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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    a registered gun the owner must pass a practical and written test and obtain a license
    Come on mate these are yanks,reading and writing

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    Australian = American in training

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
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    ^ Define your opinion of "high profile people"
    Doesn't matter, the point is would the hat like to see all guns gone or are some people more valuable and deserve protection of gun carrying body guards.
    Yes, they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
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    ^ Define your opinion of "high profile people"
    Doesn't matter, the point is would the hat like to see all guns gone or are some people more valuable and deserve protection of gun carrying body guards.
    Yes, they are.
    And why are some lives more valuable than others and deserve armed protection and others do not?

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    They aren't more valuable...it is just that anyone that is in the public eye is vulnerable to nutters. It is one of the downsides to having a public profile.

    Why does Mrs nobody need a gun in her handbag when she pops to the shops?

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    don't be silly. don't you realise that all brown skinned connivance store workers are under cover muslim radicals just waiting for the instruction to kill kill kill.

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    ^ Where did you get the stuff that rpeters has been inhaling since birth?


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    Boy, 3, fatally shoots himself with father's gun in US convenience store

    South Carolina: The three-year-old was sitting on a stool behind the counter near the cash register while his father, the owner of a small convenience store in North Carolina, chatted with a customer on Sunday.
    Suddenly a shot rang out, and the owner, Manal Abdelaziz, 56, turned and saw his son, also named Manal, lying on the floor.
    Three-year-old Manal, who was nicknamed Cash, had found a 9mm handgun that was kept in the store for protection, and fatally shot himself.
    "All we heard is something happening, and I look: Oh my God, my son is on the floor," Abdelaziz told a local television station, WMBF. He called 911.

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    Sad. Very, very sad . . . yet not incomprehensible at all.

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    Just another day in the good old us of a

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    Just another day in the good old us of a
    Accidents probably don't happen in the land of Oz.

    Worried about saving innocent lives? How about a moratorium on personal motor vehicles. And the free side benefits of helping out with global warming.

    We all would breathe easier!

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    The amount of logical fallacy, non sequitur, and hypocrisy in that post is frankly quite staggering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Accidents probably don't happen in the land of Oz
    Gun accidents,kids blowing their brains out can't happen here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    How about a moratorium on personal motor vehicles
    You blokes ban guns then we might think about banning cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    They aren't more valuable...it is just that anyone that is in the public eye is vulnerable to nutters. It is one of the downsides to having a public profile.

    Why does Mrs nobody need a gun in her handbag when she pops to the shops?
    How about Miss Nobody out and about at night by her self?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bobo746 View Post
    Just another day in the good old us of a
    Accidents probably don't happen in the land of Oz.

    Worried about saving innocent lives? How about a moratorium on personal motor vehicles. And the free side benefits of helping out with global warming.

    We all would breathe easier!
    That's a stupid comparison isn't it.
    I think I can safely say no 3 year old child in Oz has ever accidentally killed him/her self with a motor vehicle.

    How about guns are fitted with a lock of some kind so only the registered owner can operate them with the key in his/her pocket. (like cars)

    You don't have to ban guns. Just treat them like the cars you keep trying to compare them to.

    REGISTERED owners.
    LICENSED owner/operators.
    LOCKS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    They aren't more valuable...it is just that anyone that is in the public eye is vulnerable to nutters. It is one of the downsides to having a public profile.

    Why does Mrs nobody need a gun in her handbag when she pops to the shops?
    How about Miss Nobody out and about at night by her self?
    In Australia miss nobody is out and about by herself every night by the millions without a gun.

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    Having loaded guns within reach of children and criminal offence instead of just another accident might be an idea. Losing your licence for accidental discharge would be good as well.

    However I am all for a total ban on firearms without justified reasons for having one. Hunters licencentre and farmers licence on own land are reasonable. Special licence for vermin control and use on public land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Having loaded guns within reach of children and criminal offence instead of just another accident might be an idea. Losing your licence for accidental discharge would be good as well.

    However I am all for a total ban on firearms without justified reasons for having one. Hunters licence and farmers licence on own land are reasonable. Special licence for vermin control and use on public land.
    Absolutely.
    And immediate confiscation if found in the possession of an unlicensed person or a person other than the registered owner.
    How else will the government be able to take over the country.

    Also after a year or so the cops will be a lot less jittery and stop shooting everyone who flinches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Accidents probably don't happen in the land of Oz.
    Oh, they do . . . but we don't have many fuckwits owning guns - ergo sum = accidental gun deaths are virtually non-existent

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    How about a moratorium on personal motor vehicles
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    That's a stupid comparison isn't it.
    But it's always trottetd out without thinking that it's a really bad comparison - no gun nut would want to have the same restrictions placed on gun ownership as they do on car ownership.

    Epic earl fail yet again

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    However I am all for a total ban on firearms without justified reasons for having one. Hunters licencentre and farmers licence on own land are reasonable. Special licence for vermin control and use on public land.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    Also after a year or so the cops will be a lot less jittery and stop shooting everyone who flinches.
    Yup. Absolutely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    you keep trying to compare them to.

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    It's not a comparison, I'm talking about the loss of innocent life. Do you care?

    Or you just prefer frothing at the mouth over firearms and Americans?

    I'll repeat it just so you can be clear; loss of innocent life, do you care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    I'll repeat it just so you can be clear; loss of innocent life, do you care?
    Do you.

    This thread's about loss of life from guns in the U.S. and in relation to a story about yet another child senselessly dying you go off on some non sequitur, obfuscation, and apples cf. oranges tangent about motor vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    It's not a comparison, I'm talking about the loss of innocent life. Do you care?
    Have you bothered to read the thread title?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    I'll repeat it just so you can be clear;
    Have you bothered to read the thread title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    I'll repeat it just so you can be clear; loss of innocent life, do you care?
    Do you.
    I do and try to do something about it every day.


    I'm not some nasty little hypocrite who makes ludicrous distinctions over the value of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    I'm not some nasty little hypocrite who makes ludicrous distinctions over the value of life.
    You do, actually, by bringing the much-ridiculed cars 'argument' into a discussion about guns . . . thereby minimising deaths by gunshot.
    Why don't you care about children being blown apart by guns, earl? What do you do about it . . . equate guns to cars?

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