Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

Here are the speeches by the UNSC members on the Salisbury Incident held on the 14th March:

Nothing particularly new.

https://www.un.org/press/en/2018/sc13247.doc.htm

The Times claimed Britain knew about the existence of the facility where the novichok was made before the attack on 4 March, and had a high degree of certainty that the nerve agent was manufactured there.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...n-intelligence

So.. British intelligence knew of a facility, presumably on British soil, that could produce deadly nerve agents... and did nothing about it.

*ponders whether to use 'scratch chin' or 'laugh out loud' smilie*

A functional British press would have investigated whether our foreign secretary may have lied to the world about the activities of another country, but alas the media’s leading lights were too busy implying Jeremy Corbyn’s attempts at urging caution were evidence of some kind of fervent lack of patriotism.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...on-down-russia

and before the peanut gallery start moaning.. Cujo posted the link, he's just not smart enough to get beyond the headlines

Originally Posted by Cujo

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...n-intelligence

Case closed evidence found in Salisbury:

anonymous source ? isn't that the code name for Mossad fed propaganda ?

The Moto sales guy is probably a former intelligent officer, retired to commercial activities

Allegedly a recording of the lady who was poisoned with a"military grade chemical weapon, lethal in seconds, from Russia". As you can imagine the recording played by a Russian TV station, translated into english by who knows who, and re-broadcast by the clique government funded BBC is being questioned. But here it is:

"
Transcript of recorded conversation

The hosts of the 60 Minute show on state-owned Rossiya 1 - Yevgeny Popov and Olga Skabeyeva - said they were unable to confirm the authenticity of the phone call.

Viktoria: Hello?

"Yulia": Hello. Can you hear me?

Viktoria: Yes, I can hear you.

"Yulia": It is Yulia Skripal.
Viktoria: Oh, Yulka [diminutive of Yulia] it's you! I can tell it's you from your voice but I don't understand. So, they gave you a telephone, did they?
"Yulia": Yes, yes.

Viktoria: Thanks God! Yulyasha [diminutive of Yulia], is everything okay?
"Yulia": Everything's ok, everything's fine.
Viktoria: Look, if tomorrow I get a [British] visa, I'll come to you on Monday.
"Yulia": Vika, no-one will give you a visa.

Viktoria: Well I thought so too. Oh well.

"Yulia": Most likely.
Viktoria: If they do, I need you to tell me whether I can visit you or not, tell me that I can.

"Yulia": I don't think so, that's the situation at the moment, we'll sort it out later.
Viktoria: I know, I know.

"Yulia": Later, we'll get it sorted later, everything's fine, we'll see later.
Viktoria: Is that your phone?
"Yulia": It's a temporary phone. Everything's fine, but we'll see how it goes, we'll decide later. You know what the situation is here. Everything is fine, everything is solvable, everyone is recovering and is alive.
Viktoria: Understood. Is everything ok with your dad?
"Yulia": Everything's ok. He's resting now, having a sleep. Everyone's health is fine, there's nothing that can't be put right. I'll be discharged soon. Everything is ok.
Viktoria: Kisses, babes.
"Yulia": Bye.
The recording was reportedly made on the morning of 5 April"

Russian spy poisoning: Yulia Skripal 'getting stronger daily' - BBC News

So another 2 recover from what can be only regarded as a lethal dose of nerve agent. I find that unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

anonymous source ? isn't that the code name for Mossad fed propaganda ?

and Cambridge Analytica and ....

George Soros?

The Illuminati..

Spy poisoning: Russia says UK is 'playing with fire'



Media captionMoscow's UN ambassador Vasily Nebenzia: "You are playing with fire and you will be sorry"Russia has accused the UK of inventing a "fake story" and "playing with fire" over the Salisbury spy poisoning.
At a UN Security Council meeting, Moscow's UN ambassador Vasily Nebenzia said Britain's main goal had been "to discredit and even delegitimise" Russia with "unsubstantiated accusations".
The UK says Russia is behind the attack but Moscow denies responsibility.
Britain's UN representative Karen Pierce said the UK's actions "stand up to any scrutiny".
She likened Moscow's requests to take part in the investigation to an arsonist investigating his own fire.

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Russian former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were found unconscious in Salisbury on 4 March.
Ms Skripal, 33, is recovering in hospital and has released a statement saying her "strength is growing daily".
Her father, 66, remains critically ill but stable.
Meanwhile it has emerged that when police sealed off Mr Skripal's home at the start of the investigation. there were two guinea pigs and a cat inside. The BBC understands the guinea pigs died of starvation and the cat, distressed from dehydration, was put down.
'Propaganda war'

Moscow called the special meeting of the Security Council in New York to discuss the attack, saying Britain had "legitimate questions" to answer.
Mr Nebenzia said the accusations were "horrific and unsubstantiated", and claimed the UK was waging a "propaganda war" against Russia.
He said Novichok - the group of nerve agent used in the poisoning - is "not copyrighted by Russia, in spite of the obviously Russian name" and has been developed in many countries.
"It's some sort of theatre of the absurd. Couldn't you come up with a better fake story?" he asked.
In his statement to the 15-member council, Mr Nebenzia questioned why Russia would eliminate someone using a "dangerous and highly public" method.
He contrasted the use of a chemical with the "hundreds of clever ways of killing someone" shown in British series Midsomer Murders.



Sergei Skripal, 66, and his daughter Yulia, 33, remain in hospital

Responding, the British Ambassador to the UN, Karen Pierce, accused Russia of seeking to "undermine the international institutions that have kept us safe since the Second World War".
She said Russia came under suspicion for several reasons, saying it had "a record of conducting state-sponsored assassinations" and that it "views defectors as suitable targets for assassination".
Ms Pierce told delegates that Russia's request to visit Ms Skripal had been passed on and "we await her response".
"Ms Skripal's own wishes need to be taken into account," Ms Pierce added.
'Unprecedented'

On Friday, former foreign secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that Russia's comments were a "classic Russian attempt to obfuscate".
He said: "They are in a very serious position because it's not just the UK that has taken action against them. In an unprecedented way, that did not even happen in the Cold War, 29 countries have withdrawn their diplomats."
He also said the UK had shared "highly classified information" with the other countries which was also "unprecedented".
Meanwhile, US representative Kelley Currie said Russia was attempting to use the Security Council "for political gains", adding: "This is not a tactic that is appropriate for this body."
It comes amid an escalating diplomatic crisis between Moscow and the West as 60 expelled US envoys left Russia on Thursday.



Russian news channel airs Yulia Skripal hospital 'recording

'More than 20 countries have expelled Russian envoys in solidarity with the UK, following Britain's initial expulsion of 23 Russian diplomats.
The UK government has constantly maintained Russia was behind the attack, claiming there is "no other plausible explanation".

Chemical weapons expert Hamish De Bretton Gordon said he had seen some of the intelligence in the Skripals' case and was "100% sure" Russia was responsible.
He told BBC Radio 5 live "we know almost 100%" that Novichok, which requires a "sophisticated laboratory, a lot of money, resources and expertise to make", was made at Shikhany, a military facility "the size of Salisbury" in central Russia, and the agent used in the attack on the Skripals was "military grade".
He added: "We are talking a tiny amount [of Novichok], a quarter of an egg cup full which would be very easy to smuggle."

'Against transparency'

On Wednesday, Russia proposed a joint investigation into the poisoning but the idea was voted down by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
In a press conference, Russian ambassador to the UK, Alexander Yakovenko, said it marked a vote against "transparency".
Meanwhile on Thursday, in a statement issued through UK police, Ms Skripal thanked those who came to her and her father's aid.
It came shortly after Russian TV aired a recording of an alleged phone conversation between Ms Skripal and her cousin.
Doubts were raised over the authenticity of the recording but the cousin, Viktoria, has told Newsnight she is 100% certain it was Yulia.

Spy poisoning: Russia says UK is 'playing with fire' - BBC News

Infowars

I do not believe that they will not find something "really convincing". After such huge action and after so many money spent - and when so much is in stake?
Some kind of "dossier" will surely come up...

Russian spy poisoning: Sergei Skripal 'improving rapidly'

Russian former spy Sergei Skripal is no longer in a critical condition after being poisoned by a nerve agent, doctors have said.
Salisbury District Hospital said Mr Skripal is responding well to treatment and "improving rapidly".
Mr Skripal, 66, and his daughter Yulia, 33, have been in hospital for more than a month after being found unconscious on a bench in Salisbury.
They had been poisoned with a toxic nerve agent called Novichok.
Ms Skripal is conscious and talking in hospital.

Russian spy poisoning: Sergei Skripal 'improving rapidly' - BBC News

so it's was another sexed up dossier after all, like the one under Tony Blair

they never learn,

Originally Posted by OhOh

Viktoria: Look, if tomorrow I get a [British] visa, I'll come to you on Monday.
"Yulia": Vika, no-one will give you a visa.

She was right, the visa denied...

Originally Posted by Begbie

Russian spy poisoning: Sergei Skripal 'improving rapidly'

Russian former spy Sergei Skripal is no longer in a critical condition after being poisoned by a nerve agent, doctors have said.
Salisbury District Hospital said Mr Skripal is responding well to treatment and "improving rapidly".
Mr Skripal, 66, and his daughter Yulia, 33, have been in hospital for more than a month after being found unconscious on a bench in Salisbury.
They had been poisoned with a toxic nerve agent called Novichok.
Ms Skripal is conscious and talking in hospital.

Russian spy poisoning: Sergei Skripal 'improving rapidly' - BBC News

Oh, so Novichoc isn't deadly toxic after all.