Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

They wouldn't have discharged him if he hadn't.


May be the only person to still be alive after being subjected to a 'nerve agent' that there is no antidote for. Unbelievable. Whack jobs etc etc.

I think you're missing the point. I think the reason he said that "'normal’ life for me will probably never be the same" is because doctors have told him what he can expect.

Before former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia collapsed on a park bench in Salisbury on 4 March, the only other person confirmed to suffer the effects of novichok was a young Soviet chemical weapons scientist.
“Circles appeared before my eyes: red and orange. A ringing in my ears, I caught my breath. And a sense of fear: like something was about to happen,” Andrei Zheleznyakov told the now-defunct newspaper Novoye Vremya, describing the 1987 weapons lab incident that exposed him to a nerve agent that would eventually kill him. “I sat down on a chair and told the guys: ‘It’s got me.’”
By 1992, when the interview was published, the nerve agent had gutted Zheleznyakov’s central nervous system. Less than a year later he was dead, after battling cirrhosis, toxic hepatitis, nerve damage and epilepsy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...soned-novichok

Originally Posted by tomcat

"Knowing your post contains deliberate distortions is worse than the submission of mere inaccuracies because some errors only make readers angry while being misled destroys their trust." -Tomcat

"Wot 'e said, innit" - Me.

Originally Posted by misskit

EU backs Britain in blaming Russia for spy attack

United we were, united we became again. Time for a new Brexit referendum now?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I think you're missing the point. I think the reason he said that "'normal’ life for me will probably never be the same" is because doctors have told him what he can expect.

"'normal’ life for me will probably never be the same" because his face/name has been plastered over the news worldwide. Not because he suffered lasting medical problems from nerve agent contamination. He can't even go down to Tesco's with the wife and kids now without getting stared, and pointed, at. Normal life for him and his family is now fcuked.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Normal life for him and his family is now fcuked.

...nonsense: once the stink of nerve gas fades and his twitching is within normal parameters, the worst that will happen is he'll be mistaken for a veteran...

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Not because he suffered lasting medical problems from nerve agent contamination.

Of course not because being shunned socially is far worse than....

By 1992, when the interview was published, the nerve agent had gutted Zheleznyakov’s central nervous system. Less than a year later he was dead, after battling cirrhosis, toxic hepatitis, nerve damage and epilepsy.

SMH

Grow your own dope. Plant a pom.

A nerve agent that takes five years to kill it's victims. Very useful in a battlefield situation.

Originally Posted by Begbie

A nerve agent that takes five years to kill it's victims. Very useful in a battlefield situation.

He was only exposed because of a hood malfunction and received the antidote almost immediately.

The case of a Russian military scientist accidentally exposed to Novichok appears to show that even surviving the effects of the supertoxic nerve agent is horrific.
Andrei Zheleznyakov was said to have been injected with an antidote almost immediately, but a friend said he still went from being a jovial, creative man to suffering “chronic weakness, toxic hepatitis, epilepsy, severe depression and an inability to concentrate”, before dying five years later.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8253976.html

Andrei Zheleznyakov was said to have been injected with an antidote almost immediately, but a friend said he still went from being a jovial, creative man to suffering “chronic weakness, toxic hepatitis, epilepsy, severe depression and an inability to concentrate”, before dying five years later.

But nothing to indicate that the nerve agent was the cause of death.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

But nothing to indicate that the nerve agent was the cause of death.

"He died in 1993 of a brain seizure".

Any proof that the Russians did it yet?

Originally Posted by Neo

Any proof that the Russians did it yet?

Highly likely is the new proof for now..
Don't expect the proof finding committee to present a result "without any doubt" in the near future, they are all busy searching for Saddams weapon of mass destruction.

Originally Posted by mcgoo

eh?

...solid Canadian riposte...

Originally Posted by mcgoo

But you trust the russians eh?

They are angels in heaven who can do no wrong as far as Neo and OhDoh are concerned.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Neo and OhDoh

...RT uber alles!...

......oops! Red for stepping on a sensitive RT nerve...

Thread: Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance
an argument?

24-03-2018 07:27 AM
Klondyke

Originally Posted by lom

Take action when there is proof, shutup when there only is unproven theories.

...RT has openings for contributors...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...RT has openings for contributors...

Probably, but that is quite irrelevant in this case.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...RT has openings for contributors...

Any argument?

...^ah, I thought this was an audition thread...

Originally Posted by mcgoo

But you trust the russians eh?

The impartial OPCW, are looking at the UK supplied "evidence" as we speak. Very similar to the terrorist supplied "evidence" in Syria.

Which could equally dismissed as "contaminated", by the OPCW team or other interested parties.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The impartial OPCW, are looking at the UK supplied "evidence" as we speak. Very similar to the terrorist supplied "evidence" in Syria.

Which could equally dismissed as "contaminated", by the OPCW team or other interested parties.

It wasn't going to be long before the whackjobs started trying to discredit the OPCW was it?

So he didn't invade Crimea then

No, he didn't. But you already know that. Of course, if you can show me some (photoshopped) pictures of invading armies, battlefield casualties etc I might stoop to take a second look- but until then, the crushing result of the Crimean Parliamentary Referendum is proof enough.

Meanwhile, ain't newly Coup installed democratic Ukraine doing well.

Originally Posted by sabang

No, he didn't. But you already know that. Of course, if you can show me some (photoshopped) pictures of invading armies, battlefield casualties etc I might stoop to take a second look- but until then, the crushing result of the Crimean Parliamentary Referendum is proof enough.

Meanwhile, ain't newly Coup installed democratic Ukraine doing well.

It's hard to say what planet you whackjobs come from where you don't think moving into a sovereign state with troops and military equipment and annexing their territory doesn't count as "invading".....