Thread: 2016 Democratic US Presidential Candidates

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Wow, we actually agree on something!

No we don't, because I would make Obama send his little angels into the front line but after he had read a preprepared statement saying that it was not a good idea, you would agree with him and call me a looney for suggesting it. All the while, other peoples children would be dying.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I wonder is Clinton partied with hookers along with the security detail? Maybe he is dad of the year because in 2013 he fathered more illegitimate kids than anyone else? Reckon Bill has a thing for arab looking women though - check out hairy monica - hence why hillary has such a blood lust for Arabs now. Maybe Syria and Iran could buy her a vibrator. might prevent a war.

Clinton gets Wood looking at a knot-hole in the fence. Of course he partied with those hookers!

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Wow, we actually agree on something!

No we don't, because I would make Obama send his little angels into the front line but after he had read a preprepared statement saying that it was not a good idea, you would agree with him and call me a looney for suggesting it. All the while, other peoples children would be dying.

Hmmm, I think you're a bit confused there Pseudo-troll. President Obama is the guy who's been STOPPING wars, not starting them.



You must be thinking of this guy-

Tony, you're so out of touch it's painful.

Why do you suppose they call Obama the Drone Ranger?

And MN has a reputation for good public schools and above average SAT scores.

Obviously you didn't make the cut...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Tony, you're so out of touch it's painful.

Why do you suppose they call Obama the Drone Ranger?

And MN has a reputation for good public schools and above average SAT scores.

Obviously you didn't make the cut...

Hmmm, so President Obama didn't end the war in Iraq where GW Bush sent thousands of young American men and women to die in an illegal war that cost the US some ~$4-6 trillion?

Did you even graduate high school Boontard?

^
Paul Wellstone International High?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^
Paul Wellstone International High?

^ Republicans, the party of stupid

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

I wonder if the people in Palestine would agree? How about the civilians in Libya? Or Pakistan where his drone bombs are wiping out families?

"Hi I am tony, I believe everything I read that is good about Obama, and refuse to believe that he is not perfect. his shit, actually, tastes like strawberries"

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

I wonder if the people in Palestine would agree? How about the civilians in Libya? Or Pakistan where his drone bombs are wiping out families?

"Hi I am tony, I believe everything I read that is good about Obama, and refuse to believe that he is not perfect. his shit, actually, tastes like strawberries"

LOL, President Obama's success sure does get you wound up, doesn't it...

Bet you can't wait for Hillary in 2016!


Hillary Clinton speech embraces Obama priorities, hints at potential agenda for 2016

Hillary Clinton speech embraces Obama priorities, hints at potential agenda for 2016 - The Washington Post

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

President Obama's body count of innocent civilians sure does get you wound up,

corrected it for you there, hot shot. And yes, it does.

Haters gonna hate.

Now do try to get back on topic, if you can

Hillary Clinton 2016: Why We Will Have 12 Years of Democratic Presidents


Hillary Clinton 2016: Why We Will Have 12 Years of Democratic Presidents

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Hillary Clinton 2016: Why We Will Have 12 Years of Democratic Presidents

Hmmm 15 trillion deficit then by then? Great.

Heh Tony - Hillary once got in trouble for saying there should be a 2 state solution. Now she says the reverse whilst choking down her bile. Does that make her a sell out?

I'm not sure even dubya would have armed al qaeda to try and overthrow a secular regime that has the support of most of the population. Obama is indeed a war criminal, like Bush.
I suppose the US will have no problem getting around it's own sanctions for aiding and abetting a terrorist organisation.

Originally Posted by sabang

terrorist organisation.

Define..

Originally Posted by bsnub

Define..

CIA?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Heh Tony - Hillary once got in trouble for saying there should be a 2 state solution. Now she says the reverse whilst choking down her bile. Does that make her a sell out?

Not a single part of that statement is true. Are you on drugs?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Not a single part of that statement is true. Are you on drugs?

Jing lor? Wasn't in you r I Love Hillary hand out?

1998 Hillary Clinton was First Lady, she was sharply criticized for saying that

“it would be in the long-term interests of peace in the Middle East for there to be a state of Palestine, a functioning modern state on the same footing as other states.”

Then she went sucking up the AIPAC in NY for the votes (and contributions from te PACS) so she changed her stance.

"U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rebuked the United Nations General Assembly's vote to recognize a Palestinian state, calling it an ‘unfortunate and counterproductive’ move"

Ahh Humbert - just more proof that you dem flag wavers are mindless drones with a very very poor memory.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

1998 Hillary Clinton was First Lady, she was sharply criticized for saying that

“it would be in the long-term interests of peace in the Middle East for there to be a state of Palestine, a functioning modern state on the same footing as other states.”

Then she went sucking up the AIPAC in NY for the votes (and contributions from te PACS) so she changed her stance.

I recall that in the late 90's that Israel, under the leadership of Prime Minister Barak, was openly discussing the possibility of a "2 state" solution. President Bill Clinton invested a lot of diplomatic effort towards negotiating a 2 state solution between the parties. It would make sense that the First Lady would support her husband on the issue.

The Oslo Accords officially divided Palestinian land into administrative divisions and created the framework a Palestinian state. Israel committed to the phased withdrawal of its forces from the Gaza Strip and West Bank and affirmed the Palestinian right to self rule within those areas through the creation of the Palestinian Authority.

Unfortunately, the violent Second Intifada Palestinian uprising in 2000 it became clear that the majority of Palestinians did not favor a 2 state solution.

There is also a lot of evidence that indicates that Yasser Arafat planned the Intifada.

The Oslo Accords are the closest Israel and the Palestinians ever came to negotiating a 2 state solution.

Since then support for a 2 state solution has eroded considerably amongst all parties. It does not surprise me at all that Hillary Clinton has changed her view on this issue. Israel offered the Palestinians a real shot at their own country with the Oslo Accords, but the Palestinians sabotaged the process with their Second Intifada.

Like Clinton, I sincerely believed at the time that a 2 state solution was possible, but after watching the Palestinians throw away their best chance at a country of their own I too have changed my stance on this issue.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Hmmm, I think you're a bit confused there Pseudo-troll. President Obama is the guy who's been STOPPING wars, not starting them.

They must be squirming in Oslo for having given the prize to this miserable fraudster. He not only continued the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, he added a few more, and the whole Islamic world is more destabilized than ever. And what about his defence budget? Significantly higher than under Bush.

Originally Posted by Rainfall

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Hmmm, I think you're a bit confused there Pseudo-troll. President Obama is the guy who's been STOPPING wars, not starting them.

They must be squirming in Oslo for having given the prize to this miserable fraudster. He not only continued the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, he added a few more, and the whole Islamic world is more destabilized than ever. And what about his defence budget? Significantly higher than under Bush.

Um, unless I'm mistaken, didn't President Obama END the war in Iraq a few years ago already?

True, the NATO occupation of Afghanistan continues, but progress is being made towards a withdrawal of foreign troops. The NATO-led ISAF Forces will hand over command of all combat missions to Afghan forces by the middle of 2013. US troops should be out of Afghanistan next year.

“We achieved our central goal, or have come very close to achieving our central goal, which is to de-capacitate al-Qaeda, to dismantle them, to make sure that they can’t attack us again,” Obama added. “At the end of this conflict, we are going to be able to say that the sacrifices that were made by those men and women in uniform has brought about the goal that we sought.”

Is the defense budget larger under Obama than it was under GW Bush? I'd like to see some figures that support that as it doesn't seem credible, especially since we've been out of Iraq for 3 years now...

Ok, but the US embassy in Iraq maintains 17,000 staff. Plus about 10,000 military personnel elsewhere in the country.

The US departure from Iraq is an illusion | James Denselow | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Defence budget actually came down a little recently, but it peaked under Obama in the office.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Like Clinton, I sincerely believed at the time that a 2 state solution was possible, but after watching the Palestinians throw away their best chance at a country of their own I too have changed my stance on this issue.

I believe the "two state" solution of the time was, in fact, to make the Palestiniand "State" a collection of Bantustans (sp) with no control over their own water, borders, roads, etc. , not unlike the South African apartheid system of the American Indian Reservations. It was sold through the media as a generous offer for the Palestinains, who were painted as fools for refusing it.