Ukraine war mega thread

[david44]

Here's what the Finns think of Russia, Backspin.

Jokerit Helsinki, a well-known Finnish team that plays out of the Russian-based Kontinental Hockey League (KHL), are leaving the league as a result of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Jokerit leaving KHL in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine

Yes very few people's who were colonised or controlled by unjust outsiders regret their parting.

It does not have to be so depends on skill of diplomats and non interference by other parties

Success the peaceful Czech-Slovak divorce,the hardr Sudan S Sudan break, teh new RSa, the Maori English quid pro quo treaty may be seen as better managed if not ideal.
Finland's attitude to Swedes and Russians, England-Ireland , Most of Africa sep Algeria-French not so much. Ireland had slaves in teh West Indies and of course colonialism started with Strongbow or them firbolgs, and the Tuatha Dé Danann depending on how long a view we take ,It is notable how few women have started wars, own house excepted

80 years the same Ukranian fields saw conflicts the same strategic Dnieper bridges, Kherson , Zaphorizhe

Russia has occupied from old duchy of Moscow Novogroad hub all the way to the Pacific the, Udmurt, Mongol, Kamchatka Finno Ugric peoples, Greeks, Jews Armenians Azeris, and all the The Stans

Since 1945
Dominated all of E Europe by bloody force Berlin 53, Budapest 56, Prague 68, Poland Gomulka riots and attempt to supress Solidarnosc, N Kuril Islands in Pacific
Under Putin S Ossetia in Georgia, Abkahzia , Crimea and now Ukraine meddling in the Stans Caucasus and cyber warfare globally.I t wasn't Gorbachev or even lush Yeltsin who is the problem and certainly not teh Russian people but this Putin a mass murderer who will join the hall of infamy with his ilk.
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They are not unique Portugal England Holland Spain France Habsburgs Ottomans Romans, Romans, Carthaginians all did what they could get away with in more primitive times.

Belarus wanted a Western democracy their brutal Putin ally means they too are now back under Putin's boot.
Serbs have many justified grievances during NATO bombings of course their hands will always be dirtied by the atrocities in Bosnian and Croatian wars.

Sad to see now outcry for peace from faith leaders or neutrals and disgraceful excuses by tiny pro commies in irrelevant places like Cuba Venezuela and Nicaragua but China! They don't want breakaways to get external support .

I suppose the new reality is

"HOW TO DEAL WITH A NUCLEAR BULLY"

Time for some new thinking before the PLA get's mobilized?

Thanks to all the contributors and viewpoints inc inter alia Backspin who reveals there are opportunities for education . My sincere advice to him is Go Ogle if to young to have lived through the history.

[David48atTD]

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I felt like that many time

[David48atTD]

Prime Minister Hun Sen has urged, via ASEAN, restraint on Russia and Ukerain. I hope they are listening.

Welcome back, who ever you are.

[David48atTD]

It was ONLY after the US claimed all of Ukraine for itself in 2014, when it initiated plans for it to join NATO.

Beyond the stupidity level.

You are a total fuckwit.


Chico was fun, he made mistakes to rile some folk here, and most never got it.

You, Backspin are a total waste ... please stop breathing my oxygen.

Intelligent debate is encouraged, no matter how polar it it is to the norn.

Being a total FUCKWIT is not.


If you love Russia so much ... fucking move there and start your Forum.

[David48atTD]

Just for the record, Putin should be assassinated.

Just quietly ...

[David48atTD]

What ? Bombing civilian infrastructure for 72 days wasn't wrong ? Russia hasn't touched civilian infrastructure.

More a Fuckwit ...

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[bsnub]

You are a total fuckwit.

He really is a putrid cretin if there ever was one.

[David48atTD]

Putin might ring his buddy Winnie the Pooh and tell him time to invade Taiwan

Just quietly, Ukraine is gone, unless gorilla war-fare is embraced by the Ukrainians.

Taiwan, will fall within a decade, maybe within 5 years.

The West has to accept and move on.

Sad, but true.

[David48atTD]

The Finnish fucking loath the Russians

That they did.

[Cujo]

The Ukranians need to also take the offensive, go into Russia and make them feel some pain.

[David48atTD]

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Hacker collective Anonymous has disabled several Russian government websites including the state-controlled "Russia Today" news service.

Key points:

• RT has been described as a major propaganda outlet for the Russian government
• The DDoS attack flooded the news website with malicious traffic, blocking access for at least several hours
• It is the first attack in an expected wave of "cyber activism" against the Russian government

Hackers identifying with the Anonymous collective announced they had launched cyber operations that briefly took down RT.com, as well as the websites of the Kremlin, the Russian government and the Russian defence ministry websites.

RT.com confirmed the attack took place, saying it slowed some websites down while taking others offline for "extended periods of time".

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[kingwilly]

Russia hasn't touched civilian infrastructure.

Lying again.

[bsnub]

Lying again.

He can't help himself.

[Switch]

Yes, but if you're a person living in a peaceful city (peaceful until some hours ago) and then you see those armoured vehicles (foreign) travelling through your streets, providing a show of force, wouldn't you be scared? I know I would!

indeed. Any military convoy, especially Armour, is very noisy. The sheer volume of vehicle heading to war can frighten people too.
In Germany, tracked vehicle were fitted with rubber pads to prevent road damage caused by the weight of tracked vehicle.
No offense was intended to you or your family. Just an observation based on accurate descriptions of the vehicle.
Describing a vehicle as a tank when it isn’t, could easily scare someone based on the description. Probably a bit late in the day for that now. :saint:

[bsnub]

In Germany, tracked vehicle were fitted with rubber pads to prevent road damage caused by the weight of tracked vehicle.

And they still did damage to the roads. The sheer size of them was enough to damage blacktop. They also had to have those yellow flashing lights, of course you are talking back to the Cold War, so you should provide some context since Katie is far younger than we are.

[Switch]

And they still did damage to the roads. The sheer size of them was enough to damage blacktop. They also had to have those yellow flashing lights, of course you are talking back to the Cold War, so you should provide some context since Katie is far younger than we are.

Thanks pop.

[david44]

The Ukrainians need to also take the offensive, go into Russia and make them feel some pain.

I understand the sentiment, but with a million+ Ukrainians inside Belarus and Russia proper and a minority in Donbass and many in Crimea who could be rounded up, sent to Siberia or worse used as human shields etc not sure it's a wise move, We saw Putin's response t Beslan school and Chechen rebels bombings.

Meanwhile as Tusk has quacked Germany Italy and Cyprus won't even endorse sanctions that'll take years as democracy dies in Ukraine.

Donald Tusk: EU capitals ‘disgraced themselves’ – POLITICO

[bsnub]

Thanks pop.

Fuck orf you wanker. You are older than me.

*don't worry, I won't tell Katie*

[david44]

Germany's shame .Latvian Minister agreed on BBC news interview, knowing they could be next.

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-tusk-eu-capitals-disgraced-themselves/

Donald Tusk: EU capitals ‘disgraced themselves’

Former European Council president slams member states that blocked tougher sanctions.
By David M. Herszenhorn
Updated Feb. 25, 2022 08:49 AM

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Former European Council President Donald Tusk said Friday that some EU governments had “disgraced themselves” by refusing to impose the toughest possible sanctions on Russia even as President Vladimir Putin was bombing Kyiv.


The remarkable rebuke by Tusk, who led meetings of the Council as president from 2014 to 2019, revealed deep divisions among Europe’s political elite at what is perhaps the Continent’s most acute moment of crisis since World War II.


“In this war everything is real: Putin’s madness and cruelty, Ukrainian victims, bombs falling on Kyiv,” Tusk posted on Twitter. “Only your sanctions are pretended [sic]. Those EU governments which blocked tough decisions (i.a. Germany, Hungary, Italy) have disgraced themselves.”


Tusk’s slap at Germany, the EU’s largest, richest member state and de facto leader of the union of 27 states, came hours after Chancellor Olaf Scholz led a group of leaders who blocked tougher sanctions during an emergency summit in Brussels.


In doing so, the EU heads of state and government rejected a personal appeal from Ukraine’s top leaders, including President Volodymyr Zelenskiy and Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba, for the toughest possible sanctions against Moscow, including cutting Russia off from the SWIFT international payments system.


The United States, Britain and some EU capitals have all indicated they support such a ban, but some countries — including Germany Italy, and Austria — said they wanted to keep some further sanctions ammunition in reserve.
In fact, Putin has made clear that sanctions imposed by the West will not stop him. The vicious military attack on Ukraine continued all across the country through the night and into Friday morning.


The European Council generally operates on the basis of unanimous consent, and particularly in emergency situations any one country is typically able to block a policy initiative, at least temporarily.


In a statement following Thursday night’s summit, Tusk’s successor, Charles Michel, insisted that the EU was trying to help Ukraine. “With international partners, we are acting decisively to support Ukraine with political, financial & humanitarian assistance,” Michel, who is a former Belgian prime minister, tweeted.


But Zelenskiy on Friday morning from Kyiv said that his country was fighting alone while “the most powerful forces of the world are watching from afar.”

[Backspin]

RUSSIA: “Russia will ensure the demilitarization of Ukraine. Russia will ensure the denazification of Ukraine. Nazis caused Russians great suffering, and nazis caused Ukrainians great suffering— we’re not just going to turn a blind eye to this.”

[Backspin]

The Ukranians need to also take the offensive, go into Russia and make them feel some pain.

Ah Capt. Chickhawk we have here.

[Backspin]

Tell us you do not know history, without telling us you do not know history.

I meant since independence

[bsnub]

It is time for this turd to be flushed. At least for the time being.

Why do we have to endure skiddy disrupting these threads with bullshit?

We have enough propaganda without this clown reposting it.

[nidhogg]

Russia will ensure the denazification of Ukraine.

The president of Ukraine is Jewish you fucking shit gibbon.

Think before you post or fuck the fuck off.

[Backspin]

It is time for this turd to be flushed. At least for the time being.

Why do we have to endure skiddy disrupting these threads with bullshit?

We have enough propaganda without this clown reposting it.

I am just posting what the Russians say why this is happening. When did I say that I agreed with it ?