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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Protests outside the Spite House.



    All Barry has to do is start dialog with Boner instead of basically giving the finger to the American public...
    Is that a confederate flag I see? A shameful symbol of slavery and segregation, the confederate battle flag has been appropriated by the Ku Klux Klan and other racist hate groups.

    Teaparty crackers remain incensed that our country has twice elected an African American to the highest office of the land.

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    Return To Sender. Watch As Hundreds Return Barrycards to Spite House





    Take these Barrycades and stick 'em where the sun don't shine, Barry!

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    Pay attention to the little African American lady cop. She lunges at them several times with her baton.

    She may be a female but she sure ain't no lady...

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    one of the most amusing things i've noticed over the past week or so is that the t-hadists and GOP lackeys have been expending considerable effort highlighting that the national parks and other govt services and agencies are closed due to the shutdown.
    and yes, the average voter does get upset that these things are shut down....but the average voter is not blaming it on the president.....he/she is putting the blame on republicans...where it belongs.

    so, keep digging your own graves suckers!


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    ^Failing the legislative strength to get Obamacare defunded through legitimate processes they hold a gun to head of America and then have the audacity to blame the results of the very tactics they employed on the White House and senate. As the party slides inexorably to the extreme right the public abandons them en masse.
    Losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Seems those 'ol Barrycades were no match for determined Vets!
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    From the Veteran’s protest at DC today:
    Tea partiers are proud of themselves for taking an event about veterans and turning it into another platform to showcase their hatred of this president, but they should be ashamed of themselves. The people who turned the march into an anti-Obama rally shamed and humiliated our veterans. Every vet knows that it doesn’t matter what political party a president is from, they are still the Commander in Chief. The organizers of this event may or may not be conservatives, but it is clear that they didn’t want the tea party mob, or Palin and Cruz’s grandstanding at their event.

    Million Vet March Organizers Condemn Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and the Tea Party

    Oops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla View Post
    The organizers of this event may or may not be conservatives, but it is clear that they didn’t want the tea party mob, or Palin and Cruz’s grandstanding at their event.

    Million Vet March Organizers Condemn Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and the Tea Party

    Oops!

    it's all about me, me, me (Cruz, Palin, Lee): Million Vet March on the Memorials ™


    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Milli...39097822833735

    an update (calling out Cruz and Palin)


    sleep with dogs and wake up with: Million Vet March on the Memorials
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBorn to push paper View Post
    they are mostly self sustaining to a point.
    You're wrong.

    1995/6 I believe the national parks raised less than 10% of their revenue from fees and charges.

    Today I believe that number is up to about 35 to 40%.

    Our National Park Service is nowhere close to paying for itself.
    Last edited by S Landreth; 15-10-2013 at 07:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    Is that a confederate flag I see? A shameful symbol of slavery and segregation, the confederate battle flag has been appropriated by the Ku Klux Klan and other racist hate groups. Teaparty crackers remain incensed that our country has twice elected an African American to the highest office of the land.
    The want to bring back the Confederacy to make sure that doesn't happen again.

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    Who cares if there is a confederate flag - it has many meanings.

    The KKK killed a certain number of people - which of course was evil.

    But blacks kill more blacks in a fraction of the time. These are the stats that certain people don't want us to see.

    Lots of misnomers and over-generalizations being made.
    ............

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    who's shutdown again?



    During a floor speech on Saturday, drew attention to the quietly passed rule when he attempted to present a motion to accept the Senate's clean continuing resolution and reopen the government.
    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), presiding over the chamber, told Van Hollen that the rule he was asking to use had been "altered" and he did not have the privilege of bringing that vote to the floor. In the ensuing back and forth, Chaffetz said the recently passed House Resolution 368 trumped the standing rules. Where any member of the House previously could have brought the clean resolution to the floor under House Rule 22, House Resolution 368 -- passed on the eve of the shutdown -- gave that right exclusively to the House majority leader, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia.
    "The Rules Committee, under the rules of the House, changed the standing rules of the House to take away the right of any member to move to vote to open the government, and gave that right exclusively to the Republican Leader," said Van Hollen. "Is that right?"

    "The House adopted that resolution," replied Chaffetz.
    "I make my motion, Mr. Speaker," said Van Hollen. "I renew my motion that under the regular standing rules of the House... that the house take up the Senate amendments and open the government now."
    "Under section 2 of H.R. 368, that motion may be offered only by the majority leader or his designee," Chaffetz said.
    "Mr. Speaker, why were the rules rigged to keep the government shut down?" Van Hollen asked.
    "The gentleman will suspend," Chaffetz interjected.
    "Democracy has been suspended, Mr. Speaker."

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    The KKK killed a certain number of people - which of course was evil. But blacks kill more blacks in a fraction of the time. These
    This is a complete non-sequiter. By what "logic" is that any standard of comparason for anything?
    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    Who cares if there is a confederate flag - it has many meanings.
    What other meanings...?
    It's the flag of an army of turncoats who declared war on their own country for political/economic reasons. Sound familiar.

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    Tea Partyers shout racist slur at White House cops: “Looks like something out of Kenya”

    Wow. I’ve been to many a protest at the White House, and I’ve never seen people belittle the police like the Sarah Palin / Ted Cruz Tea Party protesters did today. There’s video, and it’s awful.

    Calling the police protecting the White House “brownshirts,” laughing at them, and then one guy says “looks like something out of Kenya.”

    The fanciful notion that President Obama was born in Kenya – he was in fact born in Hawaii – is a common racist slur that Tea Party adherents and other conservative Republicans use against the President.


    Keep in mind these are the same people who brought confederate flags to the protest. As Peter Sylwester noted on Twitter, “Perhaps the Confederate flag mob will move next to reopen the Lincoln Memorial.”
    Tea Party slurs White House cops: "Looks like something out of Kenya"


    At least their soul mates in the KKK know how to put on a decent demonstration. Washington 1928-









    Ku Klux Klan parades down Pennsylvania Ave 1928 - YouTube


    an army of turncoats
    Traitors & Enemies of America, but what a pathetic 'army'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Who cares if there is a confederate flag - it has many meanings.

    The KKK killed a certain number of people - which of course was evil.

    But blacks kill more blacks in a fraction of the time. These are the stats that certain people don't want us to see.

    Lots of misnomers and over-generalizations being made.
    Dude, sorry, but a bunch of angry white people flying the Confederate Flag in front of an African American's home is about as offensive as you can get. The only thing missing were white sheets and a burning cross.



    Conservatives agree-

    davidfrum @davidfrum Pro tip: If you want to express your love of US Army & its monuments … leave the Confederate flag at home.



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    Ironic that GOP is "respecting our vets" by proudly waving the flag of an enemy that killed 500,000 US vets

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    They never seem to display their hate flags at the Lincoln Memorial.

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    Tea Party Follows Ku Klux Klan Ideology

    I have been saying this for some time. The Tea party is the modern day KKK. See here;

    For the past 21 months, and during this election cycle, there is an increase in hate and vitriol from groups like the Tea Party (led by Jim DeMint et al) that are directly tied to the Ku Klux Klan‘s ideology. There are members of the Tea Party who are not blatant racists, but for the most part, teabaggers espouse a return to a white-only America that is in direct contrast to the Constitution and freedoms it guarantees for all Americans.

    Unlike the KKK, teabagger groups mask their bigoted philosophy with notions of protecting liberty and returning to the strictest interpretation of the Constitution. Regardless the teabag rhetoric, at the core is a hatred of gays, immigrants, Jews, people of color, and non-Christians, which is exactly the same philosophy of the KKK.

    The “birther” movement that denies President Obama is an American citizen and the 14TH Amendment revisionist movement are a direct response to a black man in the Oval Office. Like the Ku Klux Klan, these bigots insist that America is a whites-only nation, and a black man as President is unacceptable; and in their opinion, illegal. The birther movement and the KKK share the belief that our first black president is not a real American.

    There is an alarming movement in some states to deny citizenship to immigrant’s children in violation of the 14TH Amendment, and it is aimed primarily at Hispanics. The KKK hates immigrants and minorities, and now they have agents in the teabaggers who are trying to drive minorities out of the country. It is a step to denying citizenship to any person of color, and like Nazi Germany, people are getting caught up in the herd-mentality and joining the battle against non-white Americans. It is no coincidence that the KKK uses the swastika as their symbol, and it is ironic that teabaggers accuse President Obama of being a Nazi when they follow KKK ideology.

    People who live in the southern United States understand that the culture of bigotry is ingrained in many from the South, and many southerners condone the KKK and teabagger philosophy. If the South had the assets, they would fight the Civil War again for the sole purpose of banning immigrants, people of color, Jews, gays, and non-Christians from being American.

    Politicians like Jim DeMint, Ken Cuccinelli (VA-R), and many other Republican/teabaggers from the south are imposing their Christian morals on the American people by demonizing gays and Muslims. Teabaggers believe America is a Christian nation, and like the Ku Klux Klan, campaign to purify America by enforcing archaic biblical laws to purge non-compliant citizens from the country.

    The Ku Klux Klan burns bible-crosses to glorify Jesus Christ and openly declare their hatred for Jews, Muslims, and Catholics. It is not far removed from Daniel Webster’s (FL-R) wishes to make biblical stoning punishment for heresy. In the case of Webster and the KKK, heresy is any teaching that is NOT evangelical Christian, and their beliefs are those of the Christian Reconstructionist movement.

    This week the NAACP released a report showing the connection between 6 Tea Party groups and extremists like the Ku Klux Klan, supporting the idea that teabaggers are racially motivated. Observers have felt the teabags are racist based on the representation of white people at teabagger gatherings, and their hatred for immigrants; the NAACP report substantiates that belief.

    With the rise in popularity of the teabag movement, the true bigoted nature of many in America is made manifest and one has to wonder just how prevalent the KKK’s influence on American politics will become. Obviously, the KKK and teabagger mentality is not confined to southern states and shows the scope and breadth of bigots all across America.

    Hopefully, exposing the connection between the Ku Klux Klan and the Tea Party will alarm and anger decent Americans enough that teabag candidates and their racially motivated policies will be shunned. However, with the mood of the country becoming more hateful and bigoted toward minorities and non-Christians, it looks like very dark days ahead for everyone in America. Because just as hate and frenzy steered Nazi Germany, it is having the same effect here in America…land of the free, home of the bigot.

    Tea Party Follows Ku Klux Klan Ideology | Politicus USA's Archives

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    i would like to think/hope that the majority of tea baggers aren't racist....but i would wager a considerable sum that most racists identify politically as teabaggers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    most racists identify politically as teabaggers.
    Nope- only the white ones. Actually, I doubt the hardcore, neo-nazi white supremacist types would be welcome at a teabag rally- I hope not anyway.

    For all the media attention they are getting, and the damage they have wrought on the gop,we should put the teabaggers in perspective- their so called rallies are actually very small, dwarfed by the civil rights era protest marches (both pro and anti), and Vietnam protests. Their attempt to piggyback off a sizable Veterans rally for media publicity, ended with them being shot down in flames. And the 'Million Biker Rally', what a laugh- not to mention the Teabag Truckers Brigade wannabe blockade of DC- about 30 trucks turned up, and got caught in traffic so they called it off.

    What the Tea Party is best at, is hyperbole. And threats- it's constant threats seem to be particularly effective against spineless republican politicians. Shades of the NRA.
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    Now, whether it were the Vets or the Park Police leaving their trash behind, it don't matter to this guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    Boehner capitulates (fuckin' pathetic wimp) and the GOP/Teabaggers have got nothing to show for their shutdown
    I know a guy who hired John Boehner to represent him in a civil dispute over building a driveway.

    He's now doing 10,000 years in a Federal Supermax "married" to Big Silky.

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    It's an Obama World Out There, Folks!

    NPS Director: Terrorism Made Us Shut Down the Parks
    The National Park Service director told Congress on Wednesday that he had to shut down the open-air memorials on the Mall during the government shutdown because of terrorism, saying that closing them was the only way to protect them "in a post-9/11 world."

    Director Jonathan B. Jarvis also said his agency had received intelligence showing an increased threat of danger since the shutdown began - though he would not tell two House committees what those warnings were.
    Apparently that threat included domestic terrorists such as these members of the WWII Veterans Front.




    It gets better:

    MoveOn.org Petition Calls For Arrest Of Republican Leaders For Sedition
    One outlet for that fury is a petition from the progressive MoveOn.org that calls for the U.S. Department of Justice to arrest and try Republican leaders, including House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (Va.) and House Speaker John Boehner (Ohio), for "the crime of seditious conspiracy against the United States of America."

    The petition argues that "the House GOP leadership's use of the Hastert Rule and H. Res 368 to shut down the government and threaten the US economy with default is an attempt to extort the United States government into altering or abolishing the Affordable Care Act, and thus, is self-evidently a seditious conspiracy." (The U.S. Code defines "seditious conspiracy" in part as any conspiracy "to oppose by force the authority [of the U.S. government], or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States." )
    Well good luck with that. Of course if sedition laws were still enforced, most of the Democratic leadership would have ended up in jail during Bush's presidency...
    A Deplorable Bitter Clinger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Well good luck with that. Of course if sedition laws were still enforced, most of the Democratic leadership would have ended up in jail during Bush's presidency...
    Wasn't the Sedition Act repealed about 200 years ago?

    Heh, maybe that's the joke - convict teabaggers with post-revolution era laws!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    The KKK killed a certain number of people - which of course was evil. But blacks kill more blacks in a fraction of the time.
    A 'Milkman' !

    From memory:

    Can't blame Timothy McWeigh, but too bad he blew up the kindergarten too

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBorn View Post
    That being they were wasting more money trying to keep them closed merely out of spite...
    All she wrote - end of story.

    If the Lefties want to read anything more into it they look like even bigger fools than they are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBorn View Post
    That being they were wasting more money trying to keep them closed merely out of spite...
    All she wrote - end of story.

    If the Lefties want to read anything more into it they look like even bigger fools than they are...
    both you two don't seem to get it (but that doesn't seem to be anything new), this park shut down wasn't outa spite, it was because of the Anti-deficiency Act.

    When the Rethugs/teabaggers shut the government down there were consequences.

    For nearly six minutes on Wednesday morning, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) angrily berated the head of the National Park Service for closing down parks and memorials in Washington, D.C.

    During a joint committee hearing, the Republican congressman asked NPS Director Jonathan Jarvis why protesters associated with Occupy Wall Street were allowed to camp in McPherson Square in 2011 but World War II veterans were not allowed to visit open-air monuments amid the government shutdown.

    Jarvis told Gowdy that D.C. parks and memorials must close during a shutdown under the Anti-deficiency Act, which prohibits federal employees from spending money that has not been authorized by Congress.

    suck it up. The rethugs shut the government down and caused the mess.

    lesson for the day

    1789: Balance of powers.

    The framers of the Constitution gave Congress control over spending as a way to limit the power of the presidency. The government can only spend money "in consequence of appropriations made by law," or in other words, after Congress says so and with the president's signature.
    ___

    1800s: Power struggles.

    Turns out it's not easy to shoo federal bureaucrats away from the piggy bank.

    When they wanted to spend more than Congress gave, the War Department and other agencies ordered stuff on credit. Then they would go to Congress seeking an appropriation to pay the bills. Lawmakers felt obliged to cover the government's debts, but they weren't happy about it. The executive branch was undermining Congress's power of the purse.

    Congress responded with a series of laws that eventually got one of those dreadful Washington monikers: the Anti-Deficiency Act.

    Because of the act, officials who mistakenly spend money Congress hasn't OK'd face disciplinary action, ranging from firing to hours stuck in mind-numbing budget training. There are exceptions for spending to protect lives or property.

    But willful overspending is a crime that carries the threat of fines and two years in prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaBorn View Post
    That being they were wasting more money trying to keep them closed merely out of spite...
    All she wrote - end of story.

    If the Lefties want to read anything more into it they look like even bigger fools than they are...
    both you two don't seem to get it (but that doesn't seem to be anything new), this park shut down wasn't outa spite, it was because of the Anti-deficiency Act.


    The Anti-deficiency Act was what was keeping the Vets from respecting their Memorials?

    What you been smoking, boy...

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