Thread: Arab social media is full of the filth

The accounts don't speak of an egalitarian co-existence between Jews and Muslims, far from it.

Throughout, the records show that Jews were in fact subjugated and treated as second class citizens, paying protection money to their Muslim rulers for that dubious privilege, no matter what their position in that society, from servant to to Muslim appointed governor.

They had no choice, other than to submit to the Muslim formula, and co-operate with them or die.

Where, in any historical accounts is it stated otherwise?

Your ugly little Jew bashing rants are obnoxious, Sabang, but only to be expected from a tired and worn out old lefty cherry-picking through Lewis' opinions, eh.

Originally Posted by ENT

Your ugly little Jew bashing rants are obnoxious, Sabang, but only to be expected from a tired and worn out old lefty cherry-picking through Lewis' opinions, eh.

Your ugly little Muslim bashing rants are obnoxious, Ent, but only to be expected from a tired and worn out old wingnut cherry-picking through Lewis' opinions, eh.

Wazamata boy, didn't you read the article?

Originally Posted by ENT

The accounts don't speak of an egalitarian co-existence between Jews and Muslims, far from it.

The academic treatise (written by a Jewish academic, incidentally) clearly states that the degree of freedom from violence and persecution, legal rights, the right to trade and make ones own living ones own way, and the general degree of co-existence and harmony enjoyed by Jews in the Muslim world, far far exceeded that of the Ashkenazi Jews in the Christian world- specifically Europe. There can be no denying this fact- and it is a Fact. So much for the bigoted 'Revisionists'.

The Princeton academic treatise, written by a Jewish Professor, concludes :-

The Arabic language gave Jews entrance to the corridors of Muslim power and made possible the remarkable careers of such luminaries as Samuel ha-Nagid ibn Naghrela in the eleventh century, head of the Jewish community, poet, Talmudist, and vizier of Granada (the father of the Jewish vizier assassinated in 1066), as well as scores of other Jewish denizens of Islamic courts, many of whom occupy pages in Islamic chronicles. Other dignitaries, as well as merchants, less well known because they did not leave books behind, but whose quotidian lives are described in minute detail in the documents of the Cairo Geniza, are no less important as Jewish exemplars of the Jewish-Muslim coexistence that reigned for several centuries during the Islamic high Middle Ages. For such illustrious figures in the Jewish elite, those centuries were indeed a Golden Age.

Of course, there are those who would prefer to take the word of an aged, uneducated bigot over this entirely credible academic source, but they are hardly worthy of serious discourse- except within their own right wing bigotry and the blogs that nourish their ignorance and malcontent.

nothing worse than the sycophantic love ins between a bunch of deluded whitey mussie apologists.

Yeh that's right tax- don't let a bit of actual, academically verified history interfere with your obsession.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by ENT

The accounts don't speak of an egalitarian co-existence between Jews and Muslims, far from it.

The academic treatise (written by a Jewish academic, incidentally) clearly states that the degree of freedom from violence and persecution, legal rights, the right to trade and make ones own living ones own way, and the general degree of co-existence and harmony enjoyed by Jews in the Muslim world, far far exceeded that of the Ashkenazi Jews in the Christian world- specifically Europe. There can be no denying this fact- and it is a Fact. So much for the bigoted 'Revisionists'.

The Princeton academic treatise, written by a Jewish Professor, concludes :-

The Arabic language gave Jews entrance to the corridors of Muslim power and made possible the remarkable careers of such luminaries as Samuel ha-Nagid ibn Naghrela in the eleventh century, head of the Jewish community, poet, Talmudist, and vizier of Granada (the father of the Jewish vizier assassinated in 1066), as well as scores of other Jewish denizens of Islamic courts, many of whom occupy pages in Islamic chronicles. Other dignitaries, as well as merchants, less well known because they did not leave books behind, but whose quotidian lives are described in minute detail in the documents of the Cairo Geniza, are no less important as Jewish exemplars of the Jewish-Muslim coexistence that reigned for several centuries during the Islamic high Middle Ages. For such illustrious figures in the Jewish elite, those centuries were indeed a Golden Age.

Of course, there are those who would prefer to take the word of an aged, uneducated bigot over this entirely credible academic source, but they are hardly worthy of serious discourse- except within their own right wing bigotry and the blogs that nourish their ignorance and malcontent.

^ Waffle waffle waffle......


As I pointed out, no egalitarian society ever existed under Islam, no matter what benefits the dhimmi accrued under Muslim rule, anywhere, as under Islam ALL non-Muslims paid protection money (jizya) or die.

Just because Jews were persecuted in Xtian and other lands doesn't prove anything other than that anti-Jewish bigots like yourself can exist anywhere.

Deflecting attention from Muslim atrocities against Jews and Xtians or any non-Muslims for that matter, proves nothing other than your inability to provide evidence to support claims of any kind of egalitarian rule under Islam.

Originally Posted by ENT

Wazamata boy, didn't you read the article?

Woops...gave you a green in return for your red. My mistake.

So, you can hand it out, but you can't take it "dipshit".

You're a disgrace. You have deluded ideas, and when the folly of your thoughts is pointed out to you, you go off on wild tangents, illogical rants, and personal abuse.

And all this regarding how evil the Arabs are to justify the pure evil of the Zionists theft of Palestine.

Originally Posted by taxexile

arabs, 5% of the worlds population, 90% of the worlds refugees and 95% of the worlds terrorists.

they are the planets sullen teenagers, miserable incompetents, always looking for fight, standing on streetcorners harrassing anyone and everyone, even their own brothers and especially their own sisters.

thats all the "academically verified history" you or anyone else needs to know.

they are trouble, and should be confined on pain of death within their own dystopian asylums for the sake of the rest of us.

100% agreed.

Until Muslims pull their necks in, stop harassing non-Muslims, and finally cease their power mad triumphalism, there will always be conflict between Islam and the rest of the world, which is precisely what Muslims want.

Taking into account that the average IQ of Muslims is among the lowest in the world, and that situation being a result of and perpetuated by their ignorant practice of inbreeding, it's going to take hundreds of years before Muslims will even be able to recognize their unhealthy mentally, physical emotional, social and political condition and its problems, let alone save themselves from a perpetual Islamic nightmare and its consequences, which, through ignoring the need for change, can only be the same as it ever was.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

Wazamata boy, didn't you read the article?

Woops...gave you a green in return for your red. My mistake.

So, you can hand it out, but you can't take it "dipshit".

You're a disgrace. You have deluded ideas, and when the folly of your thoughts is pointed out to you, you go off on wild tangents, illogical rants, and personal abuse.

Fwk up ya third world mud crab.....grow a brain, and take a page from your own book.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

And all this regarding how evil the Arabs are to justify the pure evil of the Zionists theft of Palestine.

More childish lefty anti-Jew jingoism.

Can't you come up with something original?

Originally Posted by taxexile

arabs, 5% of the worlds population, 90% of the worlds refugees and 95% of the worlds terrorists.

A correction there tax;

"Horrifyingly, although home to only 5% of the world’s population, in 2014 the Arab world accounted for 45% of the world’s terrorism, 68% of its battle-related deaths, 47% of its internally displaced and 58% of its refugees. ."

Another Arab awakening is looming, warns a UN report | The Economist

is that " the arab world " or " the muslim world" ?

Just the Arab world. The Muslim world adds to those figures, as can be seen by the numbers of Muslim "refugees" and jihadists on the loose kicking up an antisocial fuss anywhere they land.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

Wazamata boy, didn't you read the article?

Woops...gave you a green in return for your red. My mistake.

So, you can hand it out, but you can't take it "dipshit".

You're a disgrace. You have deluded ideas, and when the folly of your thoughts is pointed out to you, you go off on wild tangents, illogical rants, and personal abuse.

Arab social media is... 01-12-2016 10:47 AM Maanaam Deluded fool. Hand it out but can't take, eh?

So who's deluded?

PS. Thanks for the green..

I can't see why some people claim I did not read or understand my posting

The price the Jews had to pay for protection was their subordination to Muslim law and accepting the lowest social status within the framework of a peaceful Islamic order.

The facts are clear. NO religion enjoys "freedom" under Muslim law. Not NOW or centuries ago. Jews where just "easy to keep" for Muslims (not rebellious), and I would call it a one sided symbiosis.
The Renaissance of Islam ! Has anyone seen it ?

How can you expect a religion to Love or respect others when they can't even do it among themselves ? Take a very good look at this picture. Think about it !!!

Originally Posted by Maanaam

And all this regarding how evil the Arabs are to justify the pure evil of the Zionists theft of Palestine.

In the last 2000 years the Arabs have had no end of chances to 'steal' Palestine for themselves or 'share' it with the Jews who gave the desert life and and formed the only middle eastern democracy then or now. But have the Arabs ever won a war? Have they ever created anything in the desert and lived any other way but as bedouins or sheiks? What city have they ever built? Have they ever governed themselves? No, the only life the Arabs have ever wanted is one which mostly fans the fires of their hatred by blaming their plights, then and now, on their enemies. So they thank Allah for the Quran because if it weren't for the Jews the Arabs would have nobody to hate but themselves for the life they choose for themselves.

Originally Posted by ENT

So who's deluded?

As usual, you show your lack of comprehension of English.

Originally Posted by ENT

PS. Thanks for the green..

Simple pleasures for simple minds.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by Maanaam

And all this regarding how evil the Arabs are to justify the pure evil of the Zionists theft of Palestine.

In the last 2000 years the Arabs have had no end of chances to 'steal' Palestine for themselves or 'share' it with the Jews who gave the desert life and and formed the only middle eastern democracy then or now. But have the Arabs ever won a war? Have they ever created anything in the desert and lived any other way but as bedouins or sheiks? What city have they ever built? Have they ever governed themselves? No, the only life the Arabs have ever wanted is one which mostly fans the fires of their hatred by blaming their plights, then and now, on their enemies. So they thank Allah for the Quran because if it weren't for the Jews the Arabs would have nobody to hate but themselves for the life they choose for themselves.

So that gives Israelis, very few of whom can claim ancestry in the land beyond
a parent or grandparent, the right to drive out the natural inhabitants?
The troubles in Palestine have little to do with the Muslim religion and everything to do with the Jewish religion. God's Promised Land.
How the Palestinians react has little to do with their religion and everything to do with the fact that they are a people being driven out of their homes.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

So that gives Israelis, very few of whom can claim ancestry in the land beyond
a parent or grandparent, the right to drive out the natural inhabitants?

The Arabs drove themselves out as refugees in the many wars they started and lost. And the Jews have always lived in Palestine which was mostly barren and lifeless until the last century when they reclaimed the desert then offered to share the reward with their neighbors who refused and continue to refuse to build a better life for themselves.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

I can't see why some people claim I did not read or understand my posting

Because you didn't.

Originally Posted by sabang

What an utterly strange post. Where did you get that stuff?

Yes it is exaggerated but mostly correct as is your own.

Originally Posted by sabang

How exactly do you steal your own land, that you have continously occupied for over 2,000 years?

Which side are you taking? This argument can be made for both.

Originally Posted by sabang

Many. U'mm, ever heard of the Muslim conquests?

Very good. I concede that The Muslim Conquests were most definitely wars won by the Arabs. From wiki: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests)

The early Muslim conquests (Arabic: الفتوحات الإسلامية‎‎, al-Futūḥāt al-Islāmiyya) also referred to as the Arab conquests[2] and early Islamic conquests[3] began with the Islamic Prophet Muhammad in the 7th century. He established a new unified polity in the Arabian Peninsula which under the subsequent Rashidun and Umayyad Caliphates saw a century of rapid expansion.
The resulting empire stretched from the borders of China and India, across Central Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, Sicily, and the Iberian Peninsula, to the Pyrenees

That is a very impressive empire.

Originally Posted by sabang

U'mmm, the Muslim Conquests (they governed most of Spain), not to mention modern day Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, Tunisia etc etc.

These states you mention didn't or don't come near to being true democracies much less a "government of the people, by the people, for the people".