Thread: iPAD vs Tablet PC: Forget the iPAD

My mistake Harry, I didn't realize this was an ipad vs. windows tablet thing. I just assumed it was Android, strike all my comments.

Though I now wonder... Why are we comparing Windows to a stripped down operating system of the ipad? That is not apples to apples or a fair comparison. If we are comparing mobile OS's would not the fair comparison be ipad to any windows mobile OS tablet device? Do any exist outside the phone realm? The tabs being compared here are running a full blown Windows 7, not Windows Mobile. Or is that the comparison being sought? Not a fair one in my eyes, again not a fanboy by any means just not apples to apples in my eyes as far as the OS is concerned.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

As a professional I have nothing but contempt for the user.

damn, didn't take you for a level 1 support guy

actually couldn't agree more, having work as a level 1 admin when I was younger, I hate those fucking clueless users

they should all be shot

Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan

The viewsonic was a FAIL right out the gate, if you were referring to the Gtab. Massive recalls all across all major US retailers. The HP is the mystery that still after 2 years has yet to surface. The Xoom looks promising, but a hefty price tag for a device that no reviews have said will out preform the funtionality or battery life of the current industry leader. I am closely watching the Xoom, I want one.

the iPad is by far leading the fag game, they have no competition

The iPad is completely ridiculous, as if the iPhone wasn't bad enough - the iPad is a giant version of the iPhone, the only other main difference is that it can't make phone calls. I wish it could, that would be an amusing sight!

This thread actually died for a long time, mainly due to Android tablets either being complete crap (1.6 or 2.0) or just vapourware.

Now that a year has passed and a few alternatives have started to creep into the market, it is generating a bit of interest.

I like the Viewsonic because I like the idea of the consumer side apps of Android and the work crap I have to carry that lives on Windows residing in the same box.

I wasn't paying much attention to MWC, but there are new tablets from Samsung, HTC, and Toshiba in addition to the ASUS.

HTC Flyer

Toshiba 10.1"

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1"

Toshiba 11"

The EP121 looks good, but what's the realistic battery life?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The EP121 looks good, but what's the realistic battery life?

The worst report I've seen was just under 3 hours for someone watching 1080i video- the average seems to be between 3.5-4 hours (with the best cases approaching 5 hours- that's with the screen brightness turned down and bluetooth turned off)- that's plenty of time for me, but it doesn't approach what you can get out of some other tablets.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The EP121 looks good, but what's the realistic battery life?

The worst report I've seen was just under 3 hours for someone watching 1080i video- the average seems to be between 3.5-4 hours (with the best cases approaching 5 hours- that's with the screen brightness turned down and bluetooth turned off)- that's plenty of time for me, but it doesn't approach what you can get out of some other tablets.

That's one downside of this gizmo: No replaceable battery, otherwise you could just buy a spare for those long flights where no power socket is available.

Ouch, and I was going to say put an SSD in to extend the battery life, but I see it's already got one.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I think they're all fairly cool but I'm still convinced that most of the functions of the toys are pretty useless. You've got to remember that most of the people who invented them were inspired by Star Trek, not by any desire to make people's lives better.

in a nutshell,

Originally Posted by DrB0b

All those people who get over-excited by every new consumer gizmo are basically being manipulated by weirdos who dress up as Klingons at the weekend.

quite sad, isn't it ? most people are pathetic and need an iPad or iPhone to fullfil their meaningless life

quite sad, isn't it ? most people are pathetic and need an iPad or iPhone to fullfil their meaningless life

Come on then Butters, does it work?

I guess the world I live and work in is different from others. A single Rolodex on one person's desk is not acceptable here. A phone with a 200 contact memory will not cut it. Email only when I am attached to a LAN cable at the office will not do. Marketing is not based on word of mouth alone but on Adwords, blogger's, online reviews and who can communicate the fastest. Post-it Notes for information passing is considered an archaic and unreliable means of communication that is not fast enough anymore. Waiting for a bank statement to arrive in the mail is something only senior citizens do. Many times a brick and mortar storefront is now considered a serious waste of resources that could easily be put to better use elsewhere. Garage sale hosts can even accept credit cards in the front yard on these useless gadgets. Depositing a check from your mobile phone's camera prior to signing the title to the car you just sold over happens all the time now.

The smart people (not me but those who hand the programs, devices, training and tools to do it) are those that can take the ancient technology from 10-20 years back and integrate it into their useless gadget toys. Such as faxing an invoice to the client from your son's football game from your smartphone, eliminating the frivolous task of making that last stop at the office. Or the person who gets their voicemail from the PBX system delivered to them rather than having to check it at their desk or even dial into the "access line" and enter their PIN. Or those that have the follow me service automatically forwarding the important call from your daughter's school on your office line, your home line, your personal mobile and the company mobile when you are on your way to the meeting. How about the bad week when you forgot to cover payroll and you can log in with your ipad and move money from your administrative account to your human resources account while sitting in the traffic jam at 7pm after the banks have closed, thankfully getting done before the the last 4 checks have been cashed.

These useless gadgets are rapidly changing everyone and every business model. Nobody is forcing anyone to adapt, but simply because you or your company's are unable to keep up does not mean everyone who might be a few paces or even 10 years ahead is an obsessed fanboy trekkie freak. The mobile phone analogy is the perfect example and I still see people using 3310's when I go to Mexico or Cuba. That does not mean everyone using them is a technophobe, modern technology simply has no bearing on them and they see no use for it. My dad checks his email on Saturday mornings! Totally unacceptable in a business model. I wish my life could be that so simple that I had the option to ignore basic things like email. Perhaps some day it will, but that will not happen while I am working in this field.

Originally Posted by JoshuaInMukdahan

I guess the world I live and work in is different from others. A single Rolodex on one person's desk is not acceptable here. A phone with a 200 contact memory will not cut it. Email only when I am attached to a LAN cable at the office will not do. Marketing is not based on word of mouth alone but on Adwords, blogger's, online reviews and who can communicate the fastest. Post-it Notes for information passing is considered an archaic and unreliable means of communication that is not fast enough anymore. Waiting for a bank statement to arrive in the mail is something only senior citizens do. Many times a brick and mortar storefront is now considered a serious waste of resources that could easily be put to better use elsewhere. Garage sale hosts can even accept credit cards in the front yard on these useless gadgets. Depositing a check from your mobile phone's camera prior to signing the title to the car you just sold over happens all the time now.

The smart people (not me but those who hand the programs, devices, training and tools to do it) are those that can take the ancient technology from 10-20 years back and integrate it into their useless gadget toys. Such as faxing an invoice to the client from your son's football game from your smartphone, eliminating the frivolous task of making that last stop at the office. Or the person who gets their voicemail from the PBX system delivered to them rather than having to check it at their desk or even dial into the "access line" and enter their PIN. Or those that have the follow me service automatically forwarding the important call from your daughter's school on your office line, your home line, your personal mobile and the company mobile when you are on your way to the meeting. How about the bad week when you forgot to cover payroll and you can log in with your ipad and move money from your administrative account to your human resources account while sitting in the traffic jam at 7pm after the banks have closed, thankfully getting done before the the last 4 checks have been cashed.

These useless gadgets are rapidly changing everyone and every business model. Nobody is forcing anyone to adapt, but simply because you or your company's are unable to keep up does not mean everyone who might be a few paces or even 10 years ahead is an obsessed fanboy trekkie freak. The mobile phone analogy is the perfect example and I still see people using 3310's when I go to Mexico or Cuba. That does not mean everyone using them is a technophobe, modern technology simply has no bearing on them and they see no use for it. My dad checks his email on Saturday mornings! Totally unacceptable in a business model. I wish my life could be that so simple that I had the option to ignore basic things like email. Perhaps some day it will, but that will not happen while I am working in this field.

Some good points, but not everyone needs to be in contact with a client 24/7. Also, I can't imagine a designer (graphics, web, whatever) doing some serious work at the 'baseball game'.

I bought my phone on purpose. It's a phone, has no touch-screen and while it can do emails and surf the net, I'd rather not.

Each to their own.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I have some laptops, and smartphones, and various types of Pad somehwhere about. Mostly pretty old now

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I think they're all fairly cool but I'm still convinced that most of the functions of the toys are pretty useless

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I'm fkked if they find out that I'm now working for a little company in Thailand - no more freebies

So let me see, you like getting the latest stuff for free and own a pad and smart phone but anyone who buys it is a stupid, Bob you are a real wanker

The mobile phone analogy is the perfect example and I still see people using 3310's when I go to Mexico or Cuba. That does not mean everyone using them is a technophobe, modern technology simply has no bearing on them and they see no use for it.

You don't think there's an economic issue here then!?

Originally Posted by Rigger

So let me see, you like getting the latest stuff for free and own a pad and smart phone but anyone who buys it is a stupid

Yep. You got it. If you pay money for them you are a fool. If you get them for free then why not? If you can't see the difference between free and paid then you're the wanker, not just a wanker - a sucker. Actually I'd go further, how does it feel to be spit-roasted, rigger?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Yep. You got it. If you pay money for them you are a fool. If you get them for free then why not? If you can't see the difference between free and paid then you're the wanker, not just a wanker - a sucker. Actually I'd go further, how does it feel to be spit-roasted, rigger?

Sorry Bob the I pad was a free bee, so anyone with a new gen phone is a wanker now. Bob its pretty easy to see you are a tool only equiped with half a brain.

^Rigger, you're a nice guy but you don't have enough brain power to light up a half-watt bulb. Give it up. Go play with your toys, we grown-ups have better things to spend our time on.

Now children, play nicely

rigger is just a fairy and a bargirl with all those phone toys

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I bought my phone on purpose. It's a phone, has no touch-screen and while it can do emails and surf the net, I'd rather not.

A phone with a better interface might change your mind.

I had a Nokia that was a decent phone, and it could do emails/internet surfing, but it was kind of a pain to use, and I rarely bothered doing anything on the net with it- the current generation of smart phones has really raised the bar- they've become incredibly easy and convenient to use, and I find myself doing more on my phone now than I ever did before.

I certainly don't 'need' its capabilities, but they're nice to have when I want them.

I must admit they've fucked pub quizzes up big time. People no longer rely on their knowledge, they just hit wikipedia under the table.

So Smartphones are probably causing dumbness.

Why do people want to be in contact all the time? What's wrong with them that they can't bear to alone with themselves? This constant electronic communication is, after all, relatively new. It's hard to believe that people are dumb enough to voluntarily wear electronic collars and believe that working and being available 24 hours a day is actually a good thing. Tell people that they must be available to the boss and the office 24 hours a day and they'll whinge about slavery, give them a blackberry and tell them not to turn it off and they'll thank you for it. Suckers!