Thread: Mitt Romney

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Republican spokesmen for a rising "DUMP ROMNEY" rebellion today charged that Mitt Romney is "hiding Bain abortion profits in his tax returns" from investments that "would make Herod blush."

that's interesting.....and there's only one way to know if it's true or not:

release your tax returns, willard.

just like your father did....and said every candidate should do.


btw, i'm getting the feeling that even establishment republicans are beginning to think that this is just about over. we're two months out and romney is the odds on favorite in only one of the swing states (NC)...and the president has taken two states off the table (PA and MI) and is up by several points in most of the others.

if the president crushes romney in the first debate, i think we'll see the GOP move even more towards a 'scorched earth' campaign in which they throw anything and everything real or imagined at the wall in hopes that something will stick--knowing full well it won't stop the president from winning another term, but it will possibly weaken his mandate.

to me, as an interested bystander, Romney seems to be one of those politicians that will say anything in his attempt to get power

anyone who believes anything he says may well have a rude awakening if he does get elected

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Well, we've already had that 'rude awakening' with Obama, haven't we? In fact it's even got a name: Liberal White Guilt Buyers Remorse.

Obama has not been too effective at getting the US out of the Bush/Bankers mess, but I doubt if anyone could have done better

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Liberal White Guilt Buyers Remorse

As you can see DrA, the near fait accompli of Obama's re-election has more to do with the nature of the Opposition than any particular accomplishment Obama can lay claim to.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Obama has not been too effective at getting the US out of the Bush/Bankers mess, but I doubt if anyone could have done better

the GOP message is essentially, "you didn't clean up our mess fast enough, so give us the reins again"

^^ and ^

true, too true

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Obama has not been too effective at getting the US out of the Bush/Bankers mess, but I doubt if anyone could have done better

That's correct, he hasn't been too effective at anything but blaming others for his failings. Can't keep heaping it on Bush for the rest of all time. Obama owns this miserable unemployment rate etc.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

America is not in safe hands with Obama in Big White.

what happened when a republican was in office

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You forgot about the bit where Bubba fired Thomahawks into empty camel tents to take attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Albright et. al. had their chance on OBL but blew it.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Mitt Romney talking about Obama's disgraceful show w/regard to the Cairo Embassy and Bengazi Consulate:

“I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

Indeed but what can you expect from a guy who has never had a real job in his life other than a community agitator? America is not in safe hands with Obama in Big White.

Romney makes a desperate and pathetic attempt to shore up his tough guy image but it won't fly with the American public. Shameful.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/248787-gallup-poll-finds-obama-opening-up-6-point-lead-post-convention

President Obama received a modest bounce out of the Democratic National Convention and now leads Mitt Romney by 6 percentage points, according to the latest Gallup poll released on Tuesday....
The Gallup survey also shows the president seeing gains in his approval rating, hitting the important 50 percent mark after languishing around 45 percent before the convention....

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Romney's correct stance is certain to resonate better than Obama's State Department's pathetic apology:

Dear Egyptian mob ransacking our embassy: We're sorry we hurt your "religious feelings."

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

You forgot about the bit where Bubba fired Thomahawks into empty camel tents to take attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Albright et. al. had their chance on OBL but blew it.

"We never made the case or argued the case that somehow Osama Bin Laden was behind 9-11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."

--Vice President Dick Cheney
The Tony Snow Show March 29, 2006

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Bottom line is that Clinton himself passed up numerous opportunities to kill or capture bin Laden prior to leaving the White House in January 2001

read and weep

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

"We never made the case or argued the case that somehow Osama Bin Laden was behind 9-11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."

--Vice President Dick Cheney
The Tony Snow Show March 29, 2006

guibian corholla,

Please expand on this quote from Cheney.

Woudn't an investigative journalist - or any journalist - pounced on this, and made it more known if it were true?

Not challenging you, nor this quote - I just want and need more info on it.

the romney campaign is desperate, and that desperation is causing them to make unforced errors.

Last night after 10:00 pm ET, Romney released a statement on the attacks on the U.S. embassies in Egypt and Libya. After saying he was “outraged” by these attacks and the death of an American consulate worker, Romney said, “It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” Yet after learning every piece of new information about those the attacks, the Romney statement looks worse and worse -- and simply off-key. First, Romney was referring to a statement that the U.S. embassy in Egypt issued condemning the “efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” But that embassy statement, which the White House has distanced itself from, was in reference to an anti-Islam movie and anti-Islam pastor Terry Jones, and it came out BEFORE the embassy attacks began. Then this morning, we learned that the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and others died in one of the attacks.

Bottom line: This was news-cycle campaigning by the Romney campaign gone awry. Why didn’t the Romney campaign wait until it had all the facts? On his overseas trip in the summer, Romney was so careful not to criticize Obama while on foreign soil. But how much time do you give an administration to work through a diplomatic and international crisis before trying to score immediate political points? You’d expect the Sarah Palins of the world to quickly pounce on something like this, and she predictably did. But a presidential nominee running for the highest office in the land? After the facts have come out, last night’s Romney statement only feeds the narrative that his campaign is desperate. And given that the Romney camp has already moved on to other subjects this morning -- issuing a press release on debt and not the embassy attacks -- it appears the campaign realizes it, too.

Insta-consensus: Mitt statement a blunder - POLITICO.com

time and again, the romney campaign is proving that willard just isn't ready for the job.

Willard is a competent bloke, although his best talents are not as a politician. He was considered the most plausible face to sell the neo-'republican' platform, and it is this the voters are rejecting. Whilst he may well end up looking like a stooge, consider the other stooges he was up against.

Well, it can't get any lower than this - Dead Ambassador dragged through streets, MSM furious at Romney criticism of Obama.

The Lamestream media regard Obama with the devotion that Mohammadins grant to the Koran. Any criticism and they’re out for blood. Pathetic.

The typical bullying neocon response to a tragedy before all the facts are in. The have a tendency to knock over a few chairs and throw punches and leave others to clean up after them. Obama was right - Romney tends to shoot first and aim later.

Originally Posted by Humbert

The typical bullying neocon response to a tragedy before all the facts are in. The have a tendency to knock over a few chairs and throw punches and leave others to clean up after them. Obama was right - Romney tends to shoot first and aim later.

All the facts? What color is the sky above the planet you're living on, Bert?

How 'bout this fact:



You gotta stop getting your 'news' from those hacks:

Ace of Spades, NRO destroy ‘real journalists’ covering for Obama at Romney foreign policy presser.

Try just a modicum of Objectivity once an a while, eh?

Romney is beginning to implode. Wait till we get to the debates.

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Will Romney's Foreign-Policy Fumble Doom His Campaign?

By Molly Ball

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Sep 12 2012, 1:36 PM ET 578 As Republicans and Democrats alike judge his response to the embassy attacks harshly, this could be a turning point.

Reuters

Will Mitt Romney look back on this day as the blunder that doomed his campaign?
It's too soon to tell, of course. But the reaction to his recent foreign-policy moves has been overwhelmingly negative, from Republicans and Democrats alike, to the point that some wonder whether it could begin to disqualify him in voters' minds.
Romney's response to the incidents of the last 24 hours -- the storming of the American embassy in Cairo and the killing of the American ambassador and three others in Libya -- is widely being regarded as hasty and ham-handed. From his initial statement late Tuesday, which accused the Obama Administration of "sympathiz[ing] with those who waged the attacks," to his Wednesday morning press conference reinforcing that criticism, Romney, critics say, appeared overly eager to turn the tragedy into a political wedge, and insufficiently respectful of the gravity of the situation.
"I think it's a terrible course for America to stand in apology for our values," Romney said at a news conference in Jacksonville, some 12 hours after his initial statement. (Here's a useful chronology of the various events and statements.) "When our grounds are being attacked and being breached, the first response of the United States must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation."
As Romney himself noted moments later, this is a presidential campaign, and everything is fair game, especially when events provide the candidates with opportunities to air their honest differences in ways that can be illuminating to the electorate. But his comments struck a sour note in light of the fact that the Egyptian embassy's statement condemning those who would attempt "to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims" had long since been disavowed by the administration.
Romney was undeterred, saying the president is responsible for statements from embassies, and that the White House's distancing itself from the statement only "reflect[ed] the mixed signals they're sending to the world." It seemed no matter what the administration did, Romney would find fault with it, and his fixation on doing so seemed to overshadow his stated concern for the lives lost in the attacks. (The Romney campaign's rationale for the tough tone was that it needed to seize the offensive on a pressing national issue.)
The pundits' judgment was harsh. Time's Mark Halperin said Romney's "doubling down on criticism of the President for the statement coming out of Cairo is likely to be seen as one of the most craven and ill-advised tactical moves in this entire campaign." A senior Republican told BuzzFeed's Ben Smith it was Romney's "Lehman moment," a reference to John McCain's hasty reaction to the 2008 financial crisis -- a turning point in the last presidential campaign. Conservative pundit Matt Lewis wrote in the Daily Caller, "The problem with Mitt Romney continues to be Mitt Romney," comparing his reaction to the way Michael Dukakis was parodied as "weak and passionless" on Saturday Night Live. On Fox News, conservative commentator and Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan said, "In times of great drama and heightened crisis ... I always think discretion is the better way to go," saying Romney was leaving himself open to accusations of politicizing a tragedy. "I don't feel that Mr. Romney has been doing himself any favors in the past few hours," she said. Though Romney had his defenders as well, the gelling consensus was clearly against him.
Foreign policy has always been a tough spot for Romney. He has to contend with both Obama's perceived strength on the issue -- 58 percent approve of the president's handling of terrorism, according to Gallup -- and his own party's internal divisions on international affairs. His stances on foreign issues have frequently been muddled, from his shifting position on Libya to his sometimes confusing criticism of the administration's Afghanistan policy.
Romney would prefer to downplay foreign policy and focus on the economy instead, but Democrats have already shown they're not going to let him: Witness John Kerry's brutal speech at last week's Democratic convention, in which he called Romney and vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan "the most inexperienced foreign-policy twosome to run for president and vice president in decades." Or look at the attacks Democrats have recently mounted over Romney's failure to mention Afghanistan during his Republican convention address -- and his clumsy response, in a Fox News interview: "You talk about the things that you think are important."

Originally Posted by aging one

Will Mitt Romney look back on this day as the blunder that doomed his campaign?

Barring a miracle, his campaign is already doomed. Nobody really knows where Willard stands on anything (not even himself). The GOP might as well program Max Headroom and run him for President- at least he wouldn't come out with any embarrassing gaffes.

Doesn't get any more lame than this. At 11:53pm last night Talking Points Memo released a statement from the Obama campaign condemning Mitt Romney for criticizing something the White House itself disavowed -- an appalling apology issued by the State Department.

With Obama and the Democrats it's really an alternative dimension. Up is down and you're a racist if you criticize this Indonesian Imbecile...