Some astute comments, pages 7 and 8 on the recent Russian statement regarding the Swiss OPCW lab findings.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...rings/#respond
^Which "comments" are you referring too?
Some interesting comments and some just sardonic like this..
Emboldened by their control of the Security Council. the May Junta, the American Mob and the French Poodle are now pressing for a further UN resolution pinning the blame on Assad and compelling him to cease using chemical weapons. When did you last beat your wife?
It is by now clear that this is not about the Skripals – forget the Skripals, forget Swiss laboratories, forget Dr Ste[hen Davies – they have served their purpose, and you will not hear of them again
This is also not about violation of the UN Charter – yada yada yada get over it already – let’s move on and, just in case anyone lags behind, every time a reference is made to the precepts of International Law, just sidetrack them with some waffle about how chemical weapons are against International law too, and the perps have to be brought to Justice etc etc etc. Some International Laws – those which aren’t documented and don’t require evidence – are more important than others (those such as the UN Charter, the CWC and the principles of Due Process and Customary International Law / Natural Justice)
This is not about Chemical weapons: we trust the OPCW, don’t we, but if the say that Russia has none, and that Syria is clean well, we can just ignore that and claim those nations cheated. 1sr@el? Oh, there you go on about 1sr@el – let’s talk about “Butcher Assad” instead. And the USA being behind with disposing of its own chemical weapons stocks? – they haven’t got any money, silly – they just spent the last $100 million on bombarding a couple of derelict building in Syria. Do please try to keep up!
This is not about poor innocent civilians – as Craig points out, we only care about them if to do so helps us advance some political agenda or other. Are you worried about deaths along the border in Gaza? – ok, well let’s manufacture some casualties in Douma to even the score up a little and distract your attention. And please, don’t start banging on and on and on and on about Yemen! That’s Iran’s fault, ok – they made us sell cluster munitions to the Saudi’s (and its not as if we don’t need the money – putting MBS up in 5 start hotels during his shopping trips to Paris and the USA doesn’t come cheap!)
And finally, I think we all know now, this is not about Syria: Syria is just one of many raghead nations who were dumb enough to locate their sh1thole country on top of our oil, and in the way of our geostrategic ambitions: we don’t need Syria to be ‘villain du jour’ – we’ve got Iran, North Korea, any number of other “animals” we can seek to intimidate, and to be quite frank, who cares if we cant find them on the map – Google Earth probably has the coordinates of every cellphone in the area anyway, so we’ll just use those
This, Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Children of All Ages, is about something far more important, far more obvious – we are just better than everyone else – more important, more bought & paid for friends, more guns, better films, bigger lies – resistance is futile. Why can’t the Russians and the Chinese just roll over an accept this – we are exceptional, they are not. End of.
yaaaaawn... fuck off Tomcat
You make Jeff seem relevant
Here are some really astute comments that prove that Russia is lying again and Craig Murray is a gullible, attention-seeking dickhead.
This is the bit where OhOh changes his mind and says that Lab is rubbish or they're lying.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-cast-12367077Spiez Laboratory, the Swiss Federal Institute for Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection, denied their report cast doubt on whether novichok was used.
In a statement, the Lab said: "Only OPCW can comment this assertion. But we can repeat what we stated 10 days ago: We have no doubt that Porton Down has identified Novichock.
[Porton Down] - like Spiez - is a designated lab of the OPCW.
"The standards in verification are so rigid that one can trust the findings."
https://twitter.com/SpiezLab/status/...-cast-12367077
see next post
Last edited by OhOh; 16-04-2018 at 01:57 PM.
Where, here on this thread or others, regarding this topic has the above, highlited in yellow so as not to continue with your confusion, occured?
I am presuming your use of "Lab is rubbish or they're lying" is referring to the Swiss lab.
I appears to be Spiez Laboratory, the Swiss Federal Institute for Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection, is protecting themselves, their worldwide reputation.
From you first link:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...-cast-12367077
"Here's what the Spiez lab said
Spiez Laboratory, the Swiss Federal Institute for Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection, denied their report cast doubt on whether novichok was used.
In a statement, the Lab said: "Only OPCW can comment this assertion. But we can repeat what we stated 10 days ago: We have no doubt that Porton Down has identified Novichock.
[Porton Down] - like Spiez - is a designated lab of the OPCW. "The standards in verification are so rigid that one can trust the findings."
1. The Swiss lab states, "Only OPCW can comment this assertion".
The OPCW speaks for itself, we cannot comment on what the OPCW publishes. Refer to the previous Syrian CW attack. OPCW accepted compramised "evidence and published a report blaming Syria from a tainted, non recognise COC, source.
Covering their own world reputation as a trusted organisation, not the OPCW's , possibly already compromised, reputation. Refer to the previous Syrian CW attack. OPCW accepted compramised "evidence" and published a report blaming Syria from a tainted, non recognise COC, source.
2. The Swiss lab states, "We have no doubt that Porton Down has identified Novichock. ".
When, 10, 15 years ago ? From which samples, the one UK authorities gave them, via OPCW, or the ones taken by OPCW from the alleged CW "patients" and 3 week old environmental sites?
Again, covering their own world reputation as a trusted organisation, not the OPCW's, possibly already compromised, position. Refer to the previous Syrian CW attack. OPCW accepted and compramised "evidence" published a report blaming Syria from a tainted, non recognise COC, source.
3. The Swiss lab states, "[Porton Down] - like Spiez - is a designated lab of the OPCW. The standards in verification are so rigid that one can trust the findings.".
It's "own standards" as an OPCW designated lab, whether PD adherers to them and is prepared to go to court to protect it's reputation, is for PD to announce.
From your second link, which probably is where Daily Mirror took it without understanding the English language subtleties available to some educated foreign English speakers:
https://twitter.com/SpiezLab/status/985243574123057152/photo/1?tfw_creator=MikeySmith&tfw_site=MirrorPolitics&r ef_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mirro r.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fno-swiss-lab-hasnt-cast-12367077
"Only OPCW can comment this assertion. But we can repeat what we stated 10 days ago: We have no doubt that Porton Down has identified Novichock. PD - like Spiez - is a designated lab of the OPCW. The standards in verification are so rigid that one can trust the findings"
Looks to be the same, so see above.
Here is a link to a PDF which descibes the OPCW analysis procedure, possibly page 15 may "clarify" your understanding:
https://www.unog.ch/80256EDD006B8954...nated_labs.pdf
Last edited by OhOh; 16-04-2018 at 02:01 PM.
A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.
Not sure what all that waffle is supposed to prove.
Other than that Russia is lying again.
Show me where I have constantly quoted RT or Sputnik snub... if I have quoted anything it's from links already quoted. I don't need my consent manufactured by either side, it's clear enough to anyone with a mind of their own that you're just Trump apologists at this stage.. you've sold out and switched off, sucking off the MSM nipple.
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
A Salisbury Councillor suggests CCTV recodings have been handed to the "inquiry", whatever that is.
Investigators are studying high-quality CCTV footage of Sergei Skripal, says council leader
"HIGH quality CCTV footage of Sergei Skripal and his daughter in the moments before they collapsed has been passed to investigators probing the attack of a Russian former double agent.
The images are understood to be clear enough to see people's faces or read a car number plate. There were fears the city's £400,000 CCTV system may not have been working after it was besieged by technical problems.
But Matthew Dean, leader of Salisbury City Council, said the issues had been resolved around a month ago. Crucially, the coverage includes The Maltings area, where Mr Skripal, 66, and Yulia, 33, were found collapsed on a bench eight days ago.
"The CCTV system was fully functional and a great deal of footage has been shared with the enquiry," he said. "I can confirm some very high quality footage was shared on the Monday with the enquiry."
But Mr Dean would not comment on whether the cameras were manned"
Too bad. Unfortunately, sometimes the cameras stop working in "crucial" situations (e.g. 9/11 Pentagon, etc)
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