, 2008 - Kosovo
July 9, 2011 - South Sudan


Just a short list of countries that didn’t exist when Spurs last won the league.

[helge]

^^At your age, it could be an idea to read twice before you attack your keyboard

[OhOh]

^Not my quote, OhOh

Fixed.

[helge]

Double trouble

[helge]

Fixed.

Thanks

I quoted the same as Harry's, cause I knew he would appreciate it

[OhOh]

"We are not Americans!" military expert refuted the main myths about the special military operation in Ukraine

28 February 2022

Vladimir Trukhan, Colonel of the Central Office of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Reserve, shares his opinion on current events in Belarus and Ukraine

On the YouTube channel published his interview, in which he expresses his opinion on many points of what is happening now in Ukraine, explaining the following:

"1. There are NO conscripts in the military operation. Only contractors who have undergone appropriate training. Therefore, Belarusians do not participate - they have the entire army under conscription, there are no professional contractors. Therefore, if someone squeals about the "corpses of Russian conscript boys", you can safely spit in his eyes.

2. There can be no question of any 3.5 thousand killed Russian servicemen: such a number of killed would mean several times more wounded, which means that all roads would be clogged with ambulances in the opposite direction plus the mass deployment of field hospitals – it is impossible to hide it. We do not observe anything like this even in Ukrainian publics.

3. Cases of "captivity of single Russian fighters", which are promoted by Bandera's propaganda, are unlikely - a single unauthorized person who went to a neighboring village for moonshine can be captured, but this is not a fighter, this is a slob. A single fighter during the operation in isolation from the column - and who will let him leave?4.

Cases of burned columns on the march are possible, this is a war, anything can happen. Someone made a mistake, did not keep track, had to throw with empty tanks. For this, someone will pay with epaulettes. In this case, presumably, the abandoned empty columns are burned by the APU retroactively for staged videos.

5. The same with "missiles, ammunition and fuel, which are cut off and which will last for 3-4 days" - enchanting nonsense. Military operations of this level are prepared for several months at least, everything is calculated and stored in advance with excessive reservation for all cases.

6. The main leitmotif of the actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is "we are not Americans". It is they, seeing something or someone on the way, first throw a grenade, and then begin to understand, and then if it comes to this. Therefore, a careful detour of a failed suicide, who tried to get under the tanks, is the rule. No one is going to breed mountains of corpses, if a person does not resist, why kill him?

7. The explosion of the dam of the North Crimean Canal is a preventive measure if one of the frostbitten Nazis decides to blow up a higher dam so that the water has somewhere to go. The same applies to nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power plants and other infrastructure facilities – they are taken under control without fail.

8. The distribution of weapons to the unprepared population, as well as all sorts of "Molotov cocktails", in confrontation with professionals is an enchanting dolbo-lizardism. "Three or four stun grenades are enough for them to squirm on the spot, drop their weapons and run away." This will bring nothing but the blood of the civilian population at the hands of bandits. After that, it becomes clear that all the actions of the "teroboronists" who destroy road signs, chase after those who allegedly apply markings on the roofs, and even undermine bridges, are simply stupidity and complete incompetence. For a modern tanker still needs to be lured to an unknown bridge - why should he risk flying from the collapsed span of the bridge of an unknown condition, when it is easier to force an obstacle on a pontoon?

9. Kadyrovtsy, trained to fight terrorists in urban conditions and have undergone appropriate training, will clean up the stubborn.

10. The units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation participating in the operation do not use mortars. All mortar shelling, all mortar explosions in residential areas (Sumy, Okhtyrka, in Donbass), especially in meaningless places where there is neither military nor energy infrastructure, are provocations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and teroboronists in order to influence the consciousness of the local population.

Summing up the interview, Vladimir Trukhan noted that there are no non-professionals in the operation. He focused on the fact that "the operation was prepared long in advance in all respects and the plan has a bunch of branches for all sorts of course of events.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin on February 24 announced a special military operation in Ukraine in response to the appeal of the leaders of the Republics of Donbass for help. He stressed that Moscow's plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories, the goal is the demilitarization and denazification of the country.

As stated in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Russian military does not strike at cities, but disables only military infrastructure, so nothing threatens the civilian population."

"Мы не американцы!" Военный эксперт опроверг главные мифы о специальной военной операции на Украине

For no Russian speakers"

Link is in Russian, as is the video, use your full page/video language translator of choice.

[HermantheGerman]

^

You are sick OhOh for posting this garbage.
I stand by my statement that you are a communist scumbag.

[russellsimpson]

The UK government is open to removing Russia as one of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council

Good one!

[Backspin]

Here's some access journalism from 6 years ago. Vice News embedded with the Azov battalion. This is where the fighting is now.



Wiki

Azov Special Operations Detachment often known as Azov Detachment, Azov Regiment or Azov Battalion (until September 2014), is a right-wing extremist^[1] and neo-Nazi^[2][3][4] unit of the National Guard of Ukraine,^[5][6][7] based in Mariupol, in the Azov Sea coastal region.[

[pickel]

Like I said before, almost every country has it's share of Nazi's. There is the Russian Imperial Movement and Russian National Unity in Russia, and the Nazi's in America cheering for Putin. It is pure propaganda that Russia is labeling all Ukrainian Forces as being Nazi's, and using it to justify an invasion and socal sucks it right up.

[helge]

Like I said before, almost every country has it's share of Nazi's.

Very true

But not many countries that officially include them in their national defense though.

It is pure propaganda that Russia is labeling all Ukrainian Forces as being Nazi's,

Yes

the Nazi's in America cheering for Putin.

Yes

And some in the Asov regiment

[HermantheGerman]

Finally! OhOh communist/dictatorial bullshit post should also be banned.

EU officially boots Russia’s RT, Sputnik outlets

It’s now up to national regulators to ensure the sanctions against the Kremlin-backed news outlets are enforced.



Exclusive: Google blocks RT, Sputnik from Play app store in Europe

[helge]

You think that's a good idea ?

[HermantheGerman]

Very true
But not many countries that officially include them in their national defense though.

Absolutely!

Kadyrov Admits Chechen Casualties in Ukraine

[HermantheGerman]

You think that's a good idea

You don't ?

[helge]

Kadyrov Admits Chechen Casualties in Ukraine

Ha

The russians are not the heroes here

The ukraniens are.

And the heroes are associated with Nazis. Get it ?

You don't ?

No

If you have a one string information stream, you'll be lied to no end.


And I would like the russian population to hear the same that I'm being told.

Get that too ???????????

[Backspin]

Just seeing that column shows that Russia is not a threat to NATO at ALL. Now I understand why the US has only one armored division left. US air power would more than decimate the Russian conscript army and let's be frank the Russians sent in the airborne early on, and they have been totally wiped out now. Video on Reddit, TikTok, and YouTube can verify.

Russia has full air dominance over the whole country. This is the Syrian war all over again. Same BS by western "analysts" then too.

Doubling down on deluding yourself.

[Joe 90]

Does Biden know the difference between Ukrainian and Iraniun?