Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

13 miles away from Porton Down nerve agent is allegedly used on unsuspecting people. Not the first time a similar test was done on London Underground.

Porton Down scientists test chemical gas on London Tube passengers

Chemical gas was released on thousands of unsuspecting commuters during a military experiment on the London Underground, documents reveal. These chemical tests were performed in 2013 by scientist from Porton Down.

Porton Down scientists released chemical gas on the London Underground in 2013.
The UK government never informed the British public of the military experiment on the London Underground. Thousands of people were exposed to chemical gas without their knowledge. Nor did the Ministry of Defence ask for their consent to participate in such military experiments. Information about the project can be obtained from a 2016 US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) document entitled Environmental Assessment of Proposed NYC Subway Tracer Particle and Gas Releases for the Underground Transport Restoration Project.

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Originally Posted by Begbie

Agreed.

If you agree that Buttplug ever "tries to sound logical", there's a childish logic flaw right there.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

13 miles away from Porton Down nerve agent is allegedly used on unsuspecting people. Not the first time a similar test was done on London Underground.

Read the document. There is no mention of a nerve agent. It is simply talk of a dissipation test using chemical tracers, something Porton Down would be expected to carry out given that its job is defence against the use of such nerve agents. And especially since such attacks have been carried out before (Japan, Sarin gas).

Dilyana Gaytandzhieva

Of course utterly believable.

I'm just surprised that one of our resident vladophiles hasn't blamed the British for the latest chemical atrocity in Syria.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm sorry you can't follow a point by point response, but I'm not dumbing down to your level.

I understand your desire to not add any clarity. The use of an ambiguous "it" demonstrates your inability to produce evidence and assist us dumb posters is, as always, very telling.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

There is no mention of a nerve agent

I never said it did. The article says 'chemicals' but you jumped to the conclusion I was talking about 'Nerve Agent'.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

something Porton Down would be expected to carry out given that its job is defence against the use of such nerve agents

Which it has done on military personnel for many years, but only with approval first. What they did on the Tube without informing the guinea pigs was wrong and I'd imagine illegal.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I never said it did. The article says 'chemicals' but you jumped to the conclusion I was talking about 'Nerve Agent'.

Which it has done on military personnel for many years, but only with approval first. What they did on the Tube without informing the guinea pigs was wrong and I'd imagine illegal.

OK so we're being picky. The article you selectively quoted specifically states:

Presently Porton Down scientists produce and test dissemination of biological and/or chemical agents as they did in the past, documents from the UK government contracts registry reveal. Although the information is redacted, it still raises questions as to why the UK military needs to develop a new technique for dissemination of chemical or biological agents via the inhalational route.

Don't really see anyone raising questions but the stupid Russian bint that wrote the article.

The whole point of doing these tests blind is to get an accurate measure of how these agents would disperse in a real life situation.

I'm pretty sure it's not illegal. I'm also pretty sure that if they'd announced them beforehand, the tin foil hat brigade would be scaring everyone off with wild claims about chemtrails and shite.

Originally Posted by OhOh

I understand your desire to not add any clarity. The use of an ambiguous "it" demonstrates your inability to produce evidence and assist us dumb posters is, as always, very telling.

The use of the word "it" in the point-by-point-response is pretty obvious to anyone who can read.

You've either become as thick as shit or you're desperately fumbling at a leading question.

Try harder next time.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm just surprised that one of our resident vladophiles hasn't blamed the British for the latest chemical atrocity in Syria.

You have proof of a chemical attack in Syria.?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The whole point of doing these tests blind is to get an accurate measure of how these agents would disperse in a real life situation.

I'm pretty sure it's not illegal. I'm also pretty sure that if they'd announced them beforehand, the tin foil hat brigade would be scaring everyone off with wild claims about chemtrails and shite.

Having been to Porton Down back in the early 70's I was subjected to certain experiments and once used an Atropine Atropen on myself. Before we underwent any trials we first had to sign a consent form. No sign no take part. As for doing tests blind there's a thing called a 'placibo'. For all I know my Atropen could have been filled with a placebo.

Originally Posted by Neo

You have proof of a chemical attack in Syria.?

Expanded discussion in the ISIS thread/Speakers (unless you're just playing the silly OhOh game of squealing "prove it! prove it!", in which case it will simply be having to listen to more of your half-baked conspiracy nonsense).

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Having been to Porton Down back in the early 70's I was subjected to certain experiments and once used an Atropine Atropen on myself. Before we underwent any trials we first had to sign a consent form. No sign no take part. As for doing tests blind there's a thing called a 'placibo'. For all I know my Atropen could have been filled with a placebo.

For all you know what you chose to be exposed to might have been a placebo.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

"prove it! prove it!"

Why to prove? It's "highly likely"...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It would make more sense if you replied

"Naaawwww speaaaky Eeeeenglis".

What English? Should it be the language you write here your valuable posts with the wise comments/advices?

Thanks, but no thanks... (staying better with my poor "Eeeeenglis")...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

For all you know what you chose to be exposed to might have been a placebo.

I agree but I still had to sign a consent form to take part.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

What English? Should it be the language you write here your valuable posts with the wise comments/advices?

Thanks, but no thanks... (staying better with my poor "Eeeeenglis")...

Word of advice:

When you're already replied to a post with one of your dull, irrelevant comments, and nobody has bothered replying, it's probably not worth replying to the same post again with another dull, irrelevant comment.

How dare I comment ("dully" and "irrelevantly") your kind "advices"?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

How dare I comment ("dully" and "irrelevantly") your kind "advices"?

Have another pie, imbecile.

And I believe they're still doing it today.

How British government carried out secret biological warfare tests on London Tube passengers in 1960s during Cold War

How British government carried out secret biological warfare tests on London Tube passengers in 1960s during Cold War |

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

And I believe they're still doing it today.

How British government carried out secret biological warfare tests on London Tube passengers in 1960s during Cold War |

Yes, and they used to drown witches and put real cocaine in Coke.

What exactly does this fascinating sidetrack have to do with the Salisbury attack?


Oooooooooooooooooooooh, you think the Brits were testing something?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Oooooooooooooooooooooh, you think the Brits were testing something?

Well done Sherlock. I hoped you'd fathom it out. What a better place to do a test than at your own backdoor on 2 worthless Russians and claim the Russian government as the perpetrators. I hope they make a movie about it.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Well done Sherlock. I hoped you'd fathom it out. What a better place to do a test than at your own backdoor on 2 worthless Russians and claim the Russian government as the perpetrators. I hope they make a movie about it.

Yes, I'm glad you said Movie and not Documentary.

Great story though.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

do a test than at your own backdoor

Now that makes sense. The deadly, evil, Russian CWs kill in nano seconds. The botched copycat batch made in PD, based on an ameristani book's recipe, doesn't seem to be such a quality product. Good for pussy and gerbils though it seems.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Expanded discussion in the ISIS thread/Speakers (unless you're just playing the silly OhOh game of squealing "prove it! prove it!", in which case it will simply be having to listen to more of your half-baked conspiracy nonsense).

Just flapping about as usual there harry... a simple 'no' would suffice