Thread: iPAD vs Tablet PC: Forget the iPAD

Originally Posted by mr Fred

I suspect you may be wrong on that issue.

He will see what you write if somebody who is *not* on his ignore list quotes it. Any posts you make will just show as the "This message is hidden.." thing, no matter who you quote.

iPad gives Apple 11.5% of Japanese portable computing

Right up there with Pebble Pets and kiddie bondage porn then.

"If the tablet is counted as a computer".

On the basis of functionality, I count any one of my smartphones "as a computer".

It's still a giant iPhone. Sorry, iPod Touch.

Originally Posted by slackula

Originally Posted by mr Fred

I suspect you may be wrong on that issue.

He will see what you write if somebody who is *not* on his ignore list quotes it. Any posts you make will just show as the "This message is hidden.." thing, no matter who you quote.

Are you kidding me? You have to keep explaining this to him?

Seriously?

Is that how dumb this dolt is?

...and I'm the Daffy one?

Duckhead will be apoplectic. Every ten minutes or so, Sky News are reporting "The FBI are investigating a security breach involving the Apple iPad"!

I was going to add there is another problem with the ipad. I was led to understand it was hard work printing anything from it but I would have been wrong.
It seems there is an easy way after all.

It is an big iPod and a lot of features are missin BUT if I use it a bit and go back to my laptop, I feel like back in time. What a crap to use a mouse to move an arrow on an application to open it instead of one touch with my finger.
The power is its operability and nothing else. But that is enough. The sales figures speaks for themselves.
And thats where the competitors failed.

Originally Posted by Reniak

It is an big iPod and a lot of features are missin BUT if I use it a bit and go back to my laptop, I feel like back in time. What a crap to use a mouse to move an arrow on an application to open it instead of one touch with my finger.

Just use the fingerpad then.

Originally Posted by slackula

Originally Posted by mr Fred

I suspect you may be wrong on that issue.

He will see what you write if somebody who is *not* on his ignore list quotes it. Any posts you make will just show as the "This message is hidden.." thing, no matter who you quote.

I was hoping he would slip up. I did that on another forum and the bloke answered.

Originally Posted by Reniak

It is an big iPod and a lot of features are missin BUT if I use it a bit and go back to my laptop, I feel like back in time. What a crap to use a mouse to move an arrow on an application to open it instead of one touch with my finger.
The power is its operability and nothing else. But that is enough. The sales figures speaks for themselves.
And thats where the competitors failed.

Indeed!

Originally Posted by Reniak

. The sales figures speaks for themselves.
And thats where the competitors failed.

That just means Apple is better at conning people.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It hasn't got any competitors.

And ? What's the point ?

It's the first device of this kind who sale one every 3 seconds, not bad isn't it ?

Ever had one in your hand more than a few minutes in a store ?

Pathetic Apple basher.

Originally Posted by Wallalai

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It hasn't got any competitors.

And ? What's the point ?

It's the first device of this kind who sale one every 3 seconds, not bad isn't it ?

Ever had one in your hand more than a few minutes in a store ?

Pathetic Apple basher.

Only an observation, Wallalai. No need to stamp your Jimmy Choos.

The threadtitle suggest there are some.

Originally Posted by Reniak

The threadtitle suggest there are some.

I think it's a bit like comparing apples with oranges.

The iPad isn't a tablet PC, really.

The nearest PC device is probably the HP Slate and no-one yet knows what that's going to be.

https://h30406.www3.hp.com/campaigns...HPSL/index.php

I also mentioned the ASUS that was announced the other day, but that won't be out until 1Q11 apparently, so for now the iPad is the only device in its class.

That's probably why it's so easy to say it's the No. 1 as well.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The iPad isn't a tablet PC, really.

Hunh?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The nearest PC device is probably the HP Slate and no-one yet knows what that's going to be.

And the best bike is the Kayamahonzuki but no-one yet knows what that's going to be. The fact is that Apple is the first company to release a tablet with thousands of apps already available.

Yes, Wallalai, very true. It's rumoured that HP are going to try and put WebOS on their new toy, and I don't think their app store is rumoured to be anything impressive.

I'll be interested to see where Nokia go with Meego, no-one seems to be talking about that; Android is mature enough now, and I've had it running on a PC, although it needs a lot of knocking into shape.

So I'll repeat - Apple have no real competition to the iPad at the moment. Gartner reckon 10.5 million "tablet" devices will sell this year, and most of them will be iPads, because it sounds as if there's nothing else ready for the 2010 holiday season.

Originally Posted by Wallalai

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It hasn't got any competitors.

And ? What's the point ?
It's the first device of this kind who sale one every 3 seconds, not bad isn't it ?
Ever had one in your hand more than a few minutes in a store ?
Pathetic Apple basher.

I can bet you that these guys, particularly Barracuda, only saw pictures of iPad, never seen one up close, and never touched or used one -- Reniak gave the best description of the experience (and I thank him for it). All Barracuda and Fred are doing when I still looked at their spoutings was to compare specs and talk based on raw specs, which is pointless - and they are apparently not satisfied realizing that the device is not for them, as I pointed out, and that a laptop serves them better, and they should stick with it. Their life is apparently not complete until they justify their small-mindedness by tearing down products they have absolutely no clue about - which is why they are on ignore on my end. Would actually be nicer if the ignore function was reciprocal, as that would cut down on the disruptive effect of these kind of morons.

Originally Posted by slackula

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The iPad isn't a tablet PC, really.

Hunh?

When losing the argument.... move the goalposts.

Originally Posted by Wallalai

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The nearest PC device is probably the HP Slate and no-one yet knows what that's going to be.

And the best bike is the Kayamahonzuki but no-one yet knows what that's going to be. The fact is that Apple is the first company to release a tablet with thousands of apps already available.

The fact is that Apple is the first company to release a tablet that sells well out of the gate. In the entire lifetime of the Tablet PC, they only ever sold a total of 20,000 devices -- that's for all manufacturers combined, over the course of 10 years. Impressive.

The hp Slate? The one that was cancelled a week ago? Oh yeah, that'll be competition.

Realistically, hp has the best chance to offer serious competition to Apple, now that they have webOS from Palm -- but equally realistically, hp has a long history of spending tons of money, and screwing up when they are given a market, and judging by how Palm is bleeding executives and engineers since the acquisition, it looks to me like that'll be an uphill battle for Palm. Android's a mess amongst manufacturers, and Google is hardly taking a stringent leadership role in that mess, so it's doubtful that anything significant will materialize before 2-3 years. All each Android manufacturer throws out are specs, yet with no software to support those specs, it's of little use.

Android does multitasking ("ooooh aaaah") - badly. You need a separate tool to quit apps, to save your battery life. I've been running iOS4 on my iPhone 3GS over the past month, and have seen no appreciable battery life changes while running 20 apps simultaneously.

There's a difference between offering a feature, and doing it right.

Similarly with the camera -- so far, every competitor claims more megapixels than the 3GS camera, yet the 3GS consistently takes better pictures with its 'measly' 3.2megapixel camera - because Apple doesn't just slap a camera on iPhone, but pays attention to the entire subsystem and particularly the image processing software. (3GS streams 30fps when you take a picture, and buffers the actual image - so when you hit the shutter, it takes the actual picture you saw, by grabbing it from the buffer 1/4 second earlier. Ingenious.)

Yeah, it's not specs - it's how they are used. Something that Mesrs Barracuda, Fred and Marmite hardly understand.

Yeah, it's not specs - it's how they are used. Something that Mesrs Barracuda, Fred and Marmite hardly understand.

Strange how you talk about moving goalposts and then start telling us about your iPhone camera <?>

It's not (just) about specs, it's about functionality. PC's have more than iPads.

That obviously frustrates you, but you'll have to learn to live with it.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yeah, it's not specs - it's how they are used. Something that Mesrs Barracuda, Fred and Marmite hardly understand.

Strange how you talk about moving goalposts and then start telling us about your iPhone camera <?>

It's not (just) about specs, it's about functionality. PC's have more than iPads.

That obviously frustrates you, but you'll have to learn to live with it.

I was corrected on a UK forum about ipads. It seems people don't buy them for what they do but because they are "Groovy".
Perhaps Apple should give a free pair of flared jeans away with their unit.
That way the ipad users won't have tired arms and a sore larynx.































They won't have to wave their ipads above their heads discretely saying (In a loud voice) they have just downloaded a new itune and by the way aren't I trendy because they will be so easy to spot tripping up over their trousers instead of their computers..

I wouldn't mind the inferior specs of the iPhone or iPad, as long as they look pretty

for me the biggest problem is the need to use that POS iTunes to upload or do anything to communicate with the "outside" world, it's really a pain.

The iPhone is really pretty and elegant, and I wouldn't mind having one as a toy or jewelry.

This is the only reason I bought the Mac-mini too. Looks nice.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

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for me the biggest problem is the need to use that POS iTunes to upload or do anything to communicate with the "outside" world, it's really a pain.

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For real! Tried iphonebrowser, copytrans or senuti?
makeuseof.com by Mobify
...but with most of them you need itunes on your pc anyway.

I love Apple products for one main reason: they make the self proclaimed hardcorepoweruser!!! types froth with incomprehension at the success of the products.

You have to love people (preferably from a distance) who cannot comprehend that someone *doesn’t* want to run a Python interpreter (or plug in a floppy drive) on their phone. (For the non-technical: no, a Python interpreter is not a parseltongue translator App.)