Thread: Democrat shutdown: viscious vindictive mean-spirited

So the right wing blogosphere (which includes Fox these days, it has sunk so low) floods the airwaves with a load of trash, to be read by those denizens that read the rw blogosphere, earnestly assuring them that the climbdown was 'not really' the teabaggers fault, that it really was a victory for the right not a humiliating rout, and that they haven't really dragged the gop right into the shitter with them, and dealt them the worst electoral blow since the GFC. Don't believe them pesky factcheckers and polls, they're libbie. Make more noise, send more emails. Have another 'million sheeple' march, heck we might even get 3,000 to turn up next time.

And of course, we all know it's complete and utter bullshit- but whats new? This strange demographic exists in an alternative reality.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

How many bills did the Republicans submit with defunding for the ACA in before they realised they weren't going to win and caved?

It ain't over yet, bud...

So I take it you're not a big fan of democracy.
You'd rather have a totalitarian state run by right wing gestapo who set their own agenda rather than bow to the will of the people?

^^
As opposed to what? Your beloved Media Matters or the HuffPo or KosFiles etc?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

They Are Actually Doing It!

Americans Sign Petition to Support “Nazi-Style Orwellian Police State”

Citing issues with how the government shutdown has impacted the ability of the police to “keep the community safe,” [the interviewer] tells San Diegans that there is a need to “increase the Orwellian system.”

“Not a problem,” responds one man as he signs the petition.

“We just want to model it after the Nazi Germany system to keep people safe and secure,” Dice tells another individual.

After signing the petition to “implement the Orwellian police state,” another man responds, “You find the pot of money though,” apparently more concerned about how much a Nazi-style police state would cost than its actual consequences.

“They’re trying to cut the budget by 20 per cent so we just want to make sure that we can model the police state after the Nazi Germany system,” Dice tells another couple who sign the petition, before adding, “Thanks for supporting the police state.”

“We’re going to model it after the Nazi Germany-style police state,” Dice clearly tells another man who signs the petition.

“We need this Orwellian-style system to keep everybody safe,” Dice tells a woman as she is signing the petition, to which she responds, “Yeah.”

See how easy these lambs are being led to slaughter? Beyond the level of LIV's or what?

That's funny as hell Booners! And of course, since, in San Diego, RethugliKKKans outnumber Democrats, chances are most of the LIV's that fell for that stunt are in fact card carrying members of the GOP

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

in San Diego, RethugliKKKans outnumber Democrats, chances are most of the LIV's that fell for that stunt are in fact card carrying members of the GOP

No doubt here.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy claimed on October 16 that Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett was "the architect of the shutdown," continuing the network's pattern of excusing Republicans of blame for the impasse. But the federal government shut down on October 1 after Republicans refused to fund the government without unrealistic policy changes to the Affordable Care Act, and reports from after the shutdown began explained how Republicans changed congressional rules to ensure federal gridlock.

^ Further proof, as if any more is needed, that FOX "news" is just the propaganda mouthpiece for the GOP.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

How many bills did the Republicans submit with defunding for the ACA in before they realised they weren't going to win and caved?

It ain't over yet, bud...

So I take it you're not a big fan of democracy.
You'd rather have a totalitarian state run by right wing gestapo who set their own agenda rather than bow to the will of the people?

Not a big fan of Socialism...

^ Yet you call yourself a Christian??

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

How many bills did the Republicans submit with defunding for the ACA in before they realised they weren't going to win and caved?

It ain't over yet, bud...

So I take it you're not a big fan of democracy.
You'd rather have a totalitarian state run by right wing gestapo who set their own agenda rather than bow to the will of the people?

Not a big fan of Socialism...

^ Yet you call yourself a Christian??

Does he? I've never heard him say any such thing.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

It ain't over yet, bud...

So I take it you're not a big fan of democracy.
You'd rather have a totalitarian state run by right wing gestapo who set their own agenda rather than bow to the will of the people?

Not a big fan of Socialism...

^ Yet you call yourself a Christian??

Does he? I've never heard him say any such thing.

You don't remember him grovelling for a bit of "Christian Charity" when he got himself banned from SC and New?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

In the spirit of Christian Charity, I do thank you for your vote of support in regard to my present situation.

and here:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Us Conservatives exhibit Christian Charity when someone falls ill as opposed to left-wing moonbats.

and here:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

That doesn't show a lot of Christian Charity on your part...

etc. etc.

The hypocrisy of the Religious Right is astounding isn't it? They are the real RINO's and are as far removed from the teachings of Jesus Christ as can be, making them CINO's, Christians in Name Only.

Here's another perfect example:

Originally Posted by Koojo

Right, so democracy is ok as long as everyone agrees with you.
If the majority want somethiong different to what you want then it's not ok.

You are so ill-informed, Koojo.

The majority of Americans are opposed to Obmacare (Adorable Care Act).

46% View Obamacare Favorably, 48% Unfavorably ... Money · 50% Oppose Health Care Law's Individual Mandate

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ealth_care_law

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...entation-looms

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Koojo

Right, so democracy is ok as long as everyone agrees with you.
If the majority want somethiong different to what you want then it's not ok.

You are so ill-informed, Koojo.

The majority of Americans are opposed to Obmacare (Adorable Care Act).

46% View Obamacare Favorably, 48% Unfavorably ... Money · 50% Oppose Health Care Law's Individual Mandate

Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™

Silly Boontard, there you go again posting links that refute your argument.

From your rasmussenreports link:

"Perceptions of the law have improved over the last three weeks as the congressional debate over the government shutdown centered over funding for it and despite the glitches experienced by the law’s new health insurance exchanges."

The other link you posted is over a month old, so completely irrelevant as the approval numbers for the Affordable Care Act have been on a steep climb ever since the RethugliKKKans shut down the Federal Government.

How about a little dose of reality:

More people who support Obamacare support it strongly. And the undecideds are starting to decide. That could be because of the reports of the massive response to Obamacare in its first week of enrollments. That could be because they or someone they know has found out they'll get a pretty good deal on their new health insurance.

Or it could all be backlash against the Republican obsession about Obamacare that has been so insane, so extreme, that it's threatening destruction of the nation's economy. Whatever is behind it, never mind. Thanks Ted Cruz & Co! You're doing a great job selling Obamacare!


Surprise! Support for Obamacare Is Up Sharply Over the Past Month

KEVIN DRUM


The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll is just an endless horror show for Republicans. Obama's approval is up; Republican Party approval is down; confidence in the economic recovery has plummeted thanks to the budget standoff; and voters blame Republicans for the government shutdown by a margin of 53-31. Virtually everyone who's not a hardcore dittohead blames the GOP. What's more, 73 percent of the public thinks the shutdown is a serious problem and 31 percent have been personally affected.
But none of that is a big surprise. Here's something that is: After a week of 24/7 media coverage about the problems with the rollout of Obamacare, its popularity has gone up. It's still not doing gangbusters or anything, but it's pretty interesting that an awful lot of people who previously had no opinion are now feeling pretty positive about it. Is this because they or someone they know has actually gone on line and discovered that there are pretty good deals available? I don't know. But something has changed their minds.

^ Thanks Tony.

Originally Posted by Koojo

You'd rather have a totalitarian state run by right wing gestapo who set their own agenda rather than bow to the will of the people?

The GOP do indeed want a dictator. They just don't want it to be that n****r. They want to wait until a white man fills The Big Chair again, preferably a republican white man. They'll be perfectly happy with giving that person all the powers of a demigod, so long as that near-deity will reshape the world in their image.

The way that things are now they can b*tch about the current president not "doing his job", while at the same time b*tch about the "overreaching power" of the Obama white house and presidency.

They do nothing but fuck things up, yet appeal to their base. Win/win.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Koojo

Right, so democracy is ok as long as everyone agrees with you.
If the majority want somethiong different to what you want then it's not ok.

You are so ill-informed, Koojo.

The majority of Americans are opposed to Obmacare (Adorable Care Act).

46% View Obamacare Favorably, 48% Unfavorably ... Money · 50% Oppose Health Care Law's Individual Mandate

Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™

Silly Boontard, there you go again posting links that refute your argument.

From your rasmussenreports link:

Heh...looks like you are misreading the numbers again -

46% View Obamacare Favorably, 48% Unfavorably

Maybe you didn't do too good with math in school but it does appear that there's a 2% edge in the unfavorable category?

Fail...

This just in:

The CNBC poll finds that 44 percent oppose eliminating funding for Obamacare, versus only 38 percent who favor it — even though 46 percent view Obamacare negatively and only 29 percent view it positively.

I wonder how many have an opinion without actually having tried it (you know, like the ones Hannity interviewed)?

Still, another 160 days or something to enrol, it's not like there's a rush.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by bsnub

Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy claimed on October 16 that Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett was "the architect of the shutdown," continuing the network's pattern of excusing Republicans of blame for the impasse. But the federal government shut down on October 1 after Republicans refused to fund the government without unrealistic policy changes to the Affordable Care Act, and reports from after the shutdown began explained how Republicans changed congressional rules to ensure federal gridlock.

^ Further proof, as if any more is needed, that FOX "news" is just the propaganda mouthpiece for the GOP.

How about NBC then? More spoon feeding lies, half truths and double speak, just like what got him into office..He's the champ at it...Nothing's changed..

Report: Obama administration knew millions wouldn't be able to keep insurance

Before the Affordable Care Act became law in 2010, President Obama promised Americans they could keep their healthcare plan if they liked it. But already hundreds of thousands of citizens are receiving notification that their plans are being cancelled because they don't comply with the new law, and, according to NBC News, the Obama administration has known for at least three years the cancellations were coming.

Report: Obama administration knew millions wouldn't be able to keep insurance

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by bsnub

Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy claimed on October 16 that Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett was "the architect of the shutdown," continuing the network's pattern of excusing Republicans of blame for the impasse. But the federal government shut down on October 1 after Republicans refused to fund the government without unrealistic policy changes to the Affordable Care Act, and reports from after the shutdown began explained how Republicans changed congressional rules to ensure federal gridlock.

^ Further proof, as if any more is needed, that FOX "news" is just the propaganda mouthpiece for the GOP.

How about NBC then? More spoon feeding lies, half truths and double speak, just like what got him into office..He's the champ at it...Nothing's changed..

Report: Obama administration knew millions wouldn't be able to keep insurance

Before the Affordable Care Act became law in 2010, President Obama promised Americans they could keep their healthcare plan if they liked it. But already hundreds of thousands of citizens are receiving notification that their plans are being cancelled because they don't comply with the new law, and, according to NBC News, the Obama administration has known for at least three years the cancellations were coming.

Report: Obama administration knew millions wouldn't be able to keep insurance

You forget to mention the fact that plans are being cancelled because they are shit plans that don't meet the minimum requirements of the ACA and that they are being replaced with better plans, usually at lower premiums.

Fifteen Differences Between Democrats And Republicans
AUTHOR: JEFF MAY 9, 2013 12:59 PM

I’ve noticed over the years, there are some fundamental differences in the way Republican and Democratic politicians think. Here are just 15 examples.

Republicans fear that the government has too much control over corporations. Democrats fear that corporations have too much control over our government.

Democrats believe it benefits all of us to help the weakest and the poorest among us. Republicans believe it benefits all of us to help the wealthiest and most powerful among us.

Republicans believe large corporations will always do what is best for the American people if the government stays out of the way. Democrats believe large corporations would disembowel you and sell your organs to the highest bidder if the government didn’t stop them.

Democrats believe everyone is entitled to health care regardless of their ability to pay. Republicans believe everyone is entitled to jack squat if they can’t pay for health care.

Democrats believe too much of our money goes to crooked corporate executives who take government subsidies and pay themselves $80 million salaries. Republicans believe too much of our money goes to teachers who make $30,000 a year.

Democrats believe anything that helps the American people during a recession or a time of crisis is the true essence of patriotism. Republicans believe anything that helps the American people during a recession or a time of crisis is the true essence of communism.

Democrats believe that we need to set high standards for clean air and drinking water. Republicans believe that standards for clean air and water are burdensome over-regulation.

Democrats believe the President and Congress need to work together to create jobs during a weak economy. Republicans believe that Congress should do nothing to create jobs and then blame the President.

Democrats believe that corporate polluters should be made to pay for the cleanup of their pollution. Republicans believe that making corporations clean up their pollution is burdensome over-regulation.

Democrats believe our health care system exists solely for the purpose of making people healthy. Republicans believe our health care system exists solely for the purpose of making a healthy profit.

Democrats believe Congress should be of the people, by the people and for the people. Republicans believe corporations are the people.

Democrats believe that corporations have too much influence over Congress due to their lobbyists and huge campaign contributions. Republicans believe the middle class has too much influence over Congress due to their voting and paying taxes.

Democrats believe we need to protect victims of corporate negligence by allowing Americans to file lawsuits against corporations. Republicans believe we need to protect large corporations from lawsuits by Americans who’ve been victimized by them.

Democrats believe that the rich should be taxed more than the poor and middle class. Republicans believe that the rich should be allowed to keep all their wealth, except for the millions in campaign contributions they give to politicians.

Democrats believe that too much money in politics produces corruption and destroys the American way of life. Republicans believe that money and corruption in politics are the American way of life.

NBC Poll: shutdown was a stone loser for Obama

When speculative bullshit crashes on the hard rocks of data

All in all, 41 percent of respondents say they have a less favorable opinion of the president since the 16 day government shutdown, compared to 21 percent who say they have a more favorable view since the shutdown.

Imagine that!

I just love it when Boontard posts links to articles he hasn't actually read

"The GOP’s favorability is at an all-time low as well, with only 22 percent of those surveyed seeing the Republican Party positively compared to 53 percent who see it in a negative light.


Congressional Democrats and Republicans are carefully watching the polls in the wake of the government shutdown fallout, looking ahead to how it could influence the 2014 elections. On that point, the poll revealed that 45 percent of those surveyed would prefer a Democrat-controlled Congress following the 2014 election, compared to 41 percent who say they would prefer a Republican led Congress.

Read more: Poll: Obama approval at all-time low - Jose DelReal - POLITICO.com

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Look, in Australia it's the other way round. The newly elected conservative government wants to reduce government spending, so it needs to lift the debt ceiling (Huh? Why?). The Labour opposition refuses. Government shutdown looms.

Australia warns of US-style debt shutdown