Thread: Mitt Romney

^Also, against draw down in Afghanistan.

Romney's running mate, Ryan, voted for two wars and Medicare D which were not funded. He's not a very conservative spender either.


^ Well, damn. Someone beat me to it!

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Romney seems to be another social predator, ala GW Bush

These kind of characters want to turn America into Europe 19th Century for their achievement

a return to the source, trait of a self-destructing European elite

Excellent comment and very true. The corporatists in America are the same elite. They have most of the simpleminded white rightwing working class bought and paid for via fox news and other sources. They can use guns, religion, race and the constitution (A document that most if not all of those working class rightwingers do not understand) to instill fear and then inject control and gain support.

They do this knowing full well that they are convincing these simpletons to vote outside of their own best interest. It is a tried and true American political practice the only difference is the robber barons can not openly buy votes anymore they do it via fox news and fake rightwing blogs today.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Romney seems to be another social predator, ala GW Bush

These kind of characters want to turn America into Europe 19th Century for their achievement

a return to the source, trait of a self-destructing European elite

Excellent comment and very true. The corporatists in America are the same elite. They have most of the simpleminded white rightwing working class bought and paid for via fox news and other sources. They can use guns, religion, race and the constitution (A document that most if not all of those working class rightwingers do not understand) to instill fear and then inject control and gain support.

They do this knowing full well that they are convincing these simpletons to vote outside of their own best interest. It is a tried and true American political practice the only difference is the robber barons can not openly buy votes anymore they do it via fox news and fake rightwing blogs today.

You two sure manage to pat each other on the back while dispensing your elegant but vacuous platitudes.

The facts seem to stack up that big government types are fundamentally the same. Currently there seems to be scarce difference between the two big political parties.

But there are clear contrasts. Obama the union darling and Romney the free enterprise darling.

Since we already know how the Bolshevik revolution turned out the choice is fairly simple.

The problems we are seeing in the free market system today can be tracked to the growth of labor unions since the 1960's.

I suppose it boils down to which elite you prefer, the ones who steal wealth through government over regulation or the people who actually make products and exploit natural resources.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

This is where Romney and his team stands today in the national polls.

romney's down by mid to high single digits, and he knew he wouldn't be able to make it up with another rich white guy (portman) so he's going for the "hail mary pass" with ryan. it's the same kind of desperation that caused mccain to select palin. i'm not saying ryan is as stupid as palin, but the rationale behind the selection is the same.....motivate the base and hope for the best.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Sure there might be a little bump because of the VP pick and after the Republican Convention, but both bumps will be short lived.

i agree. we'll probably see them more or less even out in the next ten days, but by the end of the month (certainly by mid september) the obama campaign will have made it clear to senior citizens in swing states (iowa and florida have a lot of them) what ryan is all about....and it's going to scare the shit of out them.


this is a fantastic chart that will help to destroy the meme that ryan is some sort of deficit hawk. he's been on something of a free ride over the last few years without the national media taking a hard look at his actual record. but that's all about to change in the next two months.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

we can thank paul ryan for voting to add $3,500,000,000,000 to the US deficit.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

The problems we are seeing in the free market system today can be tracked to the growth of labor unions since the 1960's.

Union membership has been declining pretty steadily since before the 60s:




Labor unions in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So Dim Mitt is already keeping Paul where’s my knife Ryan away from certain parts of the country/public. Florida being one of those places. Wonder why? The article uses “toxic” when referring to Ryan’s Medicare Plan. "Death Wish" would be more appropriate.

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will part ways until the Republican convention at a rally in Waukesha, Wisconsin just a day after the pair joined up.

Ryan will travel to Des Moines, Iowa, to visit the state fair on Monday, while Romney will continue his swing state bus tour with a stop in Florida.

Romney adviser Kevin Madden denied that the campaign was keeping Ryan out of Florida because of his proposal to privatize Medicare for people under 55; tinkering with the program for the elderly has long been toxic (a Death Wish) in Florida politics.

The article goes on explaining why Ryan will not be traveling with Mitt the Twit,……

"This has more to do with expanding our bandwidth," he told reporters here on Sunday morning. "Gov. Romney is going to be talking about the issues that are important to Floridians."

Madden didn't respond directly to the question of whether Romney will discuss Medicare in Florida tomorrow. Got to be the funniest part of the article. We know Ryan will not be addressing the issue in Florida if he wants to leave Florida with his shirt.

"He’ll be talking about all the issues that are important to Floridians," Madded repeated. "I think Congressman Ryan is going to be able to be down in Florida during this campaign and will be doing the same at some point."

The Tampa Bay Times reportedyesterday that he will be in Tampa Bay for an August 18 fundraiser.

Madden said that the campaign believes that Ryan will be a particular asset in the Great Lakes.

"Obviously his home state of Wisconsin, and some of these other Great Lakes states, but Iowa in particular," Madded said. "That is a state where I think his life story is important for others, is something that I think helps him connect with a lot of those voters there."

Obama Wins Florida (and it all be over for the Loser Mitt the Twit by 7:25pm EST Nov. 6, 2012): Ryan Skips Florida, Will Focus On Great Lakes States

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Interesting Dim Mitt requires that his running mates give up year’s worth of their Tax Returns but will not let us see his. Kind of a double standard, don’t you think?

Pawlenty: I gave Romney a ‘bunch’ of tax returns for VP vetting: Pawlenty: I gave Romney a ‘bunch’ of tax returns for VP vetting

Mitt Romney's presidential campaign requested "several" years of tax returns from potential vice presidential picks, senior adviser Beth Myers, who ran the search, told reporters Saturday.: Romney Campaign Examined Tax Returns Of Potential Veeps

Romney demanded "several" years tax returns from Ryan, Dim Mitt only gave us 1.5 years: US Politics | AMERICAblog News: Romney demanded "several" years tax returns from Ryan, only gave us 1.5 years

Where the returns

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Mr Earl The problems we are seeing in the free market system today can be tracked to the growth of labor unions since the 1960's. Union membership has been declining pretty steadily since before the 60s:

It's those damn facts again!

And then of course there is highly unionised Germany, the worlds largest exporter, which has knocked the US out of the ballpark economically speaking- and they have Union leaders sitting on the Boards of corporations, by law.

10,000+ Supporters Welcome Paul Ryan Back to Wisconsin







VP candidate Ryan returns to Wisconsin to adoring crowd - m.JSOnline.com


Nice to see, eh?

Tomorrows republicans will know the meaning of the social contract.
Todays are an endangered species, to be cherished and archived.

^Not my idea of a charismatic species. The sooner they go the way of the Great Auk, the better.

that Ryan dude looks like a snake,

a perfect choice for Romney and friends,

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Who better to do it that than Romney who made his name as a turnaround artist.

I'm afraid I fail to see where you define him as a "turnaround artist". Remember his "turnaround" of the Games, where :

"Mitt Romney said he would have been unable to host the 2002 Winter Olympic Games in Salt Lake City, Utah, had it not been for the "enormous spending and services of the federal government."

Link

He's otherwise renowned for asset stripping and outsourcing jobs overseas in order to profit from takeovers.

I hardly think asset stripping is something that would aid the US economic recovery right now, it would be more akin to robbing Peter to pay Paul (or in this case, Wen Jiabao).

Originally Posted by sabang

Tomorrows republicans will know the meaning of the social contract.
Todays are an endangered species, to be cherished and archived.

Social contract???

How 'bout the 'social contract' Obama took out with America?

The food stamp president indeed...the Dr. Kevorkian of job creation...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The food stamp president indeed...the Dr. Kevorkian of job creation...

When Obama took office the US economy was bleeding jobs at the rate of something like ~600,000 a month.



January job loss: Worst in 34 years - Feb. 6, 2009

By November 2009 that had eased off a bit:



November jobs report shows big improvement - Dec. 4, 2009


And now the US is close to 42 straight months of private sector job growth, the pretty graph has been posted many times so I'm not going to repost it. How does that make Obama Kevorkian? It would seem to be the opposite of your assertion actually..

This is interesting, Romney seems to be running away from Ryan's world-famous budget now:

Cheered by the biggest crowds of his campaign, Republican Mitt Romney declared Sunday that 42-year-old running mate Paul Ryan is ready to be president, but said his own budget plan, not the more detailed proposals of his partner, will be the basis of his White House bid.
"I have my budget plan," he said. "And that's the budget plan we're going to run on."

Romney Seeks Distance From Ryan's Budget Plans - ABC News

That didn't take long..

Things that we can't talk about:

Romney's business experience at Bain
Romney's record as Governor of MA
Romney's record on health care
Romney's record on gay rights
Romney's record on gun control
Romney's religion
Romney's tax returns
Romney's tenure with the SLC Olympics

Ryan's congressional voting record
Ryan's budget proposals

What's next? After all his years in Congress Ryan has 2 (TWO!) bills passed and one of those was a tax on arrows and the other was a post office name. 12 years and that's all he's got?

Rep. Paul Ryan Passed Two Bills During 13 Years As Congressman | Mediaite

Originally Posted by Norton

You gotta be kidding.

For extra lulz the post office that Ryan got renamed was for a democratic Sec. Def under Clinton!

Originally Posted by raycarey

we can thank paul ryan for voting to add $3,500,000,000,000 to the US deficit.

He did but did Obama also vote yea on any of those. I'm sure not the Iraq war because he wasn't senator yet.

^ i was pointing out the ridiculousness of ryan holding himself up to be a deficit hawk.

it's simply not true. his voting record proves it.

but i really don't think this is going to matter too much...

ryan is going to have a very difficult time explaining his voucher plan to senior citizens in florida and why he's against rape victims being allowed to have abortions to women all over the country.

good luck with both of those.