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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    No mention of China in Reuter's list, but it appears a second Lebanon port is already available to assist with aid imports:
    Ironic if the ameristani regime "aid" is unloaded from the ameristani regime aircraft carriers and the UK frigate, with Chinese cranes.

    One presumes the local Chinese crane drivers supervisors may have to board the ships to ensure no loads are overweight or unsafely hooked up.

    What a picture the world be witness to.

    Last edited by OhOh; 09-08-2020 at 01:14 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Ironic if the ameristani regime "aid" is unloaded from the ameristani regime aircraft carriers, with Chinese cranes.

    What a picture the world be witness to.

    I think the biggest worry would be them dropping it or the cranes collapsing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Ironic if the ameristani regime "aid" is unloaded from the ameristani regime aircraft carriers, with Chinese cranes.

    What a picture the world be witness to.

    Funny how the Chinese own the Israeli port now. The Seppo regime got their dicks in knots over that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    to Al Udeid Air Base with support of a local Qatari transport company.
    "Upon their arrival to Al Udeid, the pallets were received by Airmen from the 8th EAMS, and processed for loading onto a C-17 bound for Beirut."

    US delivers humanitarian aid to Beirut > U.S. Air Force > Article Display

    No mention of the time of the plane taking off from Qatar, then flying to, the time of landing or unloading in Lebanon.
    Last edited by OhOh; 09-08-2020 at 01:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I think the biggest worry would be them dropping it or the cranes collapsing.
    Edited after your post.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One presumes the local Chinese crane drivers supervisors may have to board the ships to ensure no loads are overweight or unsafely hooked up.

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    Have you made your donation yet?

    Or can we assume that all of you feigning that you care about Lebanon are in fact just full of shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Have you made your donation yet?

    Or can we assume that all of you feigning that you care about Lebanon are in fact just full of shit?
    You're trying to engage two obvious whack jobs like Socal and Ho Ho Ho in conversation, Harry.

    People said that the constant shitfights between the usual members would be the death of the forum, but it's not true.

    It's the likes of the aforementioned clowns and Klondick that will kill the forum. Ten years ago, these idiots would have been shouting at trees and shuttled away to the nearest care home, but now they're here and polluting every thread with their shit. ´Cos the Internet.

    You can't reason with or educate stupid.

    Good luck to you anyway.

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    Image copyrightEPA/TONY VRAILAS/MARINETRAFFIC.COMImage captionThe MV Rhosus arrived at the port in 2013 carrying 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrateLebanon's government has blamed the huge blast that devastated parts of Beirut on the detonation of 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate stored at the city's port.
    People have expressed anger and disbelief that such a large quantity of potentially explosive material was kept inside a warehouse without any safety measures for more than six years, so close to the centre of the city.
    The government has not named the source of the ammonium nitrate, but the same amount of the chemical arrived in Beirut in November 2013 on a Moldovan-flagged cargo ship, the MV Rhosus.








    Media captionThe BBC's Sarah Rainsford spoke to Boris Prokoshev, captain of the MV RhosusThe Russian-owned vessel set sail that September from Batumi, Georgia, heading to Beira, Mozambique.
    It was carrying 2,750 tonnes of ammonium nitrate, which typically comes in the form of small pellets that are widely used as agricultural fertiliser but can also be mixed with fuel oil to make explosives for the mining and construction industries.
    While sailing through the eastern Mediterranean the Rhosus suffered "technical problems" and was forced to dock at Beirut's port, according to a 2015 report for industry newsletter Shippingarrested.com that was written by Lebanese lawyers who represented the crew.
    The Rhosus was inspected by port officials and "forbidden from sailing", the lawyers said. Most of the crew were repatriated, except for the Russian captain, Boris Prokoshev, and three others, who were reportedly Ukrainians.
    Mr Prokoshev told the BBC on Friday that the Rhosus only stopped off in Beirut because its owner had money trouble. The captain said he was told the ship needed to collect an additional cargo of heavy machinery, to fund passage through the Suez Canal.
    However, the machinery proved too heavy to load, and when the ship's owner did not pay the port fees and fine, the Lebanese authorities impounded it, along with the ammonium nitrate, he added.
    More on the explosion in Beirut


    Shortly afterwards, the Rhosus was "abandoned by her owners after charterers and cargo concern lost interest in the cargo", according to the lawyers. It was also subject to legal claims from creditors.
    Meanwhile, the crew still confined to the vessel were running out of food and supplies. The lawyers said they applied to the Judge of Urgent Matters in Beirut for an order authorising them to return home, emphasising "the danger the crew was facing given the 'dangerous' nature of the cargo" in the ship's holds.
    Image copyrightREUTERSImage captionBoris Prokoshev (R), captain of the MV Rhosus, and boatswain Boris Musinchak stand near a hold loaded with sacks of ammonium nitrate at Beirut's port in summer 2014The judge eventually agreed to allow the crew to disembark and in 2014 the port authorities transferred the ammonium nitrate into "Warehouse 12", next to the grain silos. The lawyers said the cargo was "awaiting auctioning and/or proper disposal".
    Mr Prokoshev said authorities in Beirut knew how dangerous the vessel's cargo was and should not have stored it at the port.
    "They should have paid the ship owner to take the ship away. A couple of hundred thousand dollars just to remove it and not have that headache there, in the port. But they wouldn't release it. Is that sensible?"
    "I understand - they wanted the money. But if they'd have known there would be an explosion like that, they wouldn't have done it."
    The port's general manager, Hassan Koraytem, and the director general of Lebanese Customs, Badri Daher, both said on Wednesday that they and other officials repeatedly warned the judiciary about the danger posed by the stored ammonium nitrate and the need to remove it.
    Documents circulated online appeared to show that customs officials sent letters to a Judge of Urgent Matters in Beirut seeking guidance on how to sell or dispose of it at least six times from 2014 to 2017.








    Media captionAerial footage shows flattened buildings after the explosionMr Koraytem told local channel OTV that State Security also sent warning letters.
    Public Works Minister Michel Najjar, who took office at the start of this year, told Al Jazeera that he only learned about the presence of the ammonium nitrate in late July and that he spoke to Mr Koraytem about the matter on Monday.
    A fire appears to have triggered the detonation of the ammonium nitrate the next day. The blast killed at least 137 people and injured about 5,000 others, while dozens are still missing.
    Image copyrightREUTERSImage captionPort officials said they requested the removal of the ammonium nitrate before the explosionPresident Michel Aoun said the failure to deal with the Rhosus' cargo was "unacceptable" and promised to "hold those responsible and those who were negligent accountable, and serve them the most severe punishment".
    The government has ordered officials involved in storing or guarding the ammonium nitrate to be put under house arrest pending an investigation.

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    Here's what the Lebanese think of their President and the Hizbollah scum who back him.

    (Or as Backspin likes to call it, "the Seppo owned colonial government" )

    A powerful blast has just rocked the Lebanese capital of Beirut.-000_1wd7ke-e1596911739413-640x400-jpg
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    Lebanese PM Calls for Early Elections, Blames Corruption for Beirut Blast Amid Massive Protests

    "Prime Minister Hassan Diab was appointed to his post in January 2020, succeeding Saad Hariri. Diab’s short time in office has been racked with instability from events mostly out of his control, starting with the coronavirus pandemic and the accompanying economic crisis, and culminating in the August 4 explosion in the port of Beirut.


    Lebanese Prime Minister Hassan Diab has called for new parliamentary elections, saying they are the only way to take the country out of its current crisis.

    “We cannot get out of this structural crisis without holding early parliamentary elections,” the independent Sunni politician said Saturday in a televised address.
    Diab clarified that he would be ready to continue carrying out his duties for the next two months until all of Lebanon’s political parties can agree on how to proceed.
    Commenting on the ongoing probe into the August 4 explosion in Beirut, which has claimed the lives of over 150 people, injured over 5,000 and displaced as many as 300,000 others, Diab promised that the investigation will continue to expand until everyone involved is held accountable. “I firmly reiterate that none of those responsible for the Beirut Port tragedy will escape punishment,” he stressed.
    Diab added that he considers the port explosion to have been the result of years of “corruption and mismanagement” by his predecessors.
    Under Lebanon’s complex political system, which seeks to maintain a balance between Maronite Christians, Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims, the prime minister can only be appointed and approved or removed by the president (with that post held by Maronite Christian Michel Aoun) with no consultations required from the country’s parliament. But the prime minister is required to retain the confidence of the majority of parliament.
    For new elections to be held, parliament would need to approve them. Dr. Mohammad Marandi, a Tehran-based academic and political analyst, says that if new elections are approved, lawmakers would "also need to approve a new electoral law," meaning elections would actually take place as long as a year from now.

    "The opposition would probably lose an election, because they were the dominant force in government for years and bear most of the responsibility for what happened in the port. That is why they have chosen to push for violence on the streets," Marandi said, speaking to Sputnik."

    Lebanese PM Calls for Early Elections, Blames Corruption for Beirut Blast Amid Massive Protests - Sputnik International

    Lets see what, if anything, changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Here's what the Lebanese think of their President and the Hizbollah scum who back him.

    (Or as Backspin likes to call it, "the Seppo owned colonial government" )

    A powerful blast has just rocked the Lebanese capital of Beirut.-000_1wd7ke-e1596911739413-640x400-jpg
    It doesn't matter what the people want, or what most people want, but which side is better funded and organised and prepared to do what it takes to achieve their objectives. In the case of Lebanon, this is not the majority of people that would like less corruption and a bit more peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    "Upon their arrival to Al Udeid, the pallets were received by Airmen from the 8th EAMS, and processed for loading onto a C-17 bound for Beirut."

    US delivers humanitarian aid to Beirut > U.S. Air Force > Article Display

    No mention of the time of the plane taking off from Qatar, then flying to, the time of landing or unloading in Lebanon.
    What is worse then a communist?
    A: a wanna be communist who shouts shit that he has no clue about.

    While you where typing your typical "I wanna be a communist idiot" BS, the plane has already landed.

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/08/06/air-force-c-17-lands-beirut-relief-supplies-devastated-city.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    What is worse then a communist?
    An idiot like you.

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    Did China send some Bat soups to Lebanon or why don't I see them in your link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    What is worse then a communist?
    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    An idiot like you.
    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Once more for Klondick the Commie.
    I guess your drunk again

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Did China send some Bat soups to Lebanon or why don't I see them in your link?
    The chinkies will be lining up some loans that Beirut will not be able to afford to pay back. So they can get the money straight back with some interest, use chinky labour to build a new port and when the loan defaults, nick it like they did in Sri Lanka.

    That is how they work.

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    There was a Lebanese woman on tv the other night saying in effect ‘bugger politics, guns and religion - I’m over that crap’.
    There must be many like her who are beset by tribalism and sectarianism and who are heartily sick of that.
    But what hope is there for change ? None.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    some loans that Beirut will not be able to afford to pay back. So they can get the money straight back with some interest,
    Wondering where they have learned the trick from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    I guess your drunk again
    Either side of the coin, you're both pretty much unbearable.

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    So have any of our "caring" Lebanon fans bothered to donate any money yet?

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    There was a Lebanese woman on tv the other night saying in effect ‘bugger politics, guns and religion - I’m over that crap’.
    There must be many like her who are beset by tribalism and sectarianism and who are heartily sick of that.
    But what hope is there for change ? None.

    raghead sectarianism based on unhealthy religious beliefs and resulting in divisiveness, racism, mistrust, nepotism and violence will ensure that the middle east will always be a hotbed of retarded insanity and it will struggle to escape from the stone age mentality that has hamstrung the region for centuries.

    got to feel sorry for the unfortunate innocents trying to earn a crust and bring up their families caught up in all this, but until they cast off the childish and illogical pride driven hatreds that fuel their culture, then nothing will change..... and all the while emigration exports their bullshit to the more civilised corners of the globe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The chinkies will be lining up some loans that Beirut will not be able to afford to pay back. So they can get the money straight back with some interest, use chinky labour to build a new port and when the loan defaults, nick it like they did in Sri Lanka.

    That is how they work.
    Precisely, but they'll supervise every phase of the rebuilding, rather than follow the somewhat naive western route of handing over money to corrupt politicians on the strength of worthless promises and hoping part of the job gets done.

    Credit where due, they understand how things really work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Either side of the coin, you're both pretty much unbearable.
    Well, in that case I'm delighted to be part of your miserable life.

    Prost mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmartin View Post
    There was a Lebanese woman on tv the other night saying in effect ‘bugger politics, guns and religion - I’m over that crap’.
    There must be many like her who are beset by tribalism and sectarianism and who are heartily sick of that.
    But what hope is there for change ? None.
    Seriously nobody in Lebanon protests against corruption, they are all fighting for a fair share of corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Precisely, but they'll supervise every phase of the rebuilding, rather than follow the somewhat naive western route of handing over money to corrupt politicians on the strength of worthless promises and hoping part of the job gets done.

    Credit where due, they understand how things really work.
    Oh no, they'll be spending some of that cashing lining the pockets of the politicians who would sign over the port to them.

    Get their money back.

    Get interest.

    Get a Port.

    Then they'd probably start charging the Lebos to get things out of customs to boot.

    And to shut up Hizbollah, they'll probably provide them with some nice chinky military hardware.

    They don't give a fuck how they make their money.

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