Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance

**Neo** · 16-04-2018, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Using his own logic, it's clear that Neo doesn't actually have a mind of his own!

You think its ok for Trump to bomb Syria against international law q.e.d. you're a Trump apologist, or as your best mate snub would say.. you suck Trump's cock.

**Klondyke** · 16-04-2018, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

Trump to bomb Syria against international law

Not only the international law but his own country's law. Same case in UK and France.

However, all this kind of people, who cares about a law?

**harrybarracuda** · 17-04-2018, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Neo

You think its ok for Trump to bomb Syria against international law q.e.d. you're a Trump apologist, or as your best mate snub would say.. you suck Trump's cock.

Stop with your perverted fantasies, and stop being an idiot.

There is a reason I refer to him as "Baldy Orange Cunto" you complete moron.

**bsnub** · 17-04-2018, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Neo

cos you haven't added anything of interest to this thread

And you have? Smh

Originally Posted by Neo

You think its ok for Trump to bomb Syria against international law q.e.d. you're a Trump apologist, or as your best mate snub would say

You really are an idiot. Where did I ever say that I supported tRump boming Syria? I am a tRump apologist? Pull your head out Neo.

**Neo** · 17-04-2018, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Stop with your perverted fantasies, and stop being an idiot.

There is a reason I refer to him as "Baldy Orange Cunto" you complete moron.

Bomb them you baldy orange cunto gargle gargle gargle raise my stocks big daddy

You're a sick man harry

**Neo** · 17-04-2018, 11:24 AM

snub ...

**harrybarracuda** · 17-04-2018, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

Bomb them you baldy orange cunto gargle gargle gargle raise my stocks big daddy

You're a sick man harry

Now you're just waffling as well. It seems to be the modus operandus of the Putin girls choir when they run out of ideas (which is often).

**OhOh** · 17-04-2018, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
^Which "comments" are you referring too?
You need to go to Specsavers my son. I never mentioned "comments", you did.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Now you're just waffling

Exactly my point. A headline dick.

Former Russian spy critically ill in Britain after exposure to unidentified substance-robed-jpg

All hat and no cattle.

**OhOh** · 17-04-2018, 11:11 PM

Here is part the public report produced by OPCW regarding the Salisbury Incident.:

6. The team requested and received splits of samples taken by British authorities for delivery to the OPCW Laboratory in Rijswijk, the Netherlands, and subsequent analysis by OPCW designated laboratories. This was done for comparative purposes and to verify the analysis of the United Kingdom.

7. The team was briefed on the identity of the toxic chemical identified by the United Kingdom and was able to review analytical results and data from chemical analysis of biomedical samples collected by the British authorities from the affected individuals, as well as from environmental samples collected on site.

8. The results of analysis of biomedical samples conducted by OPCW designated laboratories demonstrate the exposure of the three hospitalised individuals to this toxic chemical.

9. The results of analysis of the environmental samples conducted by OPCW designated laboratories demonstrate the presence of this toxic chemical in the samples.

10. The results of analysis by the OPCW designated laboratories of environmental and biomedical samples collected by the OPCW team confirm the findings of the United Kingdom relating to the identity of the toxic chemical that was used in Salisbury and severely injured three people.

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/...12-2018_e_.pdf

Bear in mind this is the public version not the version available to the OPCW States representative. Also the "Inspected State Party" (ISP), the UK, can request changes to be made:

"Within the next 20 days, a draft final inspection report must be made available to the ISP, which has the right to propose changes to it. The Secretariat is to consider the suggested changes and, using its discretion, adopt them wherever possible. "

https://www.opcw.org/fileadmin/OPCW/Fact_Sheets/English/Fact_Sheet_5_-_Inspections.pdf

Some points of concern to some interested parties:

1. The OPCW designated labs were requested to analyse the samples (Item 6)
2. The OPCW designated labs were requested to verify the analysis of the UK. (Item 6)
3. The OPCW designated labs were briefed on the toxic chemical to identify/confirm. (Item 7)
4. The OPCW designated labs results of the analysed biomedical samples demonstrate the three victims were exposed to the UK claimed toxic chemical. (Item 8)
5. The OPCW designated labs results of the analysed environmental samples demonstrate the three victims were exposed to the UK claimed toxic chemical. (Item 9)
6. The OPCW designated labs results that the toxic chemical they were asked to look for was found in the samples provided.
7. The published lab results do not report any other toxic chemical possibly found and conclude the toxic chemical, identified as the target by the UK, and severely injured three people. (Item 10)

Some interested parties have suggested other chemicals were found, which could be the culprit, not the UK suggested one. Some are suggesting the "high quality" of the UK suggested toxic chemical, indicates "tampering", due to absence of natural degradation in a human over time.

One hopes the full analysis confirms that only the UK suggested toxic chemical was identified in the OPCW samples, delivered to the OPCE designated labs.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2018, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Some interested parties have suggested other chemicals were found

Translation: Russia lied again.

**Neo** · 18-04-2018, 01:13 AM

**OhOh** · 18-04-2018, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Translation: Russia lied again.

Only time will clarify the truth.

**Pragmatic** · 18-04-2018, 02:06 PM

Dr Rahaibani claims that there was no chemical attack and the video, post bombing, was genuine regarding children suffering shortness of breath, but says they were suffering from Hypoxia and not chemicals. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2018/04/17/no-evidence-of-chemical-attack-in-douma-doctor/

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2018, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Dr Rahaibani claims that there was no chemical attack and the video, post bombing, was genuine regarding children suffering shortness of breath, but says they were suffering from Hypoxia and not chemicals. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2018/04/17/no-evidence-of-chemical-attack-in-douma-doctor/

Yes, try and keep up.

We all know that Russia has kept the OPCW OUT of Douma because "it's not safe", but conveniently let an anti-American hack in to interview a stooge.

**Pragmatic** · 18-04-2018, 02:30 PM

The 'Hypoxia' was caused by implosions sucking out the air in the underground tunnels the children were sheltering. Nothing more nothing less.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2018, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

The 'Hypoxia' was caused by implosions sucking out the air in the underground tunnels the children were sheltering. Nothing more nothing less.

I'm glad you put it in quotes.

It means you know it's bollocks.

**Pragmatic** · 18-04-2018, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

We all know that Russia has kept the OPCW OUT of Douma because "it's not safe", but conveniently let an anti-American hack in to interview a stooge.

You know that for a fact, or a complete guess?

**OhOh** · 18-04-2018, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

We all know that Russia has kept the OPCW OUT of Douma because "it's not safe"

I believe the OPCW move when the, now in Syria, UN Department of Safety and Security (UNDSS) personnel, say so. Not on any other groups opinion.

"I hope that all necessary arrangements will be made through the UNDSS to allow the team to deploy to Douma as soon as possible. "

From my link in #909.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2018, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

You know that for a fact, or a complete guess?

We know they have kept the OPCW out because it's been widely reported.

We know Fisk hates the West with a passion because it's all he ever writes about (usually from the hotel pool).

And we know he miraculously was allowed to go where it "wasn't safe" and interview someone who just happened to back the Syrian government cover story.

And you believe it?

Wanna buy a bridge?

**Pragmatic** · 18-04-2018, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wanna buy a bridge?

Is it big?

**Neo** · 18-04-2018, 03:10 PM

harry the right wing stooge... what a sad little man

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2018, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

harry the right wing stooge... what a sad little man

Putin girls choir call others stooges.... Waffle at 11.

**OhOh** · 18-04-2018, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And we know he miraculously was allowed to go where it "wasn't safe"

Mr. Fisk decides for himself what he writes (2g/word I believe), where he goes (he's had his own flack jacket for 20 years) and who he talks too (multilingual?).

The OPCW team are told by their own OPCW UNDSS where and when they can move, Health and Safety it's called or possibly the OPCW Insurers on site rep.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2018, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Mr. Fisk decides for himself what he writes (2g/word I believe), where he goes (he's had his own flack jacket for 20 years) and who he talks too (multilingual?).

The OPCW team are told by their own OPCW UNDSS where and when they can move, Health and Safety it's called or possibly the OPCW Insurers on site rep.

Mr. Fisk would not have entered Douma without the aid of the Syrian government. It is surrounded, remember?

And yes, Mr. Fisk can choose what he wants to report... and for a long time now he has chosen anything that suits his preferred narrative rather than objective reporting.

**Begbie** · 18-04-2018, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Mr. Fisk would not have entered Douma without the aid of the Syrian government. It is surrounded, remember?
J
And yes, Mr. Fisk can choose what he want to report... and for a long time now he has chosen anything that suits his preferred narrative rather than objective reporting.

The irony of that last sentence obviously eludes you.

Fisk entered Douma after the Syrian government had retaken the area. He states clearly in the article that the doctor who said there was no gas attack wasn’t present at the time of the supposed attack and that those who were had left thr area in need order to report to the OPCW. He also talked to a number of civilians and nobody agreed that there had been a gas attack.

However as his fairly neutral reporting does not suit your preferred narrative you, as usual attack the messenger.

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