Thread: iPAD vs Tablet PC: Forget the iPAD

Mea Culpa. I assumed being in this thread that you were looking at 10-12" screen mobile computing devices.

I love my ASUS eee PC 1000, best travelling machine I've ever had. Just got to get around to fixing Meego to dual boot with Windows 7 and I'll be very happy.

Originally Posted by Dug

I just had a quick look at Mr Freds review and if it's true that is doesn't have USB connectivity that would kill it for me.
My video and still camera would require a USB for me to lphotos to send by email.
Does it have a built in camera? if not how is one expected to load Photographs onto it except from a phone camera by blue tooth. And only an Iphone at that as I believe inter connectivity (devices other than apple) is an issue.
It's a couple of years since I bought my camera so maybe cameras now come equipped with bluetooth.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

You can plug your camera into iPad using the USB port & the camera connection kit. Works just fine, as that's what I do when I want to offload or transfer images from my camera.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You can buy an expensive add-on to plug in a USB device, but it sort of needs to be recognised to be of any use.

Could you explain what you are trying to say with that sentence, as it makes absolutely no sense to anyone familiar with iPad.

Originally Posted by Dug

For on the move stuff I also have a nifty little device that does everything.

You mean "...everything you need", right, because the Nokia phone certainly does not do *everything*.

Originally Posted by chupacabra

^

Your suggestion that all Flash content on the internet is just for advertisements is absolutely ridiculous.

Name three sites where you need Flash, that's not either YouTube or another video site.

I admit I am really biased on the topic though - I've hated Flash long before any iDevices came out. Now that YouTube and others are switching their video to HTML5 wholesale, it's got to go.

Could you explain what you are trying to say with that sentence, as it makes absolutely no sense to anyone familiar with iPad.

One word. OK, no words.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Of course you did, Nikster, which is fine if you don't want to do all the things you want to do on a $300 Netbook. You stick with your style, I prefer substance.

I was answering your false suggestions about the iPad price and screen size.

I don't actually want to do anything on a $300 piece of plastic, thanks. I have a laptop that can do everything I need to do on a laptop a lot better. The iPad is complementary.

Originally Posted by nikster

Originally Posted by chupacabra

^

Your suggestion that all Flash content on the internet is just for advertisements is absolutely ridiculous.

Name three sites where you need Flash, that's not either YouTube or another video site.

I admit I am really biased on the topic though - I've hated Flash long before any iDevices came out. Now that YouTube and others are switching their video to HTML5 wholesale, it's got to go.

I quite like this one:

iGIZMO 45 : iGIZMO

I could probably find you dozens more but I don't have a device that blocks sites I want to watch because the guvnor doesn't like them. Ergo I don't have to care whether they use Flash or not, which is the whole point.

Out of interest, does that site work in Safari? I haven't installed that either, because I don't want constant reminders that I really ought to have shitty Quicktime or the pig's arse that is known as iTunes.

Originally Posted by nikster

Name three sites where you need Flash, that's not either YouTube or another video site.
.

BBC news and the games on this forum come to mind without even thinking.
Of course it's easy to move the goalposts and say "No video sites" but the fact is you can't watch a video on that bag of junk and that limits it's use.

MSI make the Wind netbook that I'm using. It was the best of it's type at the time of purchase and still performs perfectly well.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Could you explain what you are trying to say with that sentence, as it makes absolutely no sense to anyone familiar with iPad.

One word. OK, no words.

Cute.

Of course, without explaining what 'device' you plugged in, this screenshot is worthless.

So, if you are interested in making an intelligent contribution to this thread, substantiate your claims.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

explaining what 'device' you plugged in

it was a USB enabled "roll neck sweater" , something that should have fully been expected to "just work".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I quite like this one:

iGIZMO 45 : iGIZMO

Oh wow, a site chock full of ads. Well, whatever floats your boat....

Kinda funny that iGizmo's grand prize bundle is an iPad and £800 worth of iTunes gift card. (btw, keep that thought^)

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I could probably find you dozens more but I don't have a device that blocks sites I want to watch because the guvnor doesn't like them. Ergo I don't have to care whether they use Flash or not, which is the whole point.

Cute way of backing out of that one -- it's quite obvious, and you know it too, which sites are Flash based and which are not. Face it, you don't know of any others, and you were hard pressed finding this one.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Out of interest, does that site work in Safari?

Of course it works in Safari - why should it not?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I haven't installed that either

Either.... what?

Either Safari, or Safari?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

because I don't want constant reminders that I really ought to have shitty Quicktime or the pig's arse that is known as iTunes.

Why would Safari, a web browser, give you constant reminders for QuickTime or for iTunes?

All you've just done is demonstrate that you argue from a position of both ignorance and inexperience, yet making sweeping assumptive generalizations based on your ignorance.

Why should anyone lend any credence to anything you have to say? Even your frothing over various Android products is solely based on regurgitations of specs you read, not any actual experience.

Basically, you're one of those tech luddites, that knows a little, and thinks he knows a lot, but who essentially just repeats and regurgitates.

I'm sure you *could* have the potential to engage in an intelligent debate, but so far you are simply exhibiting typical laziness. Oh well, it could be worse -- you could be Chupacabra, who is completely clueless, and has absolutely no technical background, experience, or knowledge.

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

explaining what 'device' you plugged in

it was a USB enabled "roll neck sweater" , something that should have fully been expected to "just work".

ROTFLOL!

Originally Posted by mr Fred

BBC news

Odd, I'm watching BBC news site on my iPad just fine. I'd watch the video, but the BBC news doesn't allow the video to be available in my region.

Originally Posted by mr Fred

BBC news and the games on this forum come to mind without even thinking.

I don't play games, and I consider them a waste of time, but I understand that's important to people like yourself.

Originally Posted by mr Fred

Of course it's easy to move the goalposts and say "No video sites" but the fact is you can't watch a video on that bag of junk and that limits it's use.

You can't? Really? How do you claim that?

I've got no problems watching YouTube, or Vimeo, CollegeHumor, DailyMotion, NBC (videos), etc.... and the videos (because they are all H.264) look tons better than Flash based videos.

So, what videos can't you watch on that bag of junk? Maybe you could explain, or better yet, provide a list...?

Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife

MSI make the Wind netbook that I'm using. It was the best of it's type at the time of purchase and still performs perfectly well.

I have to agree, I have the MSI Wind as well, and it's still a great little netbook. Runs Mac OS X nearly perfectly :-)

Originally Posted by nikster

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Of course you did, Nikster, which is fine if you don't want to do all the things you want to do on a $300 Netbook. You stick with your style, I prefer substance.

I was answering your false suggestions about the iPad price and screen size.

I don't actually want to do anything on a $300 piece of plastic, thanks. I have a laptop that can do everything I need to do on a laptop a lot better. The iPad is complementary.

Exactly - I have yet to see HarryBarracuda's list of things of substance he claims he can do on the netbook.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by nikster

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Of course you did, Nikster, which is fine if you don't want to do all the things you want to do on a $300 Netbook. You stick with your style, I prefer substance.

I was answering your false suggestions about the iPad price and screen size.

I don't actually want to do anything on a $300 piece of plastic, thanks. I have a laptop that can do everything I need to do on a laptop a lot better. The iPad is complementary.

Exactly - I have yet to see HarryBarracuda's list of things of substance he claims he can do on the netbook.

I keep on talking about syncing my phones and you keep on ignoring it.

You yourself keep mentioning Skype video.

Excludes Flash.

No useful access to the file system.

Can't be upgraded.

No replaceable battery.

No direct print capability.

All which have been mentioned before and which don't do it for me, but which you inexplicably seem happy to do without.

Why do you get so offended that the iPad is a limited device, and you can get something cheaper that does a better job?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why do you get so offended that the iPad is a limited device, and you can get something cheaper that does a better job?

because that is simply not true?


btw:
complaining about flash is like crying that your car can not drive with burning wood in the luggage space.
"wood is everywhere, why can I not use it to powering my car??"
flash is obviously shit and should not be supported.

a lot of good arguments why the ipad is not the pad for everyone, but this complaining about flash is bullshit.

got to congratulate apple for stopping supporting Flash, it is quite an evil piece of software

I guess Flash is one of those necessary evils.

But if you have adblock and noscript why would you care?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

All which have been mentioned before and which don't do it for me, but which you inexplicably seem happy to do without.

Why is it so inexplicable to you that people have different needs, different priorities, different ways of doing things, and different financial means than you?

You seem to live in a world where everything must be exactly as you want it, and everyone MUST like and use the same tools.

I keep saying that if these things you listed above are important to you, and clearly they are, you are best served with a netbook, or a laptop. Knock yourself out.

Yet, that doesn't seem good enough for you. Are you that insecure that you require everyone to 'be like you', unable to acknowledge that other people are able and capable to use products and technologies that are better than yours?

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

All which have been mentioned before and which don't do it for me, but which you inexplicably seem happy to do without.

Why is it so inexplicable to you that people have different needs, different priorities, different ways of doing things, and different financial means than you?

You seem to live in a world where everything must be exactly as you want it, and everyone MUST like and use the same tools.

I keep saying that if these things you listed above are important to you, and clearly they are, you are best served with a netbook, or a laptop. Knock yourself out.

Yet, that doesn't seem good enough for you. Are you that insecure that you require everyone to 'be like you', unable to acknowledge that other people are able and capable to use products and technologies that are better than yours?

I fail to understand why merely pointing out the deficiencies in a product is being "insecure"?

I've already complimented Jobs on injecting new life into a sagging market, and I'm looking forward to a whole load of new Windows, Android, Linux et al tablet PCs hitting the market DIRECTLY as a result of the iPad.

And no, the iPad isn't good enough for me.

Let me clarify: affordable, certainly, but next to useless to me.

And judging by the fact that Netbooks shift about 10million a quarter, I'm obviously not the only one.

A first look at Meego 1.1 for tablets...