Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by OhOh

Assad, the democratically elected leader

Yeah. About that...

Bashar al-Assad wins re-election in Syria as uprising against him rages on | World news | The Guardian

The opposition and its western allies, including the United States, have denounced the election as a farce

The European Union joined the US in condemning the election, saying in a statement that "it cannot be considered as a genuinely democratic vote."

He probably thinks this bloke is democratically elected as well....

Originally Posted by OhOh

How many of the EU "leaders" have been elected by the countries population?

In short, EU "leaders" are not democratically elected. US and UK and AUS leaders are.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The opposition and its western allies, including the United States, have denounced the election as a farce The European Union joined the US in condemning the election,

Of course your list of unbelievers have many years of truly honest elections behind them.

You're being silly again.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

In short, EU "leaders" are not democratically elected US and UK and AUS leaders are.

If I said this once I've said it a thousand times.

The United Kingdom (UK) is part of the European Union (EU). It is not part of the Euro Zone (EZ)

The EU "leaders" are not the the individual EU countries political leaders, mainly unelected. Try and look at who makes political, financial ...... policy for the EU, that HAS to be accepted by the individual member states. If you don't accept it you get "Greeced".

As for the Americans and Ozzie's, read what harry says about my post, in his post No. 754 it, applies to you.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You're being silly again.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by OhOh

How many of the EU "leaders" have been elected by the countries population?

In short, EU "leaders" are not democratically elected. US and UK and AUS leaders are.

EU Leaders are appointed, not elected. 90% of the laws from Europe come from these fascists. The other 10% can be suggested by the elected people.

The UK has a choice of the leaders of 2 or 3 political parties that is selected by a group of seniors of a political faction party. Labour is slightly different, nut only just. The process is completely undemocratic as you can only be the PM if you are in a political party, following their rules, and most likely for the tory party, a pedofile.

The US generously allows the people of the country to select which of the two rats put forward by the parties, which are one and the same anyway both taking huge donations from the same business and individuals, especially bankers. The president then has no real power and reads his scripts, and does what ever he is told by his handlers. Being a Pedo seemed to end with the Bush family not being in office, but Jeb is on his way perhaps?

Democracy - 3 wolves and 2 sheep voting what is for supper? You might get lucky and have a vegetarian wolf one day perhaps?

The UK never was and was never meant to be a Democracy. It is a Constitutional Monarchy, and the JOB of the monarch (who is appointed) is to ensure that no laws are passed that go against the god given rights of the people of the country. Alas, the current leech took mediatization (keeping the title, money and chettles but giving away her power to protect the constitution and bill of rights), so is guilty of high treason. It has allowed thatcher, major, bliar, brown and cameron to push in laws that are diametrically opposed to Common Law which is what the country is based upon right back to Magna Carta, and for this, they also are guilty of high treason. What Cameron is actually doing is pushing the UK into Europe further, with a specific aim of switching away from the last vestiges of common law (which in a nut shell means that everything is legal unless there is a law saying it is not, and that law can not breach a god given right), and moving towards Napoleonic Law, which is that everything is illegal unless the power that be says it is legal. When this is done, he will not need to be in the EU anymore because the powers that be will have the ultimate control and power they crave so much.

ISIS, the immigrant crisis .... all artificially made by these mobsters to get you all crying and panicking, and being shepherded in the direction that Cameron wants you all to go.... complete lock down under Napoleonic law.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

90% of the laws from Europe come from these fascists

Glad we agree. Tell you what. I'll support your Russia if she breaks down EU. Because EU is clear and present danger to world stability within next 15 years.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Democracy - 3 wolves and 2 sheep voting what is for supper? You might get lucky and have a vegetarian wolf one day perhaps?

Way of the world, better have a gun?

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Glad we agree. Tell you what. I'll support your Russia if she breaks down EU. Because EU is clear and present danger to world stability within next 15 years.

Its not my Russia.

Can you not see the pattern? Its all part of the same plan. Soviet union - Red China - The wall coming down did not signify the end of communist russia, but the beginning of it spreading outwards. Have you lost track of how many people who lived under the worst of communism are now saying that the west is getting to be even more draconian. Everyone always says that communism can never work... which is right if the projected and stated direction is accurate. However, it does always work because it is all about pulling everything into a central group of owners, who set the laws, who lives and dies, whilst pumping out propaganda to keep the plebs happy. The same groups behind all of it.



From a Russian spy who came over the wall. We're in the LIFE section right now.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Glad we agree. Tell you what. I'll support your Russia if she breaks down EU. Because EU is clear and present danger to world stability within next 15 years.

Its not my Russia.

Can you not see the pattern? Its all part of the same plan. Soviet union - Red China - The wall coming down did not signify the end of communist russia, but the beginning of it spreading outwards. Have you lost track of how many people who lived under the worst of communism are now saying that the west is getting to be even more draconian. Everyone always says that communism can never work... which is right if the projected and stated direction is accurate. However, it does always work because it is all about pulling everything into a central group of owners, who set the laws, who lives and dies, whilst pumping out propaganda to keep the plebs happy. The same groups behind all of it.



From a Russian spy who came over the wall. We're in the LIFE section right now.

Refreshing post. I didn't know you had it in you. Kudos

I can see the pattern and I'm not the only one.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I'm not the only one

I like the "religion=diversionary claptrap" bit. Spot on.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Glad we agree. Tell you what. I'll support your Russia if she breaks down EU. Because EU is clear and present danger to world stability within next 15 years.

Its not my Russia.

Can you not see the pattern? Its all part of the same plan. Soviet union - Red China - The wall coming down did not signify the end of communist russia, but the beginning of it spreading outwards. Have you lost track of how many people who lived under the worst of communism are now saying that the west is getting to be even more draconian. Everyone always says that communism can never work... which is right if the projected and stated direction is accurate. However, it does always work because it is all about pulling everything into a central group of owners, who set the laws, who lives and dies, whilst pumping out propaganda to keep the plebs happy. The same groups behind all of it.



From a Russian spy who came over the wall. We're in the LIFE section right now.

Refreshing post. I didn't know you had it in you. Kudos

I can see the pattern and I'm not the only one.

Problem is of fools like harry and snubb projecting their conspiracy nut image onto me with all the usual crap. However, as I tire of saying, nothing could be further from the truth. Lizards? Do me a favour. However, the world is under a concerted effort to put everything into the hands of a few with all power and control, a mass slaughter to reduce numbers, and a regime that if you take the pills you will be a mindless drone, or dead. This is a conspiracy, but I reckon it is a fact, not a theory. That sheet I put up was from 1974. The wall fell 15 years later. You can look at the order of of it, and see that almost exactly as is say, events and trends happened. Almost identically in order. Some coincidence heh? Problem is we are entering the end game. The 5 year transition period to hell on earth, and all the while, idiots ignore it, cheer on their favourite flag colour, and ridecule all before them.

Also, it is not a Russian plan. The same plan has been worked in other countries and places before. Its not a push for communism, but a push for total control. Time to decide whether to live free or die a slave. They call it communism in some places, capitalism in others (strongest win...even if the dice is loaded)... all part of selling it to the dumb masses.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I'll support your Russia if she breaks down EU. Because EU is clear and present danger to world stability within next 15 years.

It's YOUR Russia, isn't it

Syria crisis: 'Deadly air raids' against IS in Palmyra

Syrian government war planes have launched one of the heaviest bombardments yet on the city of Palmyra, which is held by Islamic State (IS) militants, activists say.

About 25 air strikes left at least 26 people dead, including 12 militants, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said.

IS captured Palmyra, which includes a Unesco World Heritage site, in May.

Elsewhere, air strikes on Idlib killed 17 people, the Observatory said.

The city of Idlib is a stronghold of an alliance of jihadist and Islamist groups calling itself the Army of Conquest.

Syrian military sources quoted by Reuters have said Syria is using new types of very accurate weapons supplied by its ally, Russia.

The latest air strikes came a day after Syrian air force jets attacked Raqqa, the de facto capital of IS.

"In the past two days, the regime has intensified its air raids against areas controlled by the Islamic State group," Observatory spokesman Rami Abdel Rahman said.

Syria crisis: 'Deadly air raids' against IS in Palmyra - BBC News

The US Secretary of State John Kerry is to hold talks with Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond on the crisis in Syria during his visit to the UK.

Mr Kerry, who is on a three-day trip to the UK, is to discuss the fight against Islamic State militants.

Ahead of the meeting he said Russia and America "share the same goals" in the battle against the militant group.

John Kerry to hold talks on Syrian crisis on UK trip - BBC News

Originally Posted by Neverna

"share the same goals" in the battle against the militant group.

Except where Assad is.

4 Russian jets on Syrian soil now.

Doesn't look so straight forward now on the vote that Cameron was expecting
with Jeremy Corbyn in the mix also.

Originally Posted by billy the kid

Originally Posted by Neverna

"share the same goals" in the battle against the militant group.

Except where Assad is.

They "share the same goals" in the battle against Islamic State militants.

Mr Kerry, who is on a three-day trip to the UK, is to discuss the fight against Islamic State militants.

Ahead of the meeting he said Russia and America "share the same goals" in the battle against the militant group.

I expect that includes all of Syria. Do you think differently?

The US says the fall of Assad will resolve the situation in Syria, no coincidence that's also ISIS's goal. The US may want to control ISIS, but doesn't have any interest in annihilating them.

Originally Posted by Neverna

I expect that includes all of Syria.

same goals on isis maybe but what happens about Assad.
usa, uk want him out and are determined.
russia wants him to remain.

Originally Posted by Neverna

They "share the same goals" in the battle against Islamic State militants.

Originally Posted by Neverna

I expect that includes all of Syria. Do you think differently?

Kerry is lying.

They do not share the same goals or methods of achieving those goals.

1. They want Assad removed from head of State.
2. They want to run a military campaign in a foreign country without the countries government willing agreement,
3. They want an illegal regime change.

None of these three points have been agreed by the Syrian Government or the Russian led coalition.

It is an illegal war and an illegal carving up of a sovereign country. Which would not get UN sanction.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The same plan has been worked in other countries and places before. Its not a push for communism, but a push for total control. Time to decide whether to live free or die a slave. They call it communism in some places, capitalism in others (strongest win...even if the dice is loaded)... all part of selling it to the dumb masses.

Why don't you just top yourself pseudo, rather than posting irrational tin foil rants on obscure expat forums as if it will make a difference to your doom and gloom plan?

Originally Posted by OhOh

1. They want Assad removed from head of State.
2. They want to run a military campaign in a foreign country without the countries government willing agreement,
3. They want an illegal regime change.

1. So does most of Syria.
2. No, they want a stable country that doesn't incubate terrorists with global designs like IS.
3. The regime was already there illegally. Assad is a leader of a minority as was his father. When they tried to oppose his father, he killed 30,000. Assad Jr. easily beat that before IS became involved.

Why would you support a leaders who use lies, fixed elections, detention and murder to stay in power?

Do you think the majority Sunni population would elect a Shi'a (Awalite, which in this case means the same thing) government if there was a free and fair election?

If you do, you have absolutely no idea of what the Shi'a/Sunni divide means.

Given the death toll and the numbers of people fleeing Syria, I would think that most Syrians just want safety and the return of some 'normality' in their country. Going back to the stability of Assad's government with no IS in Syria and no civil war is better than what there is now, IMO.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Given the death toll and the numbers of people fleeing Syria

They left long ago. This is just a red herring to justify the muslim migrant hoard. These people were fine in Turkey and Lebanon. When they realized that Mama Merkel would provide them shelter, medicine and a paycheck they swarmed. They should all be repatriated to Saudi Arabia.