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    I lived in Kalamazoo for 3 years in the late 90's. It is, indeed, a very pleasant place. Whilst I was there I heard no gun shots, or heard of any gun crime. The only guns I ever saw were the occasional hunting rifle or holstered handguns carried by the police. The family never felt anything but safe...

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    going to be a busy year.

    You girls will have to keep up.

    1749 dead by gun already for 2016.

    I'd say someone here is falling behind.

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    Come on then, you need usa gun deaths, well here ya go...

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    Ummmm juicy, so many dead....blood on the streets.


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    Stop drinking your own piss, earl

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    and throwing your toys out the pram

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Stop drinking your own piss, earl
    I'm so sorry Rocky, the topic here is 'Americans Getting Shot', not ancient holistic medicine.

    What no comment about 1749 people being shot, this year already!

    Oh right, no pictures, well you can imagine pictures of 1749 faces can't you, some of then innocent children.


    Maybe just maybe there is a bit more going on here than simply a problem with firearms.

    I wonder if that ever occurs to the knee-jerk gun-ban libtard?

    Thoughtful inquiry anyone?

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    Yeah, right!
    Guns don't kill people. Bullets do!


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    Quote Originally Posted by grasshopper View Post
    Yeah, right!
    Guns don't kill people. Bullets do!
    Sydney... the place where they banned glass beer mugs...
    Because some Australians can have a few drinks without glassing someone.
    It's the glass beer mug's fault of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Maybe just maybe there is a bit more going on here than simply a problem with firearms.

    Well why don't you explain it to us just once, without the hysteria or hyperbole.
    Try not to involve lethal objects that have a non-lethal primary purpose, such as cars, beer glasses, hammers, kitchen knives etc, that argument only indicates a lack of perspective or willingness to engage in an intelligent conversation.

    So... what else is going on in the US, apart from the gun culture, the millions of readily available weapons, and its polarized society that we just don't understand Earl.?

    Last edited by Neo; 22-02-2016 at 04:52 PM.
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    I'll make it really simple for you Neo; just one word, even you can understand one word. If you don't then you can look it up.
    So here ya go, are you ready?

    Violence

    Now, if you have a problem understanding that word, well, sorry I can't help ya.
    Remedial English perhaps!

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    Are you trying to say that America's some kind of corrupt, dysfunctional but rich banana republic.... hence the banana republic homicide rates?

    because there is violence in every western country and they don't mange to get your homicide rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Are you trying to say that America's some kind of corrupt, dysfunctional but rich banana republic.... hence the banana republic homicide rates?

    because there is violence in every western country and they don't mange to get your homicide rates.
    Sorry man this thread is about Americans Getting Shot. Not the homicides rates comparisons of the UK, OZ or some banana republic.

    The USA is indeed very violent, does anyone actually stop and ask why?
    Sure it's easy to point at firearms and access blame.

    But does a firearm really cause violence?
    How is that possible exactly?
    Does the firearm have some magical communication with the people and order the trigger to be pulled?

    Seems to me the anti gun nuts here believe in magic and fail to understand violence.

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    given that about 65%+ homicides are carried out by guns, your spliting hairs to distract yourself from thinking about it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    I'll make it really simple for you Neo; just one word, even you can understand one word. If you don't then you can look it up.
    So here ya go, are you ready?

    Violence

    Now, if you have a problem understanding that word, well, sorry I can't help ya.
    Remedial English perhaps!
    Violence is a symptom not a cause you fucking nugget

    So... the US can keep the gun culture, the millions of readily available weapons and the polarised society, all you have to do is remove the violence and it will be ok.. like full flavor USA.. but nice and peaceful like.

    Break out the Soma, Earl's on to something.!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Seems to me the anti gun nuts here fail to understand violence.

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    Careful or earl will post yet another 100-line quote on something/anything and/or post dozens of photos of scantily-clad bikers again and go on a diatribe of how green house gasses are destroying the internal combustion engine, which in itself is the devil's spawn . . . as he fumes at the term 'gay jewish biker' being a racist condemnation of the Ruanda violence.

    Eh? Violence?

    There you have it. Everything boils down to violence, which can be remedied, according to earl, by soaking three boxes of Kellogg's Special K in battery acid for three days while dancing counter-clockwise during a full moon and listening to Slade backwards.

    earl may yet be onto something

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    Remedial English! Or is it Magic?

    Apparently the English language has been degraded to the point where words no longer have any meaning.

    Guns magically kill people.
    Glass beer mugs magically glass people.


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    It's your brain that's degraded Earl

    You love guns, you love shooting things, you think its gay not to love these things.
    For you there is no logical debate to be had, its like asking you to stop wanking.

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    Violence

    Neo, it is simple English, not magic.

    Look it up, I'm sure many essays were written on the subject, even books.
    I presume you can read books and essays...
    Though sadly I've been wrong before.



    Neo, I'll be kind and explain it for; you put Mr Browning Hi-Power 9mm, 13 round clip + one in the chamber on the table. You can also put Mr Glock 17, 17 rounds full magazine on the table together with Mr Browning Hi-Power.

    Mr Browning and Mr Glock can sit by themselves on that table for a million, maybe two millions years and never shoot anyone, because Mr Glock and Mr Browning are not themselves inherently prone to violence.

    It takes Mr Human Being to come along and pick-up Mr Browning or Mr Glock to make violence happen.

    It's pretty fucking simple Neo! Even you should understand.

    Meanwhile Neo, times a wasting, more Americans are getting shot, and not by magic.


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    quiet right not shot by magic... by violent people with guns. And when America is compared with its alleged peers, (rather than corrupt dysfunctional banana republics)... the only difference is the word gun.... because we all have problems with violent people and their violence... we just don't arm them with guns.

    you really are on the far left of the bell curve arn't you
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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post

    you really are on the far left of the bell curve arn't you
    I suppose you should take into consideration most of the firearm related homicide in the USA occurs in large urban settings among the ethnic minorities.
    Part of the drug gang war, decriminalize the drugs and the gang wars would dissipate.
    Treat drug addiction as health issue, not a criminal one, and crime goes down.
    Take a look a Portugal if you don't believe me.
    It ain't rocket science!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Violence

    Neo, it is simple English, not magic.

    Look it up, I'm sure many essays were written on the subject, even books.
    I presume you can read books and essays...
    Though sadly I've been wrong before.



    Neo, I'll be kind and explain it for; you put Mr Browning Hi-Power 9mm, 13 round clip + one in the chamber on the table. You can also put Mr Glock 17, 17 rounds full magazine on the table together with Mr Browning Hi-Power.

    Mr Browning and Mr Glock can sit by themselves on that table for a million, maybe two millions years and never shoot anyone, because Mr Glock and Mr Browning are not themselves inherently prone to violence.

    It takes Mr Human Being to come along and pick-up Mr Browning or Mr Glock to make violence happen.

    It's pretty fucking simple Neo! Even you should understand.

    Meanwhile Neo, times a wasting, more Americans are getting shot, and not by magic.

    You're full of shit what ever way you try to pretty it up.
    Sounds like a fucking creationist gun nut wrote a Janet and John story.

    Chicken, egg... chicken and fucking egg Earl.

    Mr Browning and Mr Glock are man made objects which have only one purpose.
    They could not sit on a table for 2 million years, because they need a human to make them. Man didn't make them to sit on a table like a a vase or a spoon, man made them for their one and only primary purpose, to inflict violence on others. Violence is a symptom not a cause Earl. And you are talking right out of your arse yet again.

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    I point you at the murder suicide in Thailand the other day.

    Do you think if the woman had not turned up with a gun it would have ended the same?

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    The problem is that when a coward gets a gun in his or her hands it makes them into some sort of a hero. Someone who would not otherwise have the balls to kill can now do so from a distance, they dont even have to get close to their victim, dont even have to see the blood if they dont want to, dont even have to know the victim and hay they might even get away with it as they can shoot from hiding.

    Take away the gun and they revert to a coward, doesnt apply to all but the short of it is that guns give the opportunity to put violent thoughts into action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Violence is a symptom not a cause Earl.
    Correct, and the firearm is not the cause. Blaming firearms for violence is ludicrous.
    Doing so means you aren't really addressing the problem, of what is causing the culture of violent behavior.

    Where is most of the firearms homicide concurring? And why?
    Those are the questions you should be asking.

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