Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

Originally Posted by Neo

the sheeple have been fed..

Indeed you have and the sheer volume of bogus RT links you have crammed into this thread is proof of it. You are easily conned by your little puppet master in the Kremlin.

Originally Posted by OhOh

"Meanwhile the police have placed cordons round a children's play area at Montgomery Gardens near Mr Skripal's home." [It's actually 25 miles away but "near" is close enough eh?]

Actually it is very near. Montgomery Gardens is the name of a road off Christie Miller Road (where Skripal lives).

Originally Posted by bsnub

You are easily conned by your little puppet master in the Kremlin.

"Who pays an exceptional stipend", you missed that out.

Not like the unexceptional leaders who bend you aver and abuse you until you cannot amuse them anymore.

FYI.

Originally Posted by Troy

Lots of different variants of nerve agent Pragmatic and different variants of Novichok. Have they found out how the agent was administered? It could have been a weaker variant in powder form.

Irrespective of what nerve agent variant it was they're all treated basically the same

https://chemm.nlm.nih.gov/antidote_nerveagents.htm

The latest claim is that the agent was in gel form and smeared on the Ruskie's front door handle.

And before OhOh claims there is no children's play area in Montgomery Gardens in Salisbury ...



https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.07...7i13312!8i6656

You're so easily taken in, nev.

That is clearly a listening post for MI5.

The equipment is not even three dimensional.

Notice how the shadow of the swings is on the left, but the shadows on the right of the pic. are on the right of the equipment.

I'm calling doctored pic.

^ Yep. Good call. The picture clearly shows a play area transposed into Google maps by MI5/MI6. The original play area "actually" comes from the House of Commons play area. If you look closely you can just about make out Theresa May's name written on the slide and Boris Johnson's on the swings.

Originally Posted by Neverna

You can see inside the house here (link below) - as it was before Skripal lived there. Bought for 260,000 in 2011.

That’s frightening, £260,000 for a semi detached former council house. Thatcher has a lot to answer for. She should be dug up and shot.

The equipment in the play area is clearly unused.

It was taken from a secret MI5 warehouse 25 miles away and installed in a hurry by fake police officers.

Google maps colluded in the deception.

In fact, nobody was poisoned, the former spy & daughter have been kidnapped and are being held in an illegal interrogation center commissioned by the Illuminati. It's located underneath the fake playground.

If you look closely, you can spot the handle and hinges on the roundabout. Near the swing, one can still detect traces of bodies dragged across the sand.

What is the significance of the number 25, you may ask. Look up the writings of the 7th book, it's all there.

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Ah, another one easily misled by the Illuminati owned MSM and MI6 controlled Google...

Originally Posted by stroller

Ah, another one easily misled by the Illuminati owned MSM and MI6 controlled Google...

I'll appologise if I'm wrong but I ain't. https://www.spirefm.co.uk/news/local...investigation/

Originally Posted by Neverna

as it was before Skripal lived there. Bought for 260,000 in 2011.

Surely after years of saving pence to pence (kopeika to kopeika?)

Originally Posted by tomcat

I expect an RT report imminently...

I have to laugh how somebody cocks his nose over some sources. "It's a state run source, such is nothing for me, I believe only the ones not run by a state, the case closed."

Really? You do believe such "recognized" one that's run by corporations? And how a corporation is controlled? To whom do a corporation respond? Surely not to the public.

Unlike a source "run by a state" where always are the means for public control.

Pity of such people who do not use their brain and feel so übermensch over some sources...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Surely after years of saving pence to pence (kopeika to kopeika?)

A tidy sum for a Russian, be it on released from prison or a public servant. One wonders how many UK prisoners, upon release, purchase such properties.

Russian investigators seek UK legal support in case of Skripal’s daughter

"MOSCOW, March 29 (RAPSI) – The Investigative Committee of Russia has forwarded a request to the UK authorities seeking legal support in a criminal case over attempted murder of Yulia Skripal, the daughter of the former Russian intelligence officer Sergey Skripal, the Committee’s press-service has stated.

The Investigative Committee has provided the request to the Prosecutor General’s Office for official transfer to British authorities.


Investigators ask their counterparts in the United Kingdom to establish the circumstances of the crime and provide copies of the case documents including reports on examination of the place where Skripal was found as well as the results of her medical examination. The Committee noted that it is ready to cooperate with the Great Britain in this case.


On March 4, ex-Russian intelligence officer Sergey Skripal, who was found guilty of espionage in favor of the UK in 2006 and pardoned later, and his daughter Yulia were affected by a powerful nerve agent. Currently, both of them are in critical condition in a British hospital. Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Theresa May accused Russia of unlawful use of force in Great Britain. Russia denies the accusations.

Later, Russian authorities launched a criminal case over attempted murder of Yulia Skripal in Salisbury."

Russian investigators seek UK legal support in case of Skripal?s daughter | Russian Legal Information Agency (RAPSI).
Investigative Committee of Russia

"The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation (Russian: Следственный комитет Российской Федерации) has since January 2011 been the main federal investigating authority in Russia. Its name (Sledstvennyi komitet) is usually abbreviated to Sledkom (Russian: Следком). The agency replaced the Russian Prosecutor General's Investigative Committee and operates as Russia's anti-corruption agency. It is answerable to the President of Russia and has statutory responsibility for inspecting the police forces, combating police corruption and police misconduct and is responsible for conducting investigations into local authorities and federal governmental bodies."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invest...ttee_of_Russia

29 March 201821:20
Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s reply to a media question about Russia’s retaliation against the expulsion of Russian diplomats, Moscow, March 29, 2018

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"Question: Will you retaliate against the expulsion of Russian diplomats using tit-for-tat methods or something stronger?

Sergey Lavrov: We will retaliate in kind, but there will be more. Virtually right now, US Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman is at the Ministry and Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov is explaining to him the substance of our retaliatory measures with regard to the United States. These include the expulsion of the same number of US diplomats and our decision to withdraw our consent to the operation of the US Consulate General in St Petersburg. As for the number of diplomatic mission staff from the other countries who will be leaving Russia, it is also a tit-for-tat procedure. Basically, this is it.


I would like to say right away that in addition, we want to do more than just respond to the absolutely unacceptable actions taken against us under the harshest ever US and British pressure predicated on the “Skripal case.” By the way, I would like to mention with some satisfaction that earlier today the British authorities informed us about the condition of at least Yulia Skripal. They said Yulia is rapidly recovering. We again urged them to provide us with access to Yulia as a Russian citizen. I hope our British counterparts will be able to perform its obligations under the Consular Convention and the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.


We will not just respond reactively to what the Anglo-Saxon tandem is doing with regard to Russia, forcing everyone to follow the anti-Russian course. We would like to establish the truth. Since the very start of this crisis, we have repeatedly stated that British Prime Minister Theresa May has baselessly accused Russia of being implicated in the poisoning of Sergey Skripal and his daughter. She urged us in an ultimatum-like manner to answer a question that could not be answered: she demanded that, within 24 hours, we confirm that the Russian leadership had ordered the poisoning of the Skripals or that they had lost control over their chemical arsenal. Clearly, it is impossible to respond to these things, even if we tried hard to find some answers. Instead, we suggested that they refer to international law, the Chemical Weapons Convention which contains a special article. Under this article, if any party to the CWC has questions for another party, it is recommended that they get in contact with each other, hold a bilateral exchange of views and information, and hold consultations. Great Britain arrogantly turned this down and instead dug out of the CWC a technical clause to the effect that a party to the Convention can apply to the OPCW Technical Secretariat for technical assistance. Under that clause, OPCW experts have now arrived in Britain at its invitation to form an opinion and analyse the substance, which, as the British allege, was used to poison Sergey and Yulia Skripal. I would like to note right away that this article only enables the OPCW Technical Secretariat to identify the chemical composition of a substance that will be presented for analysis. The OPCW Technical Secretariat has no power to confirm or verify Britain’s conclusions. It has no such rights. Also, the investigation itself is not over yet. As you know, Scotland Yard says that it will take months, but the verdict has been returned nonetheless. This is sad, because we have not seen so much mockery of international law for quite a long time.


To get a normal discussion and to establish the truth, we have officially proposed to convene an extraordinary session of the OPCW Executive Council on April 4, where we will present a summary of the specific questions that we have repeatedly asked. I hope that our Western partners will not evade an honest conversation. Otherwise they will confirm once again that what is happening is a premeditated gross provocation.


Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov?s reply to a media question about Russia?s retaliation against the expulsion of Russian diplomats, Moscow, March 29, 2018 - News - The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation

Russia reads the riot act to US

“The video of Pakistan Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi nonchalantly zipping up his trousers at the JFK airport in New York after the frisking when he landed on American soil recently, gives a dismal feeling. But one would say, ‘No surprises here!’ No, I’m not making a ‘anti-Pakistan’ statement. Frankly, 90 percent of the Indian elite would also any day be only too eager to unzip their trousers if that was what was needed to be permitted to enter the US. Remember the famous incident of the stripping of an Indian Defence Minister right down to his underwear at the JFK airport? It is in their DNA – be it Abbasis or Bhatias and Suris. Pathetic. Their argument is a familiar one – only the West can provide us investments and new technology, management practices and facilitate integration into global technological chains. Of course, Indian pundits went overboard by expounding that the George W Bush administration was determined to make their country a ‘great power’ and a ‘counterweight’ to China, and make it America’s ‘natural ally’ and so on.

That is why this morning’s news of the expulsion of 60 American diplomats posted in Russia brings cheer. To be frank, I was skeptical whether Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov would be able to keep his word when he said earlier this week that Russia would retaliate. The point is, Russia also has its fair share of the ‘westernists’ among its elite. Even after all that has happened in Russia’s relations with the US in the recent years and notwithstanding the foul air that envelops them, there are Russian strategists who still argue that America is an indispensable partner for Russia.

Therefore, Moscow’s decision to give back to the Americans fully in their own coin marks a new stage. First, Russians have assessed that the controversy over the Skripal spy case is in reality an Anglo-American joint venture – and not a solo act by London. Evidently, the feedback from various European capitals would be that they came under immense American pressure to follow the US-UK lead and expel Russian diplomats. Which means there is a deliberate American strategy to degrade Russia’s relations with the West. There is really no sense in Moscow trying to salvage the situation by making conciliatory moves.

Second, Russians are no longer making a distinction between President Trump and the so-called Deep State in America. They will henceforth attack Trump’s policies on merit. Put differently, Trump cannot have it both ways – being pally with Vladimir Putin on the phone while also acting bloody-mindedly toward Russia on the policy front. The Russians couldn’t care a damn anymore as to who is the “real Trump” or whether he is only trying to placate the “swamp” in the Beltway.

Third, most important, Russia is assessing that the only language Washington understands is the language of strength. This of course has profound consequences for regional and international security. Indeed, there are serious limitations today to the US’ capacity to browbeat Russia. The US policies are inconsistent and fickle whereas Russian foreign policy is rational, coherent and stable. The American society is hopelessly split and polarized whereas Russian society is consolidated and stands united. Trump can never match anywhere near the groundswell of support Putin enjoys from the Russian nation.

In geopolitical terms, the US’ transatlantic leadership role is shaky. Interestingly, while making token expulsion of Russian diplomats on Monday, Germany also simultaneously gave the final clearance for the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project from Russia, defying the US opposition. French President Emmanuel Macron just signaled his plan to visit Russia in May. Austria point blank turned down the US-UK demarche seeking expulsion of Russian diplomats. May 12 becomes a crucial dateline: if Trump tears up the Iran nuclear deal, there may be mutiny by the US’ European allies.

On the other hand, China has signaled its interest to further strengthen the quasi-alliance with Russia. The Chinese Ministry of Defence said on Thursday that Beijing and Moscow will “jointly defend the interests of the two states and also maintain regional and global peace and stability.” No doubt, it is a hugely resonant statement in the prevailing backdrop. The Chinese Defence Minister Wei Fenghe is visiting Moscow next week.

In strategic terms, too, the new weapon systems developed by Russia (announced by Putin on March 1) reinforce the country’s capacity to maintain global strategic balance for the foreseeable future. The hypersonic missiles, in particular, are unique and can be decisively lethal in a Russia-US confrontation. Significantly, the Russian note verbale on Thursday declaring the expulsion of 60 American diplomats gives a pointed warning to the Trump administration that any seizure of Russian assets in the US “will lead to a serious deterioration in bilateral relations, which will result in dire consequences for global stability.” Read the defiant remarks by Lavrov regarding the expulsion of American diplomats.”

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakuma...iot-act-to-us/

Originally Posted by Neverna

infected with OhOh27 BS agent.

A good read of events.

NHS Doctor: "No Patients Have Experienced Symptoms Of Nerve Agent Poisoning In Salisbury"

The Skripal poisoning case stinks. The British government is obviously not telling the truth about it. It uses the script of a recent spy drama to allege a 'Novichok' attack to implicate Russia and to raise anti-Russian sentiment. Information about the case is evidently held back. The media is mostly complicit.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/no-patients-have-experienced-symptoms-of-nerve-agent-poisoning-in-salisbury.html

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

www.moonofalabama.org

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