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    I think "someone in New York" (is that "someone called a genius in a New York Apple shop on his lunch break"?) is telling porkies. Another Appletard blogger perhaps? Do you have a source?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...condition=used

    The Kindle DX and the 6" 3G aren't so good however, but the 6" wifi seems to hold up well.

    Funnily enough, Amazon don't sell the iPad, so I had to look on ebay. I used the iPad 2 as the exemplar, the Fire isn't really a new device, is it?

    68 new from: $395.00
    131 used from: $300.00



    Although is this the flagship iPad?

    Apple iPad 64GB, Wi-Fi + 3G (Unlocked), 9.7in - Black (MC497LL/A)
    Buy new: $799.98 Save 4%
    6 new from: $799.98
    19 used from: $339.99


    More than 50%

    Just asking, like.



    Added: In fairness the 4G one is obviously going to last a while:

    Apple iPad 3rd Generation 64GB, Wi-Fi + 4G (AT&T), 9.7in - White (Latest Model)
    Buy new: $811.99
    32 new from: $779.00
    5 used from: $749.99


    Less than 5%

    Ipad 2:

    220 items available from all eBay sellers

    Apple iPad 2 16GB, Wi-Fi, 9.7in - White (MC979LL/A)

    Buy new: $425.99Save 15%
    68 new from: $395.00
    130 used from: $300.00

    nearly 25%, same as the Fire.

    No real story here then.
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    Don't think much of the nexus 7..... No SD slot? Ok, we expect that from Apple, but looks like google are going to try forcing people to stick their music, etc in 'the cloud'.... Which is all very well (if you trust google), but with many ISPs starting to impose bandwidth caps.... It ain't going to work.
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    As one commentator noted:

    Sure, it'd be useful to have a full size USB host port, microSD slot...5 GHz WiFi...or cellular, but the tablet wouldn't be $199 anymore.
    So it's of no interest to me.

    I mean the Novo 7 (which runs 4.0) has a MicroSD SD slot FFS and that's only $135.

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    ^ yep. Don't need 3G or 4G.... But having an SD slot & a rear facing camera would have added no more than 10$ to the price. Just more evidence that google is just interested in 'customers' data, not the customer.

    A rear facing camera may not seem that important (as you look a twat using a tablet as a camera), but it is very useful for augmented reality apps (and as that is something google we're promoting at the same release with google glass - seems very contradictory)

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    ^ I think it's meant to be a "Kindle Fire killer" as opposed to an "Apple killer".

    Now we wait and see if Apple do a 7" iFad in the next cycle...

    Bear in mind the next Nexus is supposed to be the Samsung Note II, so at 5.x inches I think that might have the rest of the bits and pieces, full size USB slot excepted.

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    I doubt they'll go 7 inch.

    The keyboard is already painful to use on the full size iPad as it takes up half the screen in landscape. A 7 inch tablet would have limited appeal for their market... People will put up with a tiny keyboard on a phone, but not a tablet which is supposed to be a semi notebook/desktop replacement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    nearly 25%, same as the Fire.

    No real story here then.
    The real story is your inability to do math.

    $199 to $90 is 'nearly 25%' less? Really? You're going to try that one?

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    Can you point out the $90? The cheapest I saw yesterday was $150, the cheapest today is $145.

    Amazon.com: Used and New: Kindle Fire, Full Color 7" Multi-touch Display, Wi-Fi

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    Conveniently shifting the evidence around - the original comment clearly referred to CraigsList (as its dealing with used products) where Kindle Fires go for between $80-$90, which a current perusal of CraigsList supports.

    Nice try at dishonest distraction, though - as usual.

    You have a problem in being truthful, don't you? I wonder if that carries through to your professional life.?

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    I've merely posted to you the second hand market as on Amazon, and as you can see it shows your story to be another piece of Appletard fiction.

    Unless, of course, you think I have the capability to manipulate Amazon's website.

    Sorry Daffy, you fucked up again.

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    Still here's some good news for you.

    Chrome hits iPad, iPhone

    Fri, 29 Jun 2012 8:05 AM


    Google on Thursday took the web browser battle to iPads and iPhones with the release of Chrome software for popular Apple devices built with Safari online surfing programs at heart.
    "People have been asking to use Chrome on the iPhone," Chrome product management director Brian Rakowski said while showing off the new browser programs slated to be available in Apple's online App Store.
    "We figured why stop there, that we would launch Chrome for the iPad too."
    Safari remains the default browser used in Apple gadgets and its "engine" powers Chrome and other web-surfing applications, as mandated by the Cupertino company.
    "It is obviously not what powers Chrome in Windows and Android," Chrome senior vice president Sundar Pichai said in an interview at Google's annual developers conference in San Francisco.
    "I think we were able to get it working well," he continued. "We had to make trade-offs."
    Google announced Chrome for iPads and iPhones as it enhanced software to sync the browser across the array of internet-linked devices commonly used in modern lifestyles.
    People could start browsing with Chrome on a Macbook and then pick up where they left off on a smartphone, tablet, or other computer, Rakowski demonstrated at the company's annual gathering of developers.
    "Chrome was built for a better web," Pichai said during a presentation.
    "We want to make sure Chrome acts like a layer to work seamlessly across all your devices," he continued. "No other browser is doing this."
    Google on Thursday also made its Drive online data storage service available on iPhones, iPods and iPads, joining Microsoft's SkyDrive and others as competition to Apple's iCloud.
    Cloud-based "lockers" allow users to store documents, images or other digital files at datacentres and then access them from whichever internet-linked devices they wish.
    "Google Drive is about making it easy to live in the cloud," said Google product manager Clay Bavor.
    "At its core, Drive is about enabling sharing and collaboration."
    Improving and expanding Chrome appears to be part of a shrewd strategy to keep Google woven into people's internet activities no matter what gadgets they use, according to Forrester analyst Frank Gilette.
    "Google wants to be in as many places as their customers are," Gilette said. "Google is making it so that no matter what device an individual picks up, their stuff and what they were doing (at Google previously) is right there."
    Google's strategy includes making Chrome ubiquitous and, where needed, making its own hardware.
    On Tuesday, Google unveiled its own Nexus branded tablet computer built by Asus and a made-in-America Nexus Q device for streaming movies, music and other content from online shop Google Play to televisions or speakers.
    "The goal behind something like Nexus is to serve as a reference design for the ecosystem to shoot at something," Pichai said of Google working with partners on its Nexus brand devices.
    Google said it will begin selling its Chromebook computers powered by versions of the browser in consumer electronics stores in the United States and Britain, and that it is readying a fresh line for the year-end holiday season.
    "Google is growing and stretching and trying to go in a lot of directions," Gilette said. "It looks really interesting."
    The release of Chrome and Drive for gadgets running on Apple's iOS mobile platform came as Google also ramped up efforts to wean companies from Microsoft software used at work and developers from database services sold by Amazon.com.
    Pichai said that more than five million businesses have switched from in-house computer programs to using applications hosted by Google as services in the internet "cloud."
    "Many businesses are going Google," Pichai said, firing barbs at Microsoft software in the process.
    Google also took the wraps off a Compute Engine that lets developers or website operators tap into the massive power of datacentres in a direct challenge to Amazon Web Services.
    "You now have access to the scale and performance of Google's infrastructure and at a great price," Google's Urs Hoelzle said. "It is up to you to figure how to use that

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I've merely posted to you the second hand market as on Amazon, and as you can see it shows your story to be another piece of Appletard fiction.

    Unless, of course, you think I have the capability to manipulate Amazon's website.

    Sorry Daffy, you fucked up again.
    Like I said, nice try at dishonesty, as usual, by ignoring the second hand source initially listed, as it didn't agree with you...

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    I think there's something wrong with your brain, or perhaps you need glasses. Or perhaps you're just lying, it is after all the Apple way.


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    I see you have carefully handpicked your listings...

    I could do that as well:

    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $78 (Battery Park)
    Jun 29 - ★ NEW! UNOPENED Amazon Kindle ★ - $70 (Midtown West)
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $100 (Midtown)
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire w/ Leather Case - $94 (East Village)
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $83 (Long Island )
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire **Nice** - $83 (Downtown)
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $100 (Fairfield County, CT)
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $100 (Fairfield County, CT)
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $99 (Greenwich Village)
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire for Sale - $83 (East Harlem)
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire for sale - $80 (NEW YORK)
    Jun 29 - KINDLE FIRE w/case - $83 (Midtown)
    Jun 29 - Kindle 2 WIFI and 3G - $84 (NYC)
    Jun 29 - Kindle fire - $82 (Midtown West)

    But, don't let me deter you - keep lying.

    Yes, there are very isolated offerings for Kindle Fire for the prices you listed - they are so few, that you you had to pick them and edit out the cheap listings. As I said, dishonesty and lying are second nature to your obsession and fanaticism.

    Here's the above, as a fully contiguous listing - notice there's one in your price-listing, while the remaining 99% are in the range that I initially listed:

    Just use this URL:

    new york all for sale / wanted classifieds "kindle " - craigslist

    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $78 (Battery Park) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - ★ NEW! UNOPENED Amazon Kindle ★ - $70 (Midtown West) electronics - by owner pic
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $167 (NYC/LI) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $100 (Midtown) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire w/ Leather Case - $94 (East Village) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $112 (new york) computers - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $83 (Long Island ) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire: Great Condition - $144 (Fld County) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire **Nice** - $83 (Downtown) electronics - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $100 (Fairfield County, CT) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Wi - $100 (Morris Heights) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - New Kindle Fire - $104 (NYC) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $99 (Greenwich Village) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - MY STUFF FOR YOUR IPAD OR KINDLE FIRE - $500 (Chelsea) electronics - by dealer
    Jun 29 - NEW in Box Kindle Fire - $92 (Shelton) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Selling rooted kindle fire - $140 (Shelton) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Perfect condition Kindle Fire Tablet - $88 (Queens/LI) computers - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire Like New Only Used 4 times - $120 (East Harlem) computers - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire for Sale - $83 (East Harlem) computers - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire for sale - $80 (NEW YORK) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - KINDLE FIRE w/case - $83 (Midtown) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle 2 WIFI and 3G - $84 (NYC) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire New - $94 (Harlem / Morningside) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $112 (Flatiron) computers - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $104 (Queens /Brooklyn ) electronics - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Brand New Kindle Fire - $83 (Midtown) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $94 (downtown nyc) computers - by dealer
    Jun 29 - New Kindle Fire - $102 (queens nyc) electronics - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle fire - $82 (Midtown West) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - ****BRAND NEW KINDLE FIRE**** - $165 electronics - by owner pic
    Jun 29 - ****BRAND NEW KINDLE FIRE**** - $165 electronics - by owner pic
    Jun 29 - KINDLE FIRE - $98 (manhattan) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire! - $104 (Fairfield Co) video gaming - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Ibanez Acoustic Guitar for Kindle Fire - $96 (Brooklyn) electronics - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire Rooted - $84 (East Village) computers - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $80 (Sutton Place) computers - by dealer
    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $83 (NJ NY SI BKLYN QUEENS LI) computers - by dealer

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    Didn't edit anything, just cut and paste.

    But then again, I did search for "Kindle Fire".

    Plus, I notice there are no descriptions of condition on your list. Here's a newsflash, if they are in a crappier condition, they're cheaper.

    Maybe you should look for worn out iPads?


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    HB backpedalng at high speed. (Hint: try lying less).

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    Strange, when I bang in "Kindle Fire" at that link I get this.

    I notice you typed in just "Kindle". Perhaps stupid people mislabelling eReaders? Or perhaps you just trying to mislead readers?



    all for sale: by-owner | by-dealer | both search for: in: title only entire post price:
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    Jun 29 - Have your device rooted today! NYC Rooting Services - $40 (Manhattan) cell phones - by owner

    Jun 29 - TRADE MY ICED OUT BLING CROSS WITH CUBAN FOR YOUR 3DS 360 PS3 OR ???? - $200 (NYC TRISTATE) video gaming - by owner pic

    Jun 29 - For the Kindle Fire - Psalmic Images - $2 (Upper West Side) books & magazines - by owner pic

    Jun 29 - used kindle fire for sale - $120 (Union Square) electronics - by owner

    Jun 29 - AMAZON KINDLE FIRE (BRAND NEW) - $180 (Mount Vernon) electronics - by owner

    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $100 (Williamsburg) electronics - by owner pic

    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire Rooted with ICS Android 4.0 - $150 (Ridgewood) electronics - by owner pic

    Jun 29 - KINDLE FIRE *NEW IN BOX - $175 (PATCHOGUE) computers - by owner

    Jun 29 - BRAND NEW KINDLE FIRE, STILL SEALED IN BOX! NEVER OPENED! SAVE $30!!! - $170 (Midtown) electronics - by owner pic

    Jun 29 - Kindle Fire - $140 (Forest Hills) electronics - by owner

    Jun 29 - KINDLE FIRE LIKE NEW - $165 (Financial District) electronics - by owner pic

    Jun 29 - ****BRAND NEW KINDLE FIRE**** - $165 electronics - by owner pic

    Jun 29 - ****BRAND NEW KINDLE FIRE**** - $165 electronics - by owner pic

    Jun 29 - Like New Kindle Fire In BOX - $149 electronics - by owner

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    Mind you, on your list is one person "I received this as a gift, but its not the kind I really wanted. It is brand new in the box, never opened. Email if interested!".

    $87, if that is a Fire, that's a fucking bargain, gotta love stupid people.

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    probably a "lost shipment" at the back of a truck if you see what I mean

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    Has CM bought a tablet yet? I hate these bloody posters that start up threads for advice, but never buy the product... Fuk me...

    I might start up a few new threads today:

    Suggestions on a Ford Ranger pickup cover.
    Motorbike detachable luggage/carrier suggestions.
    The new lambo in Exotic cars, Rama 2; is it worth a test drive?
    Should I go for the new Asus Transformer or just buy a simple and cheap iPAD 2?
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    From what you are saying the key thing you need is a 10" screen. This will allow you to read technical books in their original paper based book format. Important if you are reading anything from a journal or a book with illustrations, tables and graphs.
    I'd rather read them on a 24" widescreeen or larger; or on a 90" projected screen than a titchy little netbook or pad.
    Though I recognise it's probably easier to wipe sperm off an Ipad screen.

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    Has anybody used the asus transformer prime? Anygood?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    From what you are saying the key thing you need is a 10" screen. This will allow you to read technical books in their original paper based book format. Important if you are reading anything from a journal or a book with illustrations, tables and graphs.
    I'd rather read them on a 24" widescreeen or larger; or on a 90" projected screen than a titchy little netbook or pad.
    Though I recognise it's probably easier to wipe sperm off an Ipad screen.
    I see your point. Its got to be hard for you to hold an iPad in your left hand whilst vigorously exercising your right hand, I guess apart from hygiene, as you pointed out, tablets are not very tosser friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Has anybody used the asus transformer prime? Anygood?
    There were rumoured problems with it, so most people were holding out for the Prime HD. But now they've announced another one (see above).

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    I still say the iPad 2 16GB without 3G is the best buy out there for what it will be used for- browsing the internet, watching pornos and listening to music.

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