Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by pseudolus

........Why?

Numerous reasons including but not limited to, he thinks he can renegotiate a better deal with the EU and thinks he can win a no confidence vote against the government when Doris deal gets voted down next week.

ok so he had a big lunch, big fooking deal, not like it didn't happen to any of those world leaders

Thatcher was hardly sober any given day, didn't stop her from being a mean bitch

Brexit: Japan's PM says 'wish of whole world' to avoid no-deal
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46826345

The "whole world" wants the UK to avoid a no-deal Brexit, Japan's PM has claimed, after talks with Theresa May.

Shinzo Abe pledged "total support" for the withdrawal agreement she has negotiated with the EU, which faces a crunch vote in the Commons on Tuesday.

Mrs May has been speaking to Labour MPs and union leaders in a bid to try to get her deal through the Commons, where scores of her own MPs oppose it.

It comes as Honda UK announced a six-day post Brexit shut down.

The Japanese-owned car giant said the move was to ensure it could adjust to "all possible outcomes caused by logistics and border issues".

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

ok so he had a big lunch, big fooking deal,

Its been a fukon 13 year lunch you muppet, thats how long that piss head has been supported by your country - christ alive.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Brexit: Jeremy Corbyn demands election to 'break deadlock'
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46824125

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has stepped up calls for a general election "at the earliest opportunity" to "break the deadlock" over Brexit.

In a speech, he said a new government would have a fresh mandate to negotiate a better withdrawal deal with the EU.

He told Theresa May: "If you are so confident in your deal, call that election, and let the people decide."

The Conservatives said Labour did not have a plan for Brexit and were "playing politics".

Live: MPs debate Brexit
Activists urge Corbyn to back EU referendum
May seeks support of Labour MPs for deal

Mr Corbyn has resisted growing calls from within his own party to get behind another EU referendum, insisting an election is still his top priority if Theresa May's Brexit deal is rejected by MPs next week.

The UK is set to leave the European Union on 29 March. The withdrawal agreement between the UK and EU - covering things like trade, expat citizens' rights and setting up a 20-month transition period - will only come into force if MPs back it in a vote.

Labour is set to vote against Mrs May's deal next Tuesday and if, as widely expected, it is defeated, they are expected to start moves to trigger a general election.

Asked if this would happen immediately, Mr Corbyn said Labour would "table a motion of no confidence in the government at the moment we judge it to have the best chance of success".

If a majority of MPs back a no confidence motion, the government will get 14 days to try and win another confidence vote - if it can't do that, a general election will be held.

Mr Corbyn said: "Clearly, Labour does not have enough MPs in parliament to win a confidence vote on its own. So members across the House should vote with us to break the deadlock."

You very thoughtfully forgot to mention the really important bit. As incumbent, even if she loses the confidence vote, she still gets to choose the date of the election.

April 4 is looking good. By which time, the U.K. will have automatically left the EU with no deal. Bwahahahaha

Originally Posted by Switch

You very thoughtfully forgot to mention the really important bit. As incumbent, even if she loses the confidence vote, she still gets to choose the date of the election.

April 4 is looking good. By which time, the U.K. will have automatically left the EU with no deal. Bwahahahaha

Do you have a link to that information.

I was under the impression that if a Government lost a vote of no-confidence then it had 14 days to vote again and after that Parliament is dissolved. The chances are that such conditions would force an extension of Article 50, which the EU would probably grant.

It is all hypothetical since May won't lose a vote of no-confidence. However, if her EU deal fails to get through next week she should do the decent thing and resign.

Originally Posted by Troy

Do you have a link to that information.

I was under the impression that if a Government lost a vote of no-confidence then it had 14 days to vote again and after that Parliament is dissolved. The chances are that such conditions would force an extension of Article 50, which the EU would probably grant.

It is all hypothetical since May won't lose a vote of no-confidence. However, if her EU deal fails to get through next week she should do the decent thing and resign.

It’s enshrined in the constitution. Even Bercow can’t stop her from choossing the election date, whatever the circumstances. As the incumbent, she holds the right to choose the election date. I agree that te confidence vote loss is unlikely, but it does give her the chance for revenge against Bercow and the traitors who tied her hands financially in He event of no deal.

Originally Posted by Switch

It’s enshrined in the constitution.

Are you sure about this? The last time a no-confidence vote was won was when Maggie asked for it in 1979 against the Callaghan Government. On winning, the GE was held within a month, even though the Government only had 5 months to run. What happens in the intervening period between the dissolution of Parliament and the GE? Surely if there is no confidence in the Government, it can no longer dictate when the GE is to be held.

Rather than brushing the point away with your answer, how about a reference to substantiate it.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

exactly what the EU is about - supporting those that nature would erstwhile deselect - eh Buttfly....snigger

Junckers will be gone in May, as will all UK MEPs...

Originally Posted by Troy

Are you sure about this? The last time a no-confidence vote was won was when Maggie asked for it in 1979 against the Callaghan Government. On winning, the GE was held within a month, even though the Government only had 5 months to run. What happens in the intervening period between the dissolution of Parliament and the GE? Surely if there is no confidence in the Government, it can no longer dictate when the GE is to be held.

Rather than brushing the point away with your answer, how about a reference to substantiate it.

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While it seems that the Fixed Term Parliament Act 2011 does make it harder for May to choose a date beyond March 2019, there are a number of ways that the government could push a GE into the next financial year.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...r-three-steps/

The PM has 14 days to come back to parliament with a plan B if the government loses a no confidence vote.

If her Plan B also fails, she is obliged technically to go to the crown and ask for parliament to be dissolved within 21 days.

In between those two events, she needs to resign and ask for time to elect a new leader.

The new new leader is likely to ask for a GE in April. We have already seen how traitorous the speaker and MPs have been in pursuing their own political goals, so I see no reason for a new leader to be anything other than deliberately vindictive in return.

Originally Posted by Troy

Junckers will be gone in May, ...

Troy, an unfortunate sentence......

I see that IDS's claim that not a single job will be lost due to Brexit has been answered by 5000 job losses at Jaguar, Land rover.

Another Brexiteer who may have lost some trust...

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

ok so he had a big lunch, big fooking deal, not like it didn't happen to any of those world leaders

Thatcher was hardly sober any given day, didn't stop her from being a mean bitch

Indeed, George Brown a former British Foreign Secretary was forever getting pissed, whether it be on ITV or putting his arm around Princess Margaret, and on one notable occasion he was photographed drunk and incapable in the gutter.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Indeed, George Brown a former British Foreign Secretary was forever getting pissed, whether it be on ITV or putting his arm around Princess Margaret, and on one notable occasion he was photographed drunk and incapable in the gutter.

George Brown is as irrelevant as you are. Do try to keep your spitful posts on topic old man.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

on one notable occasion he was photographed drunk and incapable in the gutter.

Prompting 'The Times' to declare 'George Brown drunk is a better man than the Prime Minister (Harold Wilson) sober'.

for a quick look at the real face of Brexiters, probably some from this very thread

jaber and Chass, which one are you? yellow vest?

Owen Jones on a fiery political week in Westminster
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-polit...in-westminster

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

for a quick look at the real face of Brexiters, probably some from this very thread

jaber and Chass, which one are you? yellow vest?

We know what Jaber and Chass look like from the 'Make Brexit Great Again!" march.

Jaber on the left in green leggings and draped in union jack, Chass up front wearing black gloves and looking unusually happy.

^ Jesus

Maybot was short only of 11 Tory MPs for the last vote, that's actually not too bad

she just need to bribe those politically, and it's a done deal

Lot of fucking bribing needed as over 420 mps now predicted to vote against her deal.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Numerous reasons including but not limited to, he thinks he can renegotiate a better deal with the EU and thinks he can win a no confidence vote against the government when Doris deal gets voted down next week.

May is an Eu Federalist. She has never been working to exit, but working with the EU to keep the UK in. Corbyn is Anti EU and would work to exit on the best possible terms. Unlike May he seems to give a shit about workers and jobs in this country so there is a chance an exit would have happened with British people at its focus as opposed to come drug cartel in NI call the DUP and the spivs in Brussels.

Secondly, the Mail and Express says he "thinks he could win a no confidence vote" because they see their job as being protecting the Tories at all costs. I've yet to hear him or any red fred issue or infer such a statement.

What will happen next week is either it will sail through, or if defeated, the Blairite tories in labour will team up with May to have a second referendum. I don't necessarily trust Corbyn but he and his elements in the party are the only group who would have and indeed could still effect an exit from the EU. However, due to the State and their lapdog media (mail, sun, guardian, times torygraph, sky, bbc, etc etc) the people who should be supporting him and joining his party are instead doffing their caps to tory cvnts or worse still, israel funded fucks like tommmmeh and UKIP in actions which until blair got rid of Subversion as a law (hardly surprising that fuck did that) would have seen those people and the israeli cvnts in the Dock!