Thread: Libertarian Test

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Prisons: Louisiana sure is a model for privatization ... Uh huh, yeah right ... IMHO those who support privatization of prisons are just plain cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

i remember reading an article recently which reported that some state or county made a deal with a privatized prison on a minimum occupancy rate.

that, quite obviously, is completely insane.

Turning the prison system into a profit making enterprise has got to be one of the most morally corrupt ideas ever conceived in what is supposed to be the model democracy ... OK, insane.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Turning the prison system into a profit making enterprise has got to be one of the most morally corrupt ideas ever conceived in what is supposed to be the model democracy ... OK, insane.

I agree completely. If punishment is the domain of private enterprise, why not law enforcement and the justice system. Can everything be turned into a commodity for profit?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Turning the prison system into a profit making enterprise has got to be one of the most morally corrupt ideas ever conceived in what is supposed to be the model democracy ... OK, insane.

I agree completely. If punishment is the domain of private enterprise, why not law enforcement and the justice system. Can everything be turned into a commodity for profit?

It seems it can. Even war, when you consider the thouands of privateers the Government hires to go to Iraq and Afghanistan.

There was a case last year of a local fire department that wouldn't put out a house fire because the guy hadn't paid his annual fee for the service. I've never lived anywhere where you had to pay a seperate fee for fire service.

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You miss the larger point.

The prison guards can trump up anything they want to keep the prisoner in longer and assure themselves a little job security.

On a larger level, the companies that create these private beurocracies (sp) hire lobbyists to...guess what...write laws to put people in jail, or increase the sentence for certain crimes.

It has corruption written on the face of it. But there's so much of it out in the open these days, it's easy to lose sight of.

Just a scheme to have an unlimited supply of slave labor.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Just a scheme to have an unlimited supply of slave labor.

Well, wouldn't expect a Big Government advocate such as yourself to buy into it but for me, the lessor tax burden seems to be worth it.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Turning the prison system into a profit making enterprise has got to be one of the most morally corrupt ideas ever conceived in what is supposed to be the model democracy ... OK, insane.

I agree completely. If punishment is the domain of private enterprise, why not law enforcement and the justice system. Can everything be turned into a commodity for profit?

The punishment was already meted out by the Court and the prisoner is merely being housed in a facility more economically run than a vast bureaucratic government prison system.

Another lie. Like every other service formally government run, transportation, communication, electricity; private prisons cost the taxpayer or consumer more than before. The point of privatisation is to rise the prices in order to make profits.

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Heh...tell us about how profitable the USPS is?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Heh...tell us about how profitable the USPS is?

If you tell us how much you're prepared to pay for shipping a package if it's privatised....

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Heh...tell us about how profitable the USPS is?

If you tell us how much you're prepared to pay for shipping a package if it's privatised....

I just want him to tell us ... Why ... USPS isn't profitable. Not sure he's willing to expound on that ... Maybe he'll offer up a meme or something.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Heh...tell us about how profitable the USPS is?

Tell us where in the Postal Clause it says that the USPS has to be profitable? I thought you teabaggers were supposed to support the Constitution.

Anyway, it might be if not for the pension millstone slung around its neck by the GOP.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Heh...tell us about how profitable the USPS is?

If you tell us how much you're prepared to pay for shipping a package if it's privatised....

Fed Ex can ship a package to me here in LOS for <$15.00USD where the exact same package would cost >$30.00 thru USPS.

My Aunt back there just did a price comparison...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Heh...tell us about how profitable the USPS is?

If you tell us how much you're prepared to pay for shipping a package if it's privatised....

Fed Ex can ship a package to me here in LOS for <$15.00USD where the exact same package would cost >$30.00 thru USPS.

My Aunt back there just did a price comparison...

This is an outright lie. I just ran my own price quote on both sites and as someone with a logistics background I knew you where full of shit. The cost to send a 5 pound box to Thailand from the US using Fedex via the cheapest method is $152.50 via FedEx International Economy.

I could ship the same 5 pounds using USPS Priority Mail International for $59.95.

What other lies do you have for me to debunk today boontard?

Yea, I'm a rational thinking person and failed the test with 18.

(Quite an unintelligent test)

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

Yea, I'm a rational thinking person and failed the test with 18.

(Quite an unintelligent test)

There's no 'pass/fail involved with this 'test'.

Just a mild diversion to spark some debate!

Guess what boys & girls, the UK is privatizing it's Royal Mail Service thru a public stock offering sometime in the next few months, Obviously the way to go for the US Postal Service too at some point.

Now, all they need to do too is privatized their Health Service - the NHS which is a public shame. Lady Thatcher would be so proud!

Britain set to privatize its Royal Mail postal service | McClatchy

Another government sell off to raise some desperately needed cash. The following are guaranteed: (1) Jobs will be lost; (2) Prices will go up; (3) Service will deteriorate.

Just as we've seen after the sell off of Trains, Water, Utilities.....

Yep, and they need the cash to subsidize the new private owners of trains, water, utilities, post. The conservative utopia has arrived.

^ That graphic is fucked up on so many levels it's laughable.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Humbert

Just a scheme to have an unlimited supply of slave labor.

Well, wouldn't expect a Big Government advocate such as yourself to buy into it but for me, the lessor tax burden seems to be worth it.

What it's really about:

CCA

And it's also why many don't want immigration reform ... Private prisons are big business along the borders.

Got That Right!