Thread: The U.K and the E.U - In or out?

Scraping the barrel? biased BBC

Scraping the barrel ? Biased BBC

By Alan | June 1, 2016 | BBC bias

The BBC is in full-on Remain life support mode as the polls indicate Leave is ahead despite all the OTT alarmist scaremongering by the Eton toffs and friends, or perhaps because of it.
We’ve already looked at the BBC’s false claims that the economy is in freefall because of EU referendum uncertainty and today we bring you yet another example…..Manufacturing has picked up and not fallen as Remain predicts but apparently even if the economy has an upward trend this is still bad news according to the BBC…

UK manufacturing sector scrapes back to growth in May

''UK manufacturing activity rose slightly in May, raising concerns over the economy’s strength in the run-up to the 23 June European Union referendum.''

I’m sorry, what? Manufacturing activity rose and that is a cause for concern…due to the referendum?
Hang on, the BBC continues…

“The headline PMI index recovered from its three-year low in April, ticking up from an upwardly revised 49.4 to 50.1 in May, above the consensus expectation of 49.6,” she said.
Ms Miller said this was still far below the average since the economic recovery picked up at the start of 2013. However, she thought the situation would “improve for UK manufacturers later this year”.
Overall new orders rose in May.

So manufacturing rose above expectations and there were new orders in May….what’s the problem?
Seems like the BBC is making it up as it goes along….just feeding us Remain campaign propaganda. The US economy is showing exactly the same trends as ours and they are not having an EU referendum, manufacturing in the UK rose in May when it should have been plummeting fast if Remain are to be believed and the BBC paints a gloomy picture blaming it all on the referendum.
The BBC is a shameless propagandist for Remain and is treating its audience with contempt…contempt for their intelligence and contempt for their views and right to have impartial information…but what’s new?

Originally Posted by longway

^ if we leave have nothing to lose but their sneering superior attitudes. And of course we will incur the wrath of God who will destroy the world in retaliation

It appears God has turned his wrath on France and Germany for daring to challenge the British...

Europe floods: Natural disaster to be declared in France

Heavy rains across Europe have left at least 10 people dead, most of them in Germany.

Belgium has also seen heavy rainfall and has reported flooding in many areas, including around Antwerp, Limburg and Liege.

Europe floods: Natural disaster to be declared in France - BBC News

All quiet in Bavaria after my outburst yesterday...it would appear they are more than a little concerned that a smaller version of Brexit may well occur before the summer ends...

...I think they need to suffer a little longer.

Meanwhile, time to get that Brexit machine going big time Boris. Forget the silly stuff and come up with a master plan with the UK pulling out of the EU completely. It may cost a little more in the short term, but explain why and the long term benefits.

Let the EU sink under the low pressure they are currently suffering from (pun intended)

^ After being rattled by the threat of withholding the chocolate digestives should we vote leave, it looks like peoples' nerves are steadying and a brexit may actually be a possibility.

REUTERS: British voters are evenly split between “Remain” and “Leave” ahead of a June 23 referendum on whether to remain in the European Union, according to the latest online opinion poll from YouGov for The Times newspaper.

The poll of 1,735 people, conducted on May 30-31, found that both camps were level on 41 percent, with 13 percent undecided and 4 percent not intending to vote.

The results were identical to YouGov’s previous survey for The Times, which was conducted on May 23-24.]

Latest Brexit Poll Tracker - Breitbart

Of course the shenanigans our overlords will indulge in to nullify or cheat their way out of any possibility of brexit is anyone's guess.

Corbyn needs to let his voice be heard louder instead of dodging off on holidays.

Originally Posted by longway

13 percent undecided

The folks who will swing the vote yea or nay. No matter what the pro or con advocates present in support of their position, the 41%ers minds will not be changed.

The majority of undecided are under 30. If they come out and vote, looks BREXIT will fail.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Corbyn needs to let his voice be heard louder instead of dodging off on holidays.

I agree .as him talking would help the leave side

I fear these pollsters are not being told the truth.and people are ashamed to say they want to stay in the EU.
A bit like teenagers who wouldn't openly admit that they are shit scared to leave home and prefer their parents house to striving out on their own in the world outside.

Getting fed up hearing 'I think this will happen ,,, think that will happen'.
No cnut knows what's going to happen in or out.
To think these guys are at the top of their game beggars belief.

Nobody fecking knows and imagination rules. Fecking fairyland.

Nothing but confusion to vote on.

Rant over.

Mr Angry.

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Getting fed up hearing 'I think this will happen ,,, think that will happen'.
No cnut knows what's going to happen in or out.
To think these guys are at the top of their game beggars belief.

Nobody fecking knows and imagination rules. Fecking fairyland.

Nothing but confusion to vote on.

Rant over.

Mr Angry.

Its all guesswork Billy ,no one knows and even then whatever happens it will take a couple of years at least before we know the score , thats if we come out .

Originally Posted by blue

A bit like teenagers who wouldn't openly admit that they are shit scared to leave home and prefer their parents house to striving out on their own in the world outside.

As Mr Norton indicated in an earlier post 'better the devil you know than the devil you don't'. Well that's how I interpretative it.

Will the £/Baht rate be better or worse after the vote? Why hasn't anybody asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Will the £/Baht rate be better or worse after the vote? Why hasn't anybody asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer?

It will be worse if there is a vote to leave and it will be better if we remain in the EEC. Unquestionably we should leave but, purely for selfish reasons, I shall be voting to remain so as to have a better exchange rate when I move to Thailand.

When I leave the UK I will not care about the UK as long as it sends me my pension every month. The regulations relating to pensions are going to change significantly soon and I may have the option of selling my annuities and cutting still more ties with the UK.

Europe has helped to ruin the UK and it is in part responsible for me seeking to leave.

Most I ask say leave but I recon they will find a way to fiddle the thing to make us stay.

If we do go , they will all want out.


Basket case the lot of it.

Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore

Most I ask say leave but I recon they will find a way to fiddle the thing to make us stay. If we do go , they will all want out. Basket case the lot of it.

I posted the same as this earlier. When we first had a referendum back in '72/'73 I knew of nobody that wanted to join. But join was the claimed decision. In those 40 odd years I still know of no one that voted in favour.

^ Possibly because the referendum was in 1975?
I knew many that were in favour and many that were against. My Father was an Enoch Powell supporter and was vehemently opposed to the UK entry into the Common Market, and he still is.

Having lived in Europe for much of the 60's, I was of the opinion that the real reason was the moving of SHAPE from Fontainebleau to Mons due to CdG. Dad never forgave the frogs for that and the humiliation that was put upon HM when the UK was refused membership earlier.

The EU vote allocation based on population? Was that initially to stop Germany having too much of a say but came back to haunt them when the wall collapsed with population increase.

It should be on an economy based quota rather than population so that those paying into the club get to speak the loudest.

The other EU countries are dreading the possibility of Brexit. Germany is scared shitless that the UK will leave. No-one dare speak up in case it used against them...and it will be.

New German laws being introduced next year will force many EU professionals out of their Country, to be replaced with uneducated migrants that will sink German industry to the level of Volkswagon within fives years...ie untouchables!

Boris has spotted a winner but is failing to run with it in the way of a true leader. He needs to ignore any worries and show the way. I'm sure the majority would run with him if the path was suitably lit.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore

Most I ask say leave but I recon they will find a way to fiddle the thing to make us stay. If we do go , they will all want out. Basket case the lot of it.

I posted the same as this earlier. When we first had a referendum back in '72/'73 I knew of nobody that wanted to join. But join was the claimed decision. In those 40 odd years I still know of no one that voted in favour.

What referendum in 72/73?

Yeah and you fuck off too you big mouthed kunt .

Originally Posted by DrB0b

What referendum in 72/73?

Sorry I got me dates mixed up. I think it was '75. Thanks for pointing out my error.

are you guys out yet ? don't forget to vote yes for the exit, everyone in europe is waiting for you brits to fuck off for good

and don't come back crying you want in after you become miserable again

Thanks for those kind words Butterfly.

I was having a quick read of the weeks goings-on in the UK and came across this snippet:

The intervention on immigration, which comes a day after Johnson and Gove claimed that they would use money clawed back from the EU to cut VAT on fuel bills, appears to be an attempt to offer voters the idea of an alternative Tory government after the 23 June referendum.

Migrants must have good English in post-Brexit UK, says leave campaign | Politics | The Guardian

Since VAT is an EU tax, introduced in the UK when joining the Common Market, I would have expected the Leave campaign to jump on this and vow to remove it completely. However, since it is such a large source of Government Income, that is unlikely. Perhaps a more open accounting policy with a breakdown of where the tax is being used, now that it is not for EU purposes, would be forthcoming?

If the referendum on the 23rd was for the UK to join the EU, looking at the treatment of Greece, the very high youth unemployment in the EU, workers unrest in France, Germany wanting a weak euro to keep its exports cheap.
I would be voting to stay out.

Originally Posted by Bower

If the referendum on the 23rd was for the UK to join the EU, looking at the treatment of Greece, the very high youth unemployment in the EU, workers unrest in France, Germany wanting a weak euro to keep its exports cheap.
I would be voting to stay out.

Yeah good call Bower ,you mention Greece , but is Spain any better ?