Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

Originally Posted by Neo

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/422455-us-r...mat-expulsion/

Originally Posted by OhOh

https://www.rt.com/business/422476-nord-stream-permits-germany-us/

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Originally Posted by OhOh

Maria Zakharova, the Russian Foreign Affairs spokeperson, in a short dress

...I assume she twists and shouts for the newsroom...

Originally Posted by tomcat

Tomcat doesnt have anything original to say...

Here's one for you;

Yes Prime Minister - Official Secrets - Expelling the Russians

The more I think about this the more sure I am that it was not Russia that made the attempt on the lives of these two unfortunate victims.

Russia had absolutely nothing to gain from such an act and everything to lose as these two were and are no threat to Russia.

The reaction of those who need Russia as an enemy is enough to show that it was a planned anti Russian operation not only to isolate Russia as much as possible but to reinforce the false impression that she and her leader are the enemies of the west.

Now the "B"word has emerged, something I have been expecting and now we will see this pushed hard in the coming weeks.

When the truth eventually emerges and it will for there must have been quite a few people involved in the planning and carrying out this atrocity, in time at least one of them will become disgusted with what they were part of then files and documents will appear and someone will go down hard and it will not be Russia.

Originally Posted by Neo

Tomcat doesnt have anything original to say...

...we must have a lot in common then...

Originally Posted by birding

The more I think about this the more sure I am that it was not Russia that made the attempt on the lives of these two unfortunate victims.

Nothing to add to this other than I agree.

There are so many poisonous substances available to every powerful secrets service. Purpose of those things is there are not so easily disoverable, for an easy disposal of inconvenient persons. Only in very few cases there is some suspision, mostly only when it is to be exploited politically.

Wondering why about the other Russian spy Glushkov who died few days after the Skripals case has not been made such noise like with the Skripals. And not so directly attributed to dangerous Mr. Putin.

And all these guys including the poor Litvinenko years ago were closely connected with the famous oligarch Boris Berezovsky who also mysteriously died. No money spent for their inquest?

Originally Posted by tomcat

Originally Posted by Klondyke
However, that the allegations afterwards - after the Olympics - have been nullified, it has not been publicized (almost)...
...RT link required...

What's a link to you?

Are there any elections due in the UK soon? May must be desperate.

Originally Posted by sabang

It appears certain the hit happened at his home, given that's where the PC copped a dose. His daughter may be the perp, but Russki's don't think so.

I think it's possible it came via the daughter but unwittingly. Perhaps she gave him a gift that was laced with some poison/nerve agent but I doubt she knew it otherwise she'd be not only kiling her father but committing suicide too. Perhaps the gift was a gift from somebody else and given via the daughter, or perhaps it was a gift from the daughter but the gift had been tampered with by someone else without her knowledge.

Originally Posted by sabang

given that's where the PC copped a dose

Allegedly? In and out in a couple of days?

Interesting interview on Channel 4 news last night.

When John Snow asks the Estonian prime minister why she expelled Russian diplomats, she replies "because we trust the British Government"

https://www.channel4.com/news/presid...putin-language

If all these expulsions are based on trusting the British Government, then I hope they can provide some compelling evidence in the very near future.

...or perhaps aliens delivered the nerve gas via thought transmissions...I expect an RT report imminently...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...or perhaps aliens delivered the nerve gas via thought transmissions...I expect an RT report imminently...

as usually, a valuable comment that does not disappoint your fan club...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

a valuable comment that does not disappoint

...RT-inspired comment supports alien nerve gas theory!...

Originally Posted by tomcat

RT-inspired comment

They get the marching orders directly from their dear leader don't ya know.

UPDATE: Salisbury investigation

News • Mar 28, 2018 20:19 BST


"Deputy Assistant Commissioner Dean Haydon, Senior National Coordinator for Counter Terrorism Policing said: “At this point in our investigation, we believe the Skripals first came into contact with the nerve agent from their front door. We are therefore focusing much of our efforts in and around their address. Those living in the Skripals’ neighbourhood can expect to see officers carrying out searches as part of this but I want to reassure them that the risk remains low and our searches are precautionary."


Was this what our gallant Detective Sargent, "employed " at a neighbouring police force, was trying to clean off when he visited the house? After confirming to MI* that the two victims had succumbed to poison?

Did he get some on his own body, necessitation his quick trip to the hospital, where he was "cured" in a day or so?

Was he "cured" because he knew what the poison was and could inform the doctor, allowing Porton Down to quickly despatch the antidote, enabling the doctor to save his life?

Originally Posted by OhOh

UPDATE: Salisbury investigation

News • Mar 28, 2018 20:19 BST




"Deputy Assistant Commissioner Dean Haydon, Senior National Coordinator for Counter Terrorism Policing said: “At this point in our investigation, we believe the Skripals first came into contact with the nerve agent from their front door. We are therefore focusing much of our efforts in and around their address. Those living in the Skripals’ neighbourhood can expect to see officers carrying out searches as part of this but I want to reassure them that the risk remains low and our searches are precautionary."

Fortunately the Skripals front door has been guarded by a Chemical Weapons expert wearing protective gear, oh wait.....

Chinese comment:

Russian diplomat expulsions signal crude side of Western intention

The West is only a small fraction of the world and is nowhere near the global representative it once thought it was. The silenced minorities within the international community need to realize this and prove just how deep their understanding is of such a realization by proving it to the world through action. With the Skripal case, the general public does not know the truth, and the British government has yet to provide a shred of evidence justifying their allegations against Russia.

It is firmly believed that accusations levied by one country to another that are not the end results of a thorough and professional investigation should not be encouraged. Simultaneously expelling diplomats is a form of uncivilized behavior that needs to be abolished immediately.

Russian diplomat expulsions signal crude side of Western intention - Global Times

Originally Posted by OhOh

we believe the Skripals first came into contact with the nerve agent from their front door.

Nerve agent kills within minutes of skin contact. Not a couple of hours later.

Novichoks were designed to be more toxic than other chemical weapons, so some versions would begin to take effect rapidly - in the order of 30 seconds ...

An arcticle which lays out exactly the relationship between the UK Gov. Porton Down, Ukranie Gov. and ameristan Gov. continuing in"assiting each other" by experimenting with various chemical and biological weapons of mass detruction on animals and humans.

Salisbury Nerve Agent Attack Reveals $70 Million Pentagon Program at Porton Down

Posted on March 28, 2018Natural Health News

"The Pentagon has spent at least $70 million on military experiments involving tests with deadly viruses and chemical agents at Porton Down – the UK military laboratory near the city of Salisbury. The secretive biological and chemical research facility is located just 13 km from where on 4th March former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were found slumped on a bench following an alleged Novichok nerve agent poisoning."

Innumerable contracts, secret agreements, government orders, reports ...

https://www.naturalblaze.com/2018/03...n-program.html

A selection:

Utilising the London Underground System for "research".

"2013 DSTL, ANL, LBNL, BNL Dft (UK), DHS5 PFTs, SF6 Urea London Underground Liquid aerosol droplet, lack of sensitivity/specificity


https://data.gov.uk/data/contracts-finder-archive/contract/261565/


https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Env%20Assessment%2C%20DHS%20S%26T%2C%20NYC%20Subwa y%20UTR.PDF



Testing VX gas optained from Syria by OPCW.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4991253/


ameristani contracts with Porton Down.

https://govtribe.com/contract/award/...0%3B100&page=2

https://govtribe.com/contract/idv/hdtra112d0003

https://govtribe.com/project/ukdstl-...n-and-exchange

https://govtribe.com/contract/idv/hdtra112d0003

Experimental respiratory anthrax infection in the common marmoset (Callithrix jacchus) similar with Ebola. Interesting that the male victim had these types of animals at his home.



Guinea pigs were found in the house of the poisoned ex-spy in Salisbury, just a few kilometers away from Porton Down, where such guinea pigs were used for nerve agent chemical tests.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3607144/


https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/212/suppl_2/S336/2194364


Porton Down: Animal Experiments:Written question - 43677 - UK Parliamenthttps://www.gov.uk/government/upload...2017-04492.pdf

ameristani collusion with Ukraine in the CW area.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/documents/organization/95251.pdf

.......... and on and on and on. Not a clean hand to be found. I suspect others have similar unknown agreements.

But hopefully all known by OPCW and recorded there one presumes.

One wonders how a governments leader could suggest that there is only one sources of an "unknown" chemical weapon and accuse a country of an act of war.

Originally Posted by OhOh

One wonders

...to date, the wonderers are in a vanishing minority, dearest rtOhOh...