Glenn Beck Rocks!

**DrB0b** · 21-09-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Ah, so you are telling me Time is right wing now? True, they were when they supported Chiang Kai Shek.

Hey Jet, apropos of this

If you're desperate and... 21-09-2009 09:34 AM Jet Gorgon Why do you care what the Thais do?

What do you care what the USA does? You don't live there and you're not from there. What's it to you?

**panama hat** · 21-09-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

What do you care what the USA does? You don't live there and you're not from there. What's it to you?

That's not fair because . . . well, it just isn't! Fekkin bladdy libbie

**slackula** · 21-09-2009, 02:25 PM

**larvidchr** · 21-09-2009, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Ah, so you are telling me Time is right wing now? True, they were when they supported Chiang Kai Shek.

Hey Jet, apropos of this

If you're desperate and... 21-09-2009 09:34 AM Jet Gorgon Why do you care what the Thais do?

What do you care what the USA does? You don't live there and you're not from there. What's it to you?

Unfurtunately most of what happens in the US has ripple effect all over the world, so we are very reluctantly forced to have an opinion on things over there, especially since American politics have an uncanny knack of not doing the obvious right and sensible thing, the recent healthcare debate clearly shows how money talks much louder than doing the only economically sensible thing, it shows a democracy deeply flawed by the influence of money grabbing scrupulous-less big finance, who could not care less what people or what Country they hurt, as long as the bottom-line shows black numbers rising with amoral high percentages.
The only good thing about it is that since these swine's have managed to put the whole of the US on the back-foot, and hurt the economies everywhere else, the US Government have been forced to listen to voices/demands from outside, lets pray it helps.

As far as Glen Beck goes, he is just a symptom of the disease in Disney cartoon land, where to much of the information is dished out in superficial opinionated dummy form, in short segments separated by long consumer advertisement blocks, and all paid for by the money people who really run the Country.

What happens in Thailand might effect some of us living here as expats, but most likely wont, at the moment Thailand stand neck deep in their own shit, and the rest of the world really don't care that much, the few of us who have come to have some measure of affection for the influence disenfranchised normal Thai people, do have our opinions on the matter, as can everybody else round the world if they please, but it really isn't going to change anything because the present powers in Thailand think they are superior to everybody else, and for that reason are convinced they don't need to listen to advise from anybody, the Country are slowly but surely heading towards a major internal conflict between the have not and the have.
Most of us have the fortunate privilege, that when the time comes we can up and leave, not so for the poor Thai People, who have been trampled under foot for so long, by the unbelievably incompetent and totally useless Thai upper-classes, who in their monumental ignorance fail to recognise the World winds of change, lot's of those poor Thais will have to die before things here will change.

Now that is something for Glenn Beck to cry about, but he probably couldn't even point Thailand out on a map.

Rant over

**Jet Gorgon** · 21-09-2009, 08:46 PM

^ Good rant.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Ah, so you are telling me Time is right wing now? True, they were when they supported Chiang Kai Shek.

Hey Jet, apropos of this

If you're desperate and... 21-09-2009 09:34 AM Jet Gorgon Why do you care what the Thais do?

What do you care what the USA does? You don't live there and you're not from there. What's it to you?

Forgot to answer my Q about Time and twisted the subject to the US? Da usual.
The US does affect Canada's economy greatly.

**S Landreth** · 22-09-2009, 01:02 PM

From a right wing blog (Peter Wehner),………….

Glenn Beck: Harmful to the Conservative Movement

Unlike others associated with Time magazine, David von Drehle is a skilled, careful, and perceptive writer. So I was interested in his cover story on FOX News’s Glenn Beck, who is considered to be a red-hot commodity these days.

I don’t pretend to be an expert on Beck. In the past I assumed he was a typical figure in the pundit and cable-media world. Only recently have I watched portions of his television program, as well as interviews with him, and heard parts of his radio program. And what I’ve seen should worry the conservative movement.

I say that because he seems to be more of a populist and libertarian than a conservative, more of a Perotista than a Reaganite. His interest in conspiracy theories is disquieting, as is his admiration for Ron Paul and his charges of American “imperialism.” (He is now talking about pulling troops out of Afghanistan, South Korea, Germany, and elsewhere.) Some of Beck’s statements—for example, that President Obama has a “deep-seated hatred for white people”–are quite unfair and not good for the country. His argument that there is very little difference between the two parties is silly, and his contempt for parties in general is anti-Burkean (Burke himself was a great champion of political parties). And then there is his sometimes bizarre behavior, from tearingup to screaming at his callers. Beck seems to be a roiling mix of fear, resentment, and anger—the antithesis of Ronald Reagan.

I understand that a political movement is a mansion with many rooms; the people who occupy them are involved in intellectual and policy work, in politics, and in polemics. Different people take on different roles. And certainly some of the things Beck has done on his program are fine and appropriate. But the role Glenn Beck is playing is harmful in its totality. My hunch is that he is a comet blazing across the media sky right now—and will soon flame out. Whether he does or not, he isn’t the face or disposition that should represent modern-day conservatism. At a time when we should aim for intellectual depth, for tough-minded and reasoned arguments, for good cheer and calm purpose, rather than erratic behavior, he is not the kind of figure conservatives should embrace or cheer on.

Link: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/wehner/100152

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Link: http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=53094

Then there is this,………(Beck is going to anger those 20 percenters),……….

Bush started on the road towards socialism, started the crazy spending, started the bailouts and I hated him for that.

More to the story: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/21/beck-bailout-bush/

**AntRobertson** · 22-09-2009, 01:18 PM

I'm going to have to disagree with Mr. Wehner there, because in this:

Beck seems to be a roiling mix of fear, resentment, and anger

Beck seems to nicely encapsulate a ever growing number of conservatives.

He's correct in saying it's bad for the conservative movement of course, but Beck's no more than a mouth-piece for the underlying resentment and such, a symptom not the cause.

**S Landreth** · 22-09-2009, 01:52 PM

^In one of the links I posted above, many responses (at hotair) about the article support Beck and his shows.

I would hope some right wingers would read the article and question,………….Is Beck doing good for the Conservative movement or doing more harm?

If some right wingers start questioning Beck, maybe more would.

It is a start.

**Norton** · 22-09-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Is Beck doing good for the Conservative movement or doing more harm?

He is doing much harm to the GOP who seem to have yet to figure out the way to move the vast majority of conservatives to their cause. It is these moderate conservatives and independents the GOP needs to court if they ever expect to win elections. Most conservatives lean closer to the middle than the extreme right wing rhetoric heard from Beck and others of his ilk.

On the other side, the Dems have to be aware, calling someone a racists who has a legitimate opposition to a particular Dem supported issue will only result in losing the moderate Dems who also lean more to the center.

Either party that does not appeal to the moderates and independents (known in the past as the silent majority) will never win a major election.

**Butterfly** · 22-09-2009, 03:09 PM

I would need to see that character next time I watch Faux

is he worst than Oreilly ? that would be pretty hard to beat,

**barbaro** · 22-09-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I would need to see that character next time I watch Faux

is he worst than Oreilly ? that would be pretty hard to beat,

Beck is the "try to be funny, a little bit excited guy."

O'reilly seems negative, cycincal, and criticizes almost every thing with a negative tone of voice. He's a whinger.

Beck is the happy counterpart.

Hannity: over-the-top, willfully ignorant, and Hannity seems to have the less sophisticated base. High school vocabulary and critical thinking process.

It's interesting, if you separate these TV and radio personalities you might notice (at least I do), the differences, although they are similar.

I'd like to see a breakdown of their audience demographics. I assume they know the socio-economic background, geographical location clusters, etc. of who is watching who.

**Jet Gorgon** · 23-09-2009, 03:23 AM

Beck likes to dig up issues, and he's uncovered good stuff lately -- Jones and ACORN. He's got great ratings and if the left is spewing so much vitriole on him, that means he's doing his job. The photographer who took all those crybaby photos, had Beck pose as such. She kept the snaps and is now selling them off. Haven't heard Beck trying to sue like a libbie would. He likely thinks it's hilarious, and good promo for him.

**barbaro** · 23-09-2009, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Beck likes to dig up issues, and he's uncovered good stuff lately -- Jones and ACORN. He's got great ratings and if the left is spewing so much vitriole on him, that means he's doing his job. The photographer who took all those crybaby photos, had Beck pose as such. She kept the snaps and is now selling them off. Haven't heard Beck trying to sue like a libbie would. He likely thinks it's hilarious, and good promo for him.

Many conservatives don't like Beck. I am not on the "left" and I don't like him at all Beck.

It's the dishonesty, the showmanship, and the way he presents his info.

One example:

In July of 08 he patted his hadn on a piece of white paper sitting in front of him on his desk.

He claimed it was an IRS document that revealed that the Middle Class was shrinking because they were moving into the upper middle class.

This is factually false. The middle class has been shrinking since 1970 and they are moving downward.

He never told us where we viewers, could read this document. He never showed the document or cited his source.

As I've said before: if anyone wants to follow policy issue they have to read about them. No TV, or radio.

**Jet Gorgon** · 24-09-2009, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Milkman

In July of 08 he patted his hand on a piece of white paper sitting in front of him on his desk.

He never told us where we viewers, could read this document. He never showed the document or cited his source.

As I've said before: if anyone wants to follow policy issue they have to read about them. No TV, or radio.

Milkie, do TV anchors ever tell you this stuff? I don't believe totally what anybody tells me in the media, print or otherwise. What I said was, Beck uncovers issues and he has gotten results by doing so. Of course, he is not a rocket scientist, but he has charisma and knows how to draw people in, just like Obama.

**barbaro** · 24-09-2009, 07:51 AM

Yes, Beck is getting ratings. And he's also getting book sales.

This is an industry. It's a genre.

They study what works and what doesn't.

Like you, I'm skeptical of all forms of media. Some are better than others.

I've given my opinion where Beck stands - at the bottom. He add his own opinions to many things he "reports" on. This isn't journalism or like being an anchor. And I understand that that is not his objective.

**S Landreth** · 24-09-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Milkman

I've given my opinion where Beck stands - at the bottom.

There’s a piece at salon.com about Beck. Here’s a snippet,…………

The animosity between Beck and Kelly continued to deepen. When Beck and Hattrick produced a local version of Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" for Halloween -- a recurring motif in Beck's life and career -- Kelly told a local reporter that the bit was a stupid rip-off of a syndicated gag. The slight outraged Beck, who got his revenge with what may rank as one of the cruelest bits in the history of morning radio. "A couple days after Kelly's wife, Terry, had a miscarriage, Beck called her live on the air and says, 'We hear you had a miscarriage,' " remembers Brad Miller, a former Y95 DJ and Clear Channel programmer. "When Terry said, 'Yes,' Beck proceeded to joke about how Bruce [Kelly] apparently can't do anything right -- about he can't even have a baby."

"It was low class," says Miller, now president of Open Stream Broadcasting. "There are certain places you just don't go."

Link: Glenn Beck becomes damaged goods | Salon News

**raycarey** · 24-09-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

"A couple days after Kelly's wife, Terry, had a miscarriage, Beck called her live on the air and says, 'We hear you had a miscarriage,' " remembers Brad Miller, a former Y95 DJ and Clear Channel programmer. "When Terry said, 'Yes,' Beck proceeded to joke about how Bruce [Kelly] apparently can't do anything right -- about he can't even have a baby."

classy!

glenn beck ROCKS!

**panama hat** · 24-09-2009, 12:28 PM

Definitely an idol for the likes of Jet . . . High Five!

**S Landreth** · 26-09-2009, 05:36 AM

More Beck bashing,…………..

Mt. Vernon city council distances itself from mayor’s ‘Glenn Beck Day.’

On September 26, Bud Norris, the mayor of Mt. Vernon, WA, will award the ceremonial key to the city to Glenn Beck, who grew up there. Norris’ decision to declare “Glenn Beck Day” has led to demonstrations “on the streets and in city council meetings over the conservative commentator’s visit.” Last night, the city council voted unanimously to distance itself from honoring Beck:

On Wednesday night, the City Council of this town of 32,000 distanced itself from Mayor Bud Norris, who plans to give the keys to the city to talk-show personality Glenn Beck on Saturday.

The seven-member council unanimously passed a resolution proposed by member Dale Ragan that stated, “Mount Vernon City Council is in no way sponsoring the Mayor’s event on September 26, 2009 and is not connected to the Glenn Beck event in any manner.”

The resolution came after two dozen people who had signed up for the public-comment part of the session spoke in often emotional language to oppose honoring the controversial talk-show host.

Link: Think Progress » Mt. Vernon city council distances itself from mayor’s ‘Glenn Beck Day.’

Some of the comments/posts after the article are entertaining,………… ‘Change the Locks’ campaign

**Jet Gorgon** · 26-09-2009, 05:40 AM

^ Ya, read that today. Heard Bellingham's mayor will offer the city keys to Jon Stewart in protest. These libbies are funny.

**Jet Gorgon** · 26-09-2009, 09:19 AM

It's Rush Limbaugh, but seeing as how the libbies love to clump all these types together, I'll put it here. Enjoy! Gee, look, Jay Leno's audience is applauding Rush.

And here is Rush running into Al Gore...555

**Muadib** · 26-09-2009, 09:28 AM

Oh dear jet, anyone who trots out Rush Limbaugh to counter Glenn Beck's wackiness is truly scraping the bottom...

**Jet Gorgon** · 26-09-2009, 09:59 AM

^ Already said, didn't know where to put these vids so placed 'em here. Good a spot as any. Great vids. The libbies will hate that the Leno crowd applauds Rush.

**S Landreth** · 06-10-2009, 02:04 AM

Upscale British supermarket chain Waitrose has announced that it will no longer be advertising on Fox,………………….

An angry Waitrose shopper who emailed the chain to express his distaste over its decision “to be associated with this particular form of rightwing cant” received an apology last week.

“We take the placement of our ads in individual programmes very seriously, ensuring the content of these programmes is deemed appropriate for a brand with our values,” said a customer services spokesman. “Since being notified of our presence within the Glenn Beck programme, we have withdrawn all Waitrose advertising from the Fox News channel with immediate effect and for all future TV advertising campaigns.”

A spokesman for the supermarket, which is part of the John Lewis Partnership, could not tell the Guardian how many complaints had been received over the matter. “We believe it was the right thing to do,” he said, adding: “We take the views of our customers seriously.”

He Rocks

**Jet Gorgon** · 06-10-2009, 02:52 AM

People in the UK watch FOX News? There's hope for the Brits yet.

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