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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Banghazi-gate

Dafuq is Banghazi-gate?

6 Presidential-Campaign Themes Hillary Clinton Is Test-Driving


Hillary Clinton only spoke for a few minutes Thursday night, beside stone columns lit with red and blue lights, and before an iPhone-toting crowd that had gathered to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Center for American Progress. But her words were unmistakably those of a politician who had not yet retired from the electoral game.


She criticized Congress for “careening from crisis to crisis instead of having a plan” and attacked the “scorched earth” politics of the modern age. She praised progressives for pushing “the cause of affordable, quality health care for every American back on the national agenda,” and spoke of her many decades in the trenches of politics. “At the end of the Clinton Administration,” she said, “I knew that if we didn’t have an infrastructure in place to continue to build on what had been accomplished and to hold the line on any efforts at retrenchment, we would not be doing our job.”


It has been like this for months now. Clinton, who claims not to have decided about another presidential run in 2016, has been traveling the country delivering speeches on her own record and current events that sound a lot like precursors to campaign rhetoric. The fact that she is not officially running has not stopped her from testing out themes on the stump, while positioning herself against her likely Republican opponents. The examples show up on both sides of the Atlantic, in paid speeches, at awards dinners, rallies and fundraisers.

Here are six examples that could form the backbone of a 2016 campaign:


1. Economic inequality. Like the Obama campaign’s focus in 2012, Clinton has talked in recent weeks on the growing gap between the nation’s wealthiest and poorest. Accepting an award from her alma mater, Yale Law School, Clinton said in a wide-ranging address that the nation must “reverse this tide of inequality that is eating away at the social fabric of our country.”


2. Youth empowerment. When she left the State Department, she launched the “too small to fail” initiative focused on early-childhood development and education through the newly renamed Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation. “Our country’s future depends on healthy kids and loving families. They’re the building blocks of a strong and prosperous society,” she said in the video launching the new program. Such messages have long been a theme for Clinton — who produced a book called It Takes a Village — and it has the added theme of deepening her appeal to the female vote.


3. Selfless ambition. Clinton has never been one to run from the clichés of American electoral politics, and while stumping for Virginia gubernatorial candidate and former campaign co-chair Terry McAuliffe, she fully embraced the classic archetype of the do-good political martyr, willing to selflessly give of herself. “When you think about why people run for office in these times — if it’s only about yourself, if it’s only about you wanting to get a job and the perks that go with it, and having people stand up when you come into the room, that’s not enough anymore because it’s hard,” she told the crowd. “Politics is hard.”


4. The Washington outsider. No one can run for national office these days without running against the seat of national political power, even when a member of her own party occupies the White House. At the same McAuliffe rally, she hit on this point as well. “Recently in Washington, unfortunately, we have seen examples of the wrong kind of leadership, when politicians choose scorched earth instead of common ground,” she added. “When they operate in what I call the ‘evidence-free zone,’ with ideology trumping everything else.”


5. Civility. On Wednesday facing a heckler during a speech at the University of Buffalo, Clinton said the future “doesn’t include yelling … it includes sitting down and talking.” She was rewarded with an extended standing ovation. Speaking earlier this month at Chatham House, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, in London, Clinton responded to a question about the National Security Agency’s controversial surveillance programs, calling for a more open discussion of the spying efforts. ”We need to have a sensible adult conversation about what is necessary to be done, and how to do it, in a way that is as transparent as it can be, with as much oversight and citizens’ understanding as there can be,” she said.


6. International experience. Her speeches are often colored by anecdotes from her four years of travels on behalf of the Obama Administration. At Chatham House she told of a phone call between Chinese activist Chen Guangcheng after Clinton and other U.S. officials helped him leave China with his family. “He called me from the van on the way to the hospital and said, ‘If I were there, I would kiss you,’” Clinton recalled.

Read more: 6 Presidential-Campaign Themes Hillary Clinton Is Test-Driving | TIME.com 6 Presidential-Campaign Themes Hillary Clinton Is Test-Driving | TIME.com

^ The topics of income inequality and youth unemployment.

#4, as an outsider. She has been and is on the inside as anyone.

Just more campaign bullsh*t from a politician.

Originally Posted by barbaro

^ The topics of income inequality and youth unemployment.

#4, as an outsider. She has been and is on the inside as anyone.

Just more campaign bullsh*t from a politician.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by barbaro

I am starting to think if she dies within 3 years it will be good....

Problem sadly is....she is probably the most capable on both sides of the aisle.

^ Dafuq? On the one hand you say she's the "most capable" and on the other hand you hope she dies?!

^ Still trying to understand that one...

Have y'all come up with or manufactured that one, count 'em one (1) lonely single accomplishment HRC has managed on her own as yet?

Didn't think so...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Have y'all come up with or manufactured that one, count 'em one (1) lonely single accomplishment HRC has managed on her own as yet?

How about leaving the Republicans in the dust in every single poll? Not hard to do given the sorry state of the GOP these days

Need some more?

She's been First Lady for two terms, kicked Rick Lazio's sorry ass to become a New York Senator, during her two terms in the Senate she sponsored 363 bills and co-sponsored well over 1000. Ran for President in 2008. Nominated Secretary of State by President Obama in 2009.

She's smart and experienced and the Executive Office is hers for the taking if she chooses to run in 2016.

She's an accomplished liar, that's for sure:

Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here's her scorecard:

Admitted Lies

• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn't cover the market back then.)

Whoppers She Won't Confess To

• She didn't know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn't know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn't know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn't know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the '90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Hillary's List of Lies

That's just a list going back to 5 years ago. She's got a whole lot more loose with the truth since then starting with the men she abandoned in Benghazi.

^ Repeating the same old lies over and over ad nauseum does not make them true Boontard

^^This shit opinion piece was written by Dick Morris the former political adviser to Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) back in 2008. It is bogus ancient history.

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

^ Repeating the same old lies over and over ad nauseum does not make them true Boontard

Except every last one of those examples is like, accurate.

Nice try but no cee-gar...

Let's just take the Bosnia Lie for example...



Born liar. You need to be reminded how she was summarily run-off (fired) from the Watergate Committee for her lies and low behavior again?

^ She will be the next POTUS boontard.

Heh...if this is anyone's ideal candidate for the highest office in the land, they belong in a padded room.

Does that apply to you, snubtard?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Let's just take the Bosnia Lie for example...

Proof only that Mrs Clinton has had far more battlefield experience than any of the nancy pants civilians that the GOP might put up against her in 2016

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

^ Repeating the same old lies over and over ad nauseum does not make them true Boontard

Except every last one of those examples is like, accurate.

Nope Booners, every "example" is a debunked LIE, but you just keep on spamming those deceptions and we'll just keep on knocking them down.

Come 2016 we will enjoy a nice belly laugh as the GOP continues to self-destruct and the Democrats waltz to another term in the White House.

Another little reminder from the voters in the US. Cruz sucks and doesn't have a chance against Hillary.

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net...onToplines.pdf

What do you say we take a stroll down memory lane and revisit one of HRC's most egregious examples of moral turpitude - in this case, outright murder:

Vincent Foster

The very last thing Hillary's ex-lover ever did was wash his hands - after shooting himself in the head!

Vince Foster's hand with gun - but no blood!

William Colby, Former Director of the CIA, concluded that the Vincent Foster "suicide note" was a forgery, but he soon met with the same fate

Vincent Foster
Forged suicide note
The Vince Foster Stonewall "Don't believe a word you hear. It was not suicide. It couldn't have been." - Assistant Attorney General Webster Hubbell, Jul 20, 1993. Did Hillary's affair with Foster play a role in both his death and perhaps even that of Jerry "Luther" Parks? And did Foster make a fatal mistake by turning Parks' file on Bill Clinton over to Hillary in the days before he died?

The Death Of Vincent Foster - Apr 30, 1996 Hillary's fingerprints on Foster's records

Vincent Foster: the death investigation that hasn't ended - May 15, 1996 how the White House spokesman Mark Fabiani tried to gloss over the White House's obstruction of the investigation

101 Peculiarities Surrounding the Death of Vince Foster - Oct 04, 1999 The man who discovered the body in Ft. Marcy Park says there was no gun in either hand

Amended Complaint of Patrick Knowlton Mr Knowlton stopped in Ft. Marcy Park to pee against a tree the afternoon that Vincent Foster died. What Knowlton saw and what happened to him afterwards is one of the most disturbing stories of the whole Clinton saga... On October 22, 1995, a newspaper article entitled "Death in the Park: Is this the killer?" appeared in the (London) Sunday Telegraph

Foster's Honda car key was not among the official evidence

'Vince Foster's Gun' Serial Number Searched Before Death - Apr 04, 2001

The FBI - A Legend Decays - May 16, 2001 the gun found in Foster's hand was the subject of three FBI background checks in the months prior to Foster's death - though the FBI had claimed the gun was a Foster family relic

High court won't order release of Foster photos - Mar 30, 2004

Death of Vince Foster (Part 2) - Oct 16, 2004

The Vincent Foster Op-ed Contest (Redux) - Oct 01, 2005

14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster - Jul 21, 2007 No fewer than three of the paramedics on the scene indicated in reports or testimony that the crime scene was consistent with a murder scene, not a suicide. Who ordered the office looting? Hillary Clinton was on the phone from Little Rock to someone at the White House in the moments before the looting took place.

Who you gonna believe? Your own prejudices and bias's in favor of this Harpy or the facts of the matter?

^ Yawn, just another silly conspiracy theory out of the right wing fever swamp

Suicide of Vince Foster

Deputy White House counsel Vince Foster was found dead in Fort Marcy Park off the George Washington Parkway in Virginia, outside Washington, D.C., on July 20, 1993. His death was ruled a suicide by multiple official investigations.

Official findings

Foster's death was concluded to have been a suicide by inquiries/investigations conducted by the United States Park Police, the Department of Justice, the FBI, the United States Congress, Independent Counsel Robert B. Fiske, and Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr.[2]
After a three-year investigation, Starr concluded that Foster's death was a suicide. CNN stated on February 28, 1997, "The Starr report refutes claims by conservative political organizations that Foster was the victim of a murder plot and coverup," but "despite those findings, right-wing political groups have continued to allege that there was more to the death and that the president and first lady [Bill and Hillary Clinton] tried to cover it up."[3]

You do remember Ken Starr don't you Boontard? If Foster had been murdered or if unanswered questions about his death remained, Starr would have been the last person to want to conclude the investigation prematurely, don't ya think?

The 'most powerful woman in American history' is certainly not immune from the general disgust Americans (amongst others) feel about their political sector-

Hillary Clinton, in addition to President Barack Obama, is facing declining approval numbers, a poll shows.
Clinton has lost a majority of public approval dropping to 46 percent approval from 56 percent in April, according to the NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey released Wednesday. Thirty-three percent have a negative view of the former secretary of state.
The poll also highlights that Clinton is losing support among younger voters, independents and even within her own party. She dropped 15 percentage points since April among 18- to 34-year-olds who said they had a positive view of Clinton to 38 percent. Additionally, her approval rating among independents fell from 46 percent to 35 percent. Clinton’s approval among Democrats also fell by 12 points, from 88 percent in April to 76 percent in the most recent poll.

Read more: Poll: Hillary Clinton approval sinks - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO.com

The thuglicans are copping the worst of the public contempt understandably, but Democrats are tarred by the same brush. The contempt is near universal, and not merely partisan.
If there was ever an optimum time to start with a new broom- be that a new political party, or new political faces, I would say now is that time.

You scratch my back-

Hillary Clinton Rakes in Big Money from Two Goldman Sachs Speeches in One Week
Presumed presidential candidate is pretty cozy with big bankers.

for a cool $200,000 per speech, her normal fee according to Politico and the New York Times.
Hillary Clinton Rakes in Big Money from Two Goldman Sachs Speeches in One Week | Alternet

Expensive speeches might have cost Per Steinbrück and his SPD the election in Germany, but that is probably no issue in the US.

This sounds about right:

Hillary Clinton “will use Goldman Sachs money to convince the country that her opponent will hand the government over to Goldman Sachs.” 11

Basically, that's one of her game plans. That, and attempting to persuade voters she's really qualified for the job which obviously, she ain't...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

This sounds about right: Hillary Clinton “will use Goldman Sachs money to convince the country that her opponent will hand the government over to Goldman Sachs.” 11 Basically, that's one of her game plans. That, and attempting to persuade voters she's really qualified for the job which obviously, she ain't...

I wonder how Mrs Heidi Cruz feels about that, given that she works for Goldman Sachs and all..