Ukraine war mega thread

[YourDaddy]

Just for the record, Putin should be assassinated.

[OhOh]

The safety of a country and its people which you, OhOh and Socal have been laughing off is what is at stake.

Care to indicate my laughing? If not you are lying yourself.

no one else who shares the blame for this

You are unaware of verbal and written promises to Russia, it seems.

Russian people are so suppressed that they won't speak out on this outrage

Only in Russia, you are delusional.

so quick to decry the system that has provided you the means of a comfortable life

Nobody oor system provided my comfortable lifestyle. I worked and continue to work for my comfortable lifestyle

there are other mean you idiot.

Retaining their current industrial base. xxx for energy as opposed to 5xxx. We shall see. German industry is already investing in non-German production, development and joint operations.

Will the Europeans face the same decline as the NaGastan masses, offshoring, declining investment, greatly reduced living standards, failing health, education availability ....?

everyone is paying economically for your mates incursion and sadly in the case of the Ukrainian peoples with their lives.

"Everyone" was asked to join in discussions, they blew smoke back. The western powers and actions turned Ukraine into it's current state post Maiden.

Taiwan produces the most semiconductors in the world. Going to be tough for Russia to repair in modernize their military equipment.

They do produce many high spec chips. Whether they are the greater number/value sold, compared to less high spec chips is questionable.

Fvcking commie cvnts are gonna ruin everyone's peace and quiet!

Some indicators suggest another unexceptional country has been at war constantly, somewhere around the glob since the 18th century

interactive map and notes here

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POTUS has invaded Ukraine, 8 years ago, for the simple reason that it will remove the focus of NaGastan citizens from the economic horror show and the corruption that continues at home.

FIFY for balanceed reporting.

gibbering putin arselickers

There is a thread for TD members sexual fantasies that is available for you to take your outburst to, elsewhere.

[Backspin]

[Backspin]

Just for the record, Putin should be assassinated.

Just curious if you were in Serbia in 1999 when Nato paid a visit ?

[Backspin]

Former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter

[Troy]

^ stop dribbling...Russia hasn't bothered about Poland and it's in Nato.

[Troy]

Just curious if you were in Serbia in 1999 when Nato paid a visit

Are you suggesting it was wrong ? What alternative did you have in mind?

[bsnub]

Nope totally wrong.

You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Stop regurgitating shit, you imbecile.

[HermantheGerman]

This is real and NO COMMUNIST BS:

Wladimir Klitschko Pens Scathing Message From War Torn Ukraine: “Blood Will Mix With Tears”

Posted on 02/24/2022


“I am writing to you from Kyiv, the capital of a country at war, a country being attacked and invaded from all sides.” So former heavyweight titlist Wladimir Klitschko wrote to the public today from his homeland, a homeland which is under Europe’s biggest invasion since the Second World War. “It is not ‘the war of Ukraine,'” he continued, “it is Putin’s war. Meticulous preparations were hidden behind the fog of the last few weeks in order to set in motion a plan that had been drawn up for months.” As the world continued to reel on Thursday from Russia’s all out and continuing invasion of the Ukraine, Klitshcko made it clear just what he believes Russian President Wladimir Putin’s intentions are.
“He (Putin) makes it clear that he wants to destroy the Ukrainian state and the sovereignty of its people,” wrote Klischko. “Words are followed by missiles and tanks. Destruction and death come upon us. That’s it, blood will mix with tears.” Klitschko made it clear in his letter that he feels Putin is deranged. “He (Putin) looks at our continent through distorted glasses,” he wrote, “the glasses of a fantasized glorious past. Yet this megalomania has very real implications. The European way of life is under threat, the freedom of peoples to make their own decisions is under threat, and so is democracy.”
Klitschko, whose brother – former heavyweight great Vitali – is the mayor of Ukraine’s capital city of Kiev, went on to reach out for support. “You can do something,” he wrote, “by mobilizing and organizing huge demonstrations. Make your voice heard. Make the voice of democracy heard. Say it loud and clear that international law and democracy are under attack, that war is the greatest evil and that life is sacred. Also say that while solidarity is good, support is better. Say that the march of imperialism must be stopped now. After all, whose turn will it be after Ukraine?”
The former longtime heavyweight king went on to fault international weakness for Putin’s attack on his country. “This war against my country is not only the result of one man’s madness,” he wrote, “but also the result of years of weakness in Western democracies.” Lastly, Klitshcko called for international pressure to be applied, so that Putin’s government would no longer control Russia. “If Putin goes ahead with his plan for a change of regime in Kyiv,” he stated, “then democracies around the world must now start thinking about a change of regime in Moscow. Before it is too late.”


Wladimir Klitschko Pens Scathing Message From War Torn Ukraine: "Blood Will Mix With Tears" | BoxingInsider.com

[HermantheGerman]

I heard USA and EU didn't back the idea. The problem is that there are alternative banking systems available that are not tied to the dollar. Germany were very reluctant for other reasons but could be pushed if required.

Germany and Italy opposed it.
Fucking stupid Krauts!

[Bonecollector]

He is too much of an epic idiot to understand that. He is currently just regurgitating Russian state propaganda ad nauseum. He is a total waste of space.



For good reason. They kicked the shit out of the Soviets in the Winter War.

Hence the SISU

[bsnub]

Hence the SISU

Indeed.

[HermantheGerman]

Former German Defense Minister Kramp-Karrenbauer wrote on the morning of the Russian attack on Ukraine: "I am so angry with us because we have failed historically." Nothing had been prepared that would have really deterred Putin.

Guess Trump did have his moments when he asked that the Germans need to invest more in the military

Not ready for action: The massive weakness of the Bundeswehr in the crisis - Pledge Times

[Backspin]

^ stop dribbling...Russia hasn't bothered about Poland and it's in Nato.

Not true.

2016
ATHENS (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday warned Romania and Poland they could find themselves in the sights of Russian rockets because they are hosting elements of a U.S. missile shield that Moscow considers a threat to its security.

Putin says Romania, Poland may now be in Russia'''s cross-hairs | Reuters

[Backspin]

Are you suggesting it was wrong ? What alternative did you have in mind?

What ? Bombing civilian infrastructure for 72 days wasn't wrong ? Russia hasn't touched civilian infrastructure.

[HermantheGerman]

Just curious if you were in Serbia in 1999 when Nato paid a visit ?

Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Kosovo, and Slovenia where very glad about it and still live happily ever after.

[HermantheGerman]

Not true.

I don't have to read the rest because the dumbest poster on TD never fails to pick up his price.



and while we're at it...



goes to OhOh the communist BS artist.

[HermantheGerman]

Just for the record, Putin should be assassinated.

The sooner the better!

Klitschko made it clear in his letter that he feels Putin is deranged.

I applaude Klitschko words. Our spineless world leaders need to do say the same.





Wladimir Klitschko Pens Scathing Message From War Torn Ukraine: "Blood Will Mix With Tears" | BoxingInsider.com

[EricLives]

Prime Minister Hun Sen has urged, via ASEAN, restraint on Russia and Ukerain. I hope they are listening.

[HermantheGerman]

Care to indicate my laughing? If not you are lying yourself.
You are unaware of verbal and written promises to Russia, it seems.
.....the rest is all BS

You can stick your so called verbal and written promise up your ass. These are the facts!!!


The Community of Belarus and Russia was founded on 2 April 1996.The basis of the union was strengthened on 2 April 1997, with the signing of the "Treaty on the Union between Belarus and Russia" at which time its name was changed to the Union of Belarus and Russia. Although it consists of only Russia and Belarus, other countries are allowed to join
On 10 February 2009, Russia and Belarus implemented the first stage of joint military officer training programs designed to integrate the military structures of the countries. This military collective is called the Regional Forces Group of Belarus and Russia (RGF).

The former East European countries had a choice to either join the Russian (that everyone dislikes except a dictator name LuLu), or the EU /NATO.

Who would you have chosen?

[nidhogg]

And Russia has never had the slightest thought of threatning or causing any trouble with Finland.

Tell us you do not know history, without telling us you do not know history.

[nidhogg]

"Russian warship go f*** yourselves"

Ukrainian border guards killed after telling Russian warship off

The Ukrainians paid a heavy price for that.

[pickel]

Here's what the Finns think of Russia, Backspin.

Jokerit Helsinki, a well-known Finnish team that plays out of the Russian-based Kontinental Hockey League (KHL), are leaving the league as a result of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Jokerit leaving KHL in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine

[NamPikToot]

Germany and Italy opposed it.
Fucking stupid Krauts!

Ukraine crisis: Tough and emotional summit as EU leaders seek unity

Just before the emergency EU leaders' meeting on Ukraine started, a Brussels official told us he thought this would be one of the toughest and most emotional EU summits ever.

From what I heard went on behind closed doors, he wasn't wrong.

Russia's actions in Ukraine impact many EU members directly. It feels personal to them.

Their belief: that Vladimir Putin has his eye on much more than Ukraine - that he wants to redesign the security architecture of Europe in his favour.

Countries in central and eastern Europe which used to be behind the Iron Curtain - now EU and Nato members - feel very exposed.

Particularly the Baltic States, which border Russia. They fear the Kremlin intends to destabilise them with cyber attacks and more disinformation campaigns, aimed at their ethnic Russian communities.

On his way into Thursday night's summit, the Polish prime minister voiced deep frustration that tougher sanctions hadn't been imposed earlier on Moscow.

"Enough of this cheap talking," snapped Mateusz Morawiecki. Europe continues buying so much Russian oil and gas, he said. "And he [Vladimir Putin] is turning it into aggression, invasion. He's destabilising all of Europe."

But other EU leaders pulled in a different direction.

True, all 27 of them unanimously agreed to an unprecedented sanctions package, described by the European Council president as "massive and painful" against Russia.

The package targets more sectors of the Russian economy, including the transport and energy sectors (with a ban on exports from Europe that Russia depends on to refine its oil for sale), as well as the financial sector, and more individuals close to the Kremlin.

EU leaders also agreed to slap sanctions on Belarus, a key Putin ally.

But the sanctions, and counter-sanctions threatened by Russia, will hit European economies too.

Some more than others, making them wary.

Germany and Italy - so reliant on Russian gas supplies and business ties - urged the EU to hold back on the toughest sanctions of all for now, like limiting oil and gas imports and ejecting Russia from the Swift international payment system.

Berlin and Rome argue it's wiser to keep those "nuclear" measures, as they're known, up the EU's sleeve, in case the situation worsens in Ukraine.

Their critics accuse them of self-interest, in a time of international crisis.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60519181

[NamPikToot]

On the Beeb the UK Defence Secretary is quoting over 400 Russians killed, numerous Tanks and one Airplane taken out by Ukrainian forces.