Tablet Computers, which one and why?

**Kwang** · 25-05-2012, 11:32 PM

^ Butterfly will give you the proper reason why

**nigelandjan** · 26-05-2012, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

iPad if you want to pay for most of your apps, don't want expandable storage, and want to look like a stupid fucking schoolgirl.

I think you will find now external memory is awailable ,, looks like the little gadget that puts the pics in .

I got my better half one for last xmas , she's never off it so mabe its not a good idea ,, we got some brill videos on it and picture shows put on via my Macbook what a dysfunctional itard couple we are

**jizzybloke** · 26-05-2012, 03:46 AM

does iPad support flash yet?

**dirtydog** · 26-05-2012, 03:52 AM

Not sure if you lot know about this, but both my PC's and netbook have videos on and can play them, don't you do that with your non tablet computers?

**Mr Earl** · 26-05-2012, 06:45 AM

The 7.7" galaxy tab is a powerful little device. Easy to hold with one hand, the software is much improved over 7" Tab which is itself a pretty good unit.

My daughter tells me the ipad3 is the best. I think that size is too big, I like being able to hold the device with one hand like a book.

**milly** · 13-02-2013, 04:28 PM

Just got a Galaxy Note !! totally loving it ! was just a bit worried if the VPN would work on it and lol ! my uktvaccess account works great on my new android tablet

I love the tablet technology ...

**FailSafe** · 26-05-2012, 06:56 AM

I have an iPad 3, a couple other tablets, and a high-end laptop- if all I'm doing is surfing the net or sending emails, I reach for the iPad every time- it has by far the best user interface of any tablet I've tried (and I've tried nearly all of them)- if I'm doing actual work, I will only use the laptop as I would never trust anything important to a tablet, no matter who makes it.

I'm interested in the new Transformer Prime HD- if it ends up being as good as the iPad, then it might be a better choice (imho, anyway, as I prefer the Android platform).

The difference in price from a cheap tablet to a good one is not really that much, so you should dismiss the cheap ones if you plan to use your tablet often- a shitty interface is really frustrating and you'll be sorry later if you bought the device with saving a few bucks in mind.

**Bettyboo** · 26-05-2012, 10:13 AM

CM, it's all down to what you want to do - I checked them all out and played with them all; my undergraduate studies were in electronic engineering (this also covered various s/w courses, RAM, ROM, input/output devices, etc) so I had half an idea what the specs mean...

It just comes down to what you want to use it for. I got a Kindle Touch because I don't want to watch videos on it, don't want to connect to the internet on it, don't want it as a music player; I just want to store lots of books in one place that is very small and portable, can be read anywhere (coffee shops, planes, etc) - it is perfect for that.

People I know with an iPAD 2 love it, but they just send emails, play videos and games, facebook, not much more.

If you want better techonlogy (but not always better build quality...) then the Samsungs are good, but expensive; the expensive ones are very good in all departments, but you're approaching twice the price of an iPad 2 for reasons that may be of no concern to you and you may never use.

If you like a tablet for convenience and style, but want lots of laptop type functionality then the ASUS transformer is the way to go; I've seen them at 16,000 now at Powerbuy, but they are the last of a batch that is about to be superceded, still a good buy though.

You can spend fuk loads, you can spend 35,000 on a phone that becomes a tablet that becomes a netbook and has brilliant screen, memory, processsor and battery life, but if you just play some videos, link to some websites and send some emails then there's no benefit over a 13,500 iTard2.

You should decide what you want it for. Don't forget the Kindle Fire which has has a colour screen can play videos, email, search the web and be a book reader, Barnes and Noble also do one called Nook, but they are primarily sold as book readers so the internet experience will be slower and clunky, the screen is quite small for video, 7", etc. But, they are only $200.

Decide what you want it for then go with the tablet that best matches your requirements, don't be fooled by the latest and greatest specs, especially if they are not linked to your purpose of buying.

From what you outlined, an iPAD 2 at 13,500 is gonna be a good buy, imo. Good luck.

**aging one** · 26-05-2012, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

And why does it say iPad's only have 32 or 64GB? That surely isn't storage space

He needs more power it seems BB.

**Bettyboo** · 26-05-2012, 10:51 AM

^ He doesn't, he's just got used to hearing the big numbers quoted on Laptops, but they are different devices sold for a different purpose - how much space do you need to run the Winows operating system nowadays???

If you're talking about boomboom, then I don't know, at my age, I've forgotten...

**FailSafe** · 26-05-2012, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Don't forget the Kindle Fire which has has a colour screen can play videos, email, search the web and be a book reader

I left my iPad at work and picked up my Kindle Fire yesterday for the first time in at least a month- while it's a much cheaper alternative, the interface was really poor (and very frustrating when I was trying to make a post) compared to the iPad- cost aside, there's just no comparison.

**harrybarracuda** · 26-05-2012, 01:58 PM

The Kindle Fire is primarily a device for delivering and reading/watching media.

It's an Amazon proprietary product for that exact purpose. The fact that you can install apps on it is a bonus, but I wouldn't choose it as a tablet for every day use.

**Butterfly** · 26-05-2012, 04:42 PM

Viewsonic is fucking great, no complain so far

for surfing, you need Opera, it's awesome

**hazz** · 27-05-2012, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

If you want better techonlogy (but not always better build quality...) then the Samsungs are good, but expensive; the expensive ones are very good in all departments, but you're approaching twice the price of an iPad 2 for reasons that may be of no concern to you and you may never use.

I have to say that when I buy my next tablet in 12-18 months time, I probably will be thinking of a 10" samsung. But then I have lots of little micro-controllers about the place doing stuff and it would be nice to connect to some of them using the bluetooth dongels i put in them.... something apple thinks is utter unreasonable unless you pay them several 10'sk

**harrybarracuda** · 27-05-2012, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by hazz

I have to say that when I buy my next tablet in 12-18 months time, I probably will be thinking of a 10" samsung. But then I have lots of little micro-controllers about the place doing stuff and it would be nice to connect to some of them using the bluetooth dongels i put in them.... something apple thinks is utter unreasonable unless you pay them several 10'sk

12-18 months is several lifetimes in technology shifts these days. Be interesting to see what choices are revealed at CES 2014!

**Butterfly** · 27-05-2012, 09:47 AM

the entry version of iPad is not a bad compromise in terms of pricing and functions,

but the future belongs to Android, so the iPad is just a throw away little gadget like most apple devices

**FailSafe** · 27-05-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

the entry version of iPad is not a bad compromise in terms of pricing and functions,

but the future belongs to Android, so the iPad is just a throw away little gadget like most apple devices

I used to think that as well, until I talked with a software/app developer.

He said that (from a development standpoint) Android is actually a bitch to program for, due to differences in the various manufacturers systems- basically, he said you don't write an Android app- you write an HTC app, then a Samsung app, then an Asus app, etc- with Apple at least you can reach a huge audience by writing a single app- with tens of millions of iPads sold, the market isn't going anywhere.

**harrybarracuda** · 27-05-2012, 12:26 PM

^ That's horseshit, otherwise the Market would be full of "HTC", "Samsung" and "ASUS" versions of every app.

He's obviously pretty crap at developing.

**FailSafe** · 27-05-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

^ That's horseshit, otherwise the Market would be full of "HTC", "Samsung" and "ASUS" versions of every app.

He's obviously pretty crap at developing.

Maybe, but I think he does pretty well for himself.

I'm not a developer, so I can't really comment, and I don't much care one way or the other, but I'm passing along what I heard.

He writes apps for all companies and platforms, and said Android is the biggest pain because all manufacturers roll out their own versions, and what works great for Samsung may not work so well on an HTC- also, he complained about fragmentation in the market, with ICS only having been introduced to less than 10% of handheld devices so far, and he sees some of the big players backing off Android somewhat lately.

You can call it 'horseshit' if you want- maybe it is- I would think insight from someone who actually creates apps for a living would be worth something, though.

**harrybarracuda** · 27-05-2012, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

^ That's horseshit, otherwise the Market would be full of "HTC", "Samsung" and "ASUS" versions of every app.

He's obviously pretty crap at developing.

Maybe, but I think he does pretty well for himself.

I'm not a developer, so I can't really comment, and I don't much care one way or the other, but I'm passing along what I heard.

He writes apps for all companies and platforms, and said Android is the biggest pain because all manufacturers roll out their own versions, and what works great for Samsung may not work so well on an HTC- also, he complained about fragmentation in the market, with ICS only having been introduced to less than 10% of handheld devices so far, and he sees some of the big players backing off Android somewhat lately.

You can call it 'horseshit' if you want- maybe it is- I would think insight from someone who actually creates apps for a living would be worth something, though.

I won't dispute the fragmentation issue - that an app written for 2.x or 3.x might not work on 4.x - but it's up to the developer to keep up, as it is for developers on any platform. I wouldn't want to be developing add-ons for Firefox at the moment, for example.

But your previous quote is just a ridiculous generalisation, otherwise there would be separate markets for each manufacturer.

Admittedly, there are problems that come from proprietary hardware on individual devices, and Apple clearly have the advantage on that front as they stick to unified software stack.

But the biggest reason lazy developers don't like Android is because more than half of its apps are free, while Apple's figure is only 25%.

So it's more likely that you have to be a better developer and come up with something innovative in the Android Market if you want to make money, whereas in the Apple world you're more likely up against other developers who charge, making it a more level playing field.

I think Google recognise that there are problems; it's bought Motorola, and I think it's going to try and rein in Android and try to get vendors to standardise a lot more.

If nothing else, they'll save a fortune on fucking patent infringment suits!

**baldrick** · 27-05-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

I presume you can just connect your Ext. HDD to those iPad 2's?

no...

**Chairman Mao** · 27-05-2012, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

I presume you can just connect your Ext. HDD to those iPad 2's?

no...

How does one transfer stuff from a Win 7 Desktop/Netbook to an iPad 2?

Music and vids, PDF and MS Office files etc?

**Butterfly** · 27-05-2012, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

I presume you can just connect your Ext. HDD to those iPad 2's?

no...

How does one transfer stuff from a Win 7 Desktop/Netbook to an iPad 2?

Music and vids, PDF and MS Office files etc?

you have to go through one of the biggest bloated POS software ever made, iTunes

it takes a QuadCore CPU and 8GB of RAM just to launch the fucking thing, and a simple 10MB transfer is 2 hours job between figuring out how it works properly and transferring the actual files

that alone is the biggest argument against the iPad, nothing else

**harrybarracuda** · 27-05-2012, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

I presume you can just connect your Ext. HDD to those iPad 2's?

no...

How does one transfer stuff from a Win 7 Desktop/Netbook to an iPad 2?

Music and vids, PDF and MS Office files etc?

you have to go through one of the biggest bloated POS software ever made, iTunes

it takes a QuadCore CPU and 8GB of RAM just to launch the fucking thing, and a simple 10MB transfer is 2 hours job between figuring out how it works properly and transferring the actual files

that alone is the biggest argument against the iPad, nothing else

Yeah, you fucking love it, you bullshitter.

**Mr Earl** · 27-05-2012, 02:10 PM

^That makes quite a bit of sense to me now having lived with two different android devices for over a year. From device to device I see quirky and unstable characteristics of hardware, OS, and app interface. Even though they both are from the same manufacturer.
Also the android OS seems to go through many incarnations making it seemingly difficult for said manufacturer to keep up with updates and hardware compatibility. Seems like the android is having similar hardware/software compatibilty issues that we saw in the early days of the advent of the Pentium processors.
I'm hoping apple does market a price leader mini ipad. I'd certainly give it a try. Quirky only goes so far.

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