Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Originally Posted by Neverna

I was referring to your claim that "the US and israel want to enforce regime change upon" Paris and Brussels. Do you really believe that?

Oh right. No, of course not. I thought you were saying ISIS only attacked "land where the governments were weak due to war" so I said "what, Paris and Brussels?"

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Neverna

I was referring to your claim that "the US and israel want to enforce regime change upon" Paris and Brussels. Do you really believe that?

Oh right. No, of course not. I thought you were saying ISIS only attacked "land where the governments were weak due to war" so I said "what, Paris and Brussels?"

I see. I was referring to why they (IS/ISIL/ISIS, etc) set up in Iraq and Syria.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Neverna

I was referring to your claim that "the US and israel want to enforce regime change upon" Paris and Brussels. Do you really believe that?

Oh right. No, of course not. I thought you were saying ISIS only attacked "land where the governments were weak due to war" so I said "what, Paris and Brussels?"

I see. I was referring to why they (IS/ISIL/ISIS, etc) set up in Iraq and Syria.

Well they set up in Iraq because that's where the US were at the time, waiting for the vote to go into Syria, but when that did not happen, they put their mind to setting upp ISIS instead so that they had a reason to bomb syria. Also, the security contractors were all there as well to aid and abet them, to lead ISIS missions, or to simply dress up squads as ISIS folk and do the dirty themselves as was caught on video. They then went into Syria.

LiveLeak.com - US Apache Helicopter Safely Escorts ISIS Into Syria

US Apache guarding ISIS

it could have gone to the back, with is m320, and taking most of them out. Bosh... but no. Why would they?

Obama is to send another 250 special forces troops to Syria. There are 50 there already apparently.

The areas of control map looks like it has been updated.


Syria conflict: Obama to deploy 250 more special forces troops - BBC News

It appears that Ameristan has not yet, after a few months of the ceasefire agreement being signed and being adhered too by some "moderate" terrorist, been able to separate AQD and it's own definition a group of "moderate" terrorists. This has, as always led to, "aid" being taken by UN defined terrorists from them, weapons being "shared, Intelligence being "shared" and probably training, medical .......

The P4+1 coalition have now, after trying to discuss a solution with the Ameristani government, decided that the Ameristanis and their proxy army are now fair game. This may have some repercussions on the planned annihilation of the "bad and the Moderate" terrorists currently in the area around Aleppo.

The Russian Foreign Minister let the world know of it's decision.

M of A - Syria - Russia Rejects Kerry's New Attempts To Shield The Terrorists

"The rather harsh public response to that Kerry nonsensecame in today:

MFA Russia @mfa_russia
#Lavrov: Splitting Syria into zones of influence is a simplistic idea; the main objective must be to route terrorism @mod_russia @RussiaUN

#Lavrov: US has not fulfilled its promise made two months ago to move “good opposition forces” away from the terrorist front lines in Syria

#Lavrov: The US State Dept. may shy away from cooperation with Russia, but there is no place for shyness in the fight against terrorism

#Lavrov: The UNSC declared Jabhat al-Nusra a terrorist group. Those who want to distance themselves from this group should do so physically

Translation: Get your proxies out of the way or they will get hurt badly."

Report of the Russian Centre for reconciliation of opposing sides in the Syrian Arab Republic (April 25, 2016)

General information on the application of measures for the reconciliation of opposing sides

Within last 24 hours, truce agreement has been achieved with representatives of an inhabited locality in the Homs province.

The total number of settlements, the leaders of which had signed reconciliation agreements, has reached 72.

In the ‪#‎Damascus‬ province, ceasefire agreement with a representative of armed formations (more than 500 men) has been achieved.

The number of ceasefire application forms signed with leaders of armed groupings has reached 52.

Results of ceasefire monitoring

The ceasefire regime has been observed in most provinces of the Syrian Arab Republic. Within last 24 hours, 9 ceasefire violations have been registered (‪#‎Latakia‬ and #Damascus – 4 for each, ‪#‎Aleppo‬ – 1).

In the Latakia province, militants of Ahrar al-Sham grouping, which had claimed to belong to the opposition, carried out shelling with mortars and multiple launch rocket systems against positions of the government troops near ‪#‎Sandran‬, ‪#‎Rasha‬, ‪#‎Safar‬ and ‪#‎Shmaisa‬.

Militants of Jaysh al-Islam opposition grouping carried out mortar shelling against a military hospital in ‪#‎Harasta‬ and units of pro-government troops near ‪#‎Jaubar‬, Marj Sultan and ‪#‎Arbil‬ (Damascus).

After performing artillery shelling, militants of Ahrar al-Sham grouping took efforts to launch offensive against units of the Syrian army near Jebel Agam (to the south from Aleppo).

Having suffered losses, terrorists retreated to positions, which they had kept before.

Russian Aerospace Forces did not make strikes on opposition armed formations, which follow ceasefire regime and informed the Russian or American Centres for reconciliation about their location.

Additional information

According to information received from civilians and opposition forces, Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist grouping continues concentrating its forces in north-eastern regions of the Latakia province.

In the Idlib province, militants have shelled with mortars against Fuah for two times.

On April 24 from 1 p.m. to 1.15 p.m., Turkish artillery was shelling positions of the Syrian government troops from ‪#‎Aluichak‬. Syrian troops did not fire in response.

https://www.facebook.com/14922523243...type=3&theater

Russian Centre for reconciliation of opposing sides in the Syrian Arab Republic

Sounds like something Gen. Dictator could have come up with.

On April 24 from 1 p.m. to 1.15 p.m., Turkish artillery was shelling positions of the Syrian government troops from ‪#‎Aluichak‬. Syrian troops did not fire in response.

The red star shows Aluichak in Turkey.

'No victors, no vanquished': UN sees Assad staying, post-conflict

Date of publication: 25 April, 2016

Exclusive: Assad will continue to lead Syria in a ceremonial role, ahead of a consensus administration that would eventually see him leave office, according to a leaked UN proposal.

President Bashar al-Assad should remain in power in the immediate aftermath of Syria's war, as the Damascus government, opposition and civic society groups form a transitional authority, according to the UN envoy's peace plan, The New Arab can exclusively reveal.

Assad would, however, be stripped of authority over the military and security apparatus as the first step in a multi-stage transition designed to draw a line under the war that has killed at least 400,000 people in the past five years.

The proposal is mentioned in a draft communique from Geneva, believed to have been authored by UN envoy Staffan de Mistura as the framework for negotiations. The document has been leaked exclusively to The New Arab and its sister Arabic-language publication.

"It indicates a role for all Syrians in their future state, on the basis of equality, inclusivity, with mechanisms for respect for human rights and dignity, and the right to fully participate in political processes," the document reads.

The proposal fundamentally rejects the partition of Syria, and stresses the importance of reforming state institutions - such as the Supreme Court and wider judiciary - to become fully independent of the government.

And unlike in Iraq, where the civil service was eviscerated in a purge of Saddam supporters - leading to a breakdown in institutional knowledge and overall bureaucratic functioning - there will be no de-Baathification process in Syria, allowing government departments to continue operating without major societal upheaval.

De Mistura calls for: "A non-sectarian, pluralistic, democratic and multi-party state based on respect for rule of law and human rights, inclusivity, citizenship, co-existence, respect for dignity and diversity, non-discrimination, equal rights of men and women, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of peaceful assembly and equal opportunity."

Reform of government institutions should be limited to achieving those goals, he writes.

The Transitional Government Body shall comprise 40 percent government members, 40 percent from the opposition, and 20 percent from civil society groups.

At least a third of each are to be women, the UN envoy suggests.

The method for selecting members of each delegation within the TGB remains unclear, but a list of 120 current officials are to be banned from holding office due to their roles in the war.

It is thought that opposition negotiators will also insist specific people on the list are banned from leadership positions in the Baath party itself.

Ambiguity also reigns over the confidence-building measures proposed by De Mistura. The proposal calls for an end to all proscribed attacks during negotiations - so no barrel bombs, chemical attacks or "acts of terrorism".

As the Assad government has used the term "terrorism" to describe practically all opposition, it is likely the opposition negotiating team will be seeking further legal advice to clarify the use of the word, so as to avoid stalling by Assad's negotiators.

The UN plan seeks eventually to hold legislative and presidential elections - under the watchful eye of the UN, and with its funding.

"This will inaugurate the beginning of a new peaceful era for Syria," the proposal concludes.

'No victors, no vanquished': UN sees Assad staying, post-conflict

Press release on Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov?s telephone conversation with US Secretary of State John Kerry - News - The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation

25 April 201617:26
Press release on Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s telephone conversation with US Secretary of State John Kerry



On April 25, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov spoke over the telephone with US Secretary of State John Kerry at the American side’s initiative.

The foreign ministers continued considering the ways for Russia and the United States to cooperate in the interests of maintaining and consolidating the ceasefire in Syria, providing humanitarian aid to its population, and starting a stable process of political settlement.

They confirmed their full support for the talks between the country’s Government and its opponents on determining the future structure of the state that are taking place in Geneva under the auspices of the UN. Sergey Lavrov stressed the need for a speedy withdrawal of the moderate opposition’s forces from the territories controlled by the ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra terrorist groups and for blocking the channels for bringing reinforcements to the extremists.

The officials agreed to continue cooperation within the framework of the International Syria Support Group.

They also addressed other international issues, including settlement in the Middle East and topical issues of bilateral relations.

Lavrov will know of course that Kerry is a psychopathic liar so this would be reflected in his narrative.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

LiveLeak.com - US Apache Helicopter Safely Escorts ISIS Into Syria

US Apache guarding ISIS

it could have gone to the back, with is m320, and taking most of them out. Bosh... but no. Why would they?

What the fuck is that all about?

A convoy of "ISIS" trucks with an Apache Gunship hovering next to them. Unless ISIS have gun ships, which they might when the US make the next delivery, then that gunship was not doing what obomba would have us believe.... aka blowing them the fuck up. Even it's cannon could have destroyed most of that convoy.

Also, why were the ISIS boys not shooting at the gunship? Yankie helicopter nexxt to them? Surely they would be shooting at it, but no, they carry on.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by pseudolus

LiveLeak.com - US Apache Helicopter Safely Escorts ISIS Into Syria

US Apache guarding ISIS

it could have gone to the back, with is m320, and taking most of them out. Bosh... but no. Why would they?

What the fuck is that all about?

It was in the winter, snowing and they were all wearing white.


Which is a euphemism for more pseudopuss bullshit.

WTF fuck is cluueless harrytwat on about now? It is a cavalcade of ISIS toyotas, with mounted american machine guns on the back, with an apache gun ship protecting them

What's your problem harrytwaat - eyes fuucking painted on or something? What a twat .

Originally Posted by pseudolus

WTF fuck is cluueless harrytwat on about now? It is a cavalcade of ISIS toyotas, with mounted american machine guns on the back, with an apache gun ship protecting them

What's your problem harrytwaat - eyes fuucking painted on or something? What a twat .

Well it's a big fat empty white square where I'm looking.

But even if it isn't, unless they have their ISIS T-Shirts on you're just talking shit aren't you.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by pseudolus

WTF fuck is cluueless harrytwat on about now? It is a cavalcade of ISIS toyotas, with mounted american machine guns on the back, with an apache gun ship protecting them

What's your problem harrytwaat - eyes fuucking painted on or something? What a twat .

Well it's a big fat empty white square where I'm looking.

But even if it isn't, unless they have their ISIS T-Shirts on you're just talking shit aren't you.

click on the link IT boy. not that tough?

Post a fucking youtube link the first time then knobhead.

And where are their ISIS t-shirts?

You fucking cock, not a black flag to be seen, that's an Iraqi Russian-made helicopter escorting a militia convoy.

You're an idiot.

Added: Or it could be a Syrian one, like this one getting fucked up by the FSA.

You people created this whole mess -

Coming back to bite ya in the arse.

Blowback.

Apparently the LORD is already signing contracts for the redevelopment of Syria, always the optimist eh.

https://www.rt.com/business/340942-s...oration-works/


"Damascus and Moscow have signed nearly a billion dollars worth of agreements to rebuild war-torn Syria, according to the Prime Minister Wael al-Halqi. The two countries intend to develop energy, trade, finance and other sectors of the economy.


"The Russian side has responded to the idea of restoring [Syrian] infrastructure. Therefore, a lot of deals were signed, including $675 million and $280 million agreements," said the Syrian prime minister.




Damascus wants Russia to develop Syrian oil


According to al-Halqi, more than 60 percent of the power stations in Syria are shut down and need fuel to restart.
“Despite all the things Syria has undergone, it has managed to maintain the infrastructure. However, the production of electricity depends on fuel, and the oil sector has been more affected by terrorism than the electricity sector," said the prime minister.

Syria has offered Russia a chance to participate in exploring and developing oil and gas on land and offshore. In particular, Russia was invited to upgrade the Baniyas refinery and construct a refinery with Iran and Venezuela.
Damascus is also ready to discuss payment in national currencies with Russia. At the moment, Syria is negotiating a free trade zone with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, if the treaty is signed and trade reaches a certain level, Damascus will then begin to pay in local currency."


Exploration, infrastructure ..... and, probably, all payable through the new trade agreement, in Roubles.


Call out the colour revolutionaries in soviet Washington DC.