Thread: Could we actually be descendants of an Alien Species ?

Originally Posted by astasinim

... We`ll probably end up making a complete balls of colonising a planet if ever we find one.

No reason to believe otherwise, though hopefully we'll be advanced by then to the point that we can live like good neighbours.

good points, then we are not ready for space travel yet

a couple of more world wars and we should

^^

Once the oil is gone, and religion is banned, we might start making some headway.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

From watching Discovery, there was an interesting reportage on human and how in less than 2000 years we have progressed more than we did in 100,000 years, and they were raising the question of alien genetics for the missing link.

there are a lot of things that doesn't add up with the modern man. His lack of integration with his natural environment or I should say his host natural environment, is questionable. His self-destruction mentality, and his culture of building and destruction, his ability to self-regulate but at the same time to abuse things, is just NOT natural, counter productive and inefficient.

There are strong evidence that we all come from outer space, from a distant planet. With thousands of "objects" hitting earth, why would it be impossible to think that we have been visited before ? or that we are actually the invaders, not natives of earth.

Apparently a number of artifacts have been recovered, and seem to point to that direction, evidence from the Maya and Egyptian time. And of course, we have Area 51 and all the conspiracy theories.

Why would it be impossible to think that this is all true ?

obviously, some of us are.

Logic - the universe is so vast and unexplored it is only simple basic logic that other more advanced forms of life are out there.

Solar systems are living organisms in themselves and we may be no more than an ant farm in the big scheme of things.

How many light years to the nearest solar system?

What is the lifespan of the longest living life form we know?

Maybe we can organize a star trek system where astronauts can self perpetuate...

And maybe I'll get a dream girl to blow me tonight.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

Originally Posted by jizzybloke

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

I have some very enlightening view points on this topic but won't reveal them to such abstractly challenged intellects..

sounds very much like something driventowin posted before he flounced!

whats a "flounce" BTW?

I call it 'going outside'. Derived from this quote by Captain Lawrence 'Titus' Oates of the ill-fated Scott's expedition to the South Pole.

"I am just going outside and may be some time"

They were starving to death. Oates made the decision to step outside the tent and end it in a snow bank. 'Going outside' is when a poster announces they are leaving the forum usually due to a disagreement. Or having been voted off.

Granted the universe is massive but then so are the odds of life occurring here on earth. First you have to have a star like our sun. Then a planet the proper distance from the sun. So multiply those odds then multiply by the tilt of the earth's axis, then multiply by having a moon circling the earth, then multipy by each unique addition required to make life on earth possible. The odds of all those factors coming together are huge.


The odds of some sort of life is much greater. There's a theory that as Jupiter cooled it's heat allowed for life on one of its moons at one time and it still may be there. There is ice covering the moon and it may have been water at one time. The idea is the moon's core may be large enough and molten and venting heat and nutrients so there may be water underneath the layers of ice with life forms living near the vents.



Here on Earth: Belching vents with life forms (which don't require photosynthesis) feeding off the nutrients.

Originally Posted by attaboy

...First you have to have a star like our sun. Then a planet the proper distance from the sun. So multiply those odds then multiply by the tilt of the earth's axis, then multiply by having a moon circling the earth, then multipy by each unique addition required to make life on earth possible. The odds of all those factors coming together are huge...

Why? Why does there have to be a sun X amount of distance to be conducive to life? Why does there have to be a moon?

One or the other may be a prerequisite for life on this planet but it doesn't mean it's a prerequisite for life period. There are in fact forms of life on earth that not only survive without sunlight but thrive so who is to say there is not life in the complete absence of a sun.

Originally Posted by attaboy

I could have said the 'type of life' we presently have here on Earth which is Life on Earth.

You could've, but you didn't.

I did read the whole post but, and sorry to tell you this, it doesn't make it any better. I can tell from your typical resort to silly and pointless name-calling that you know this too.

Originally Posted by astasinim

^^

Once the oil is gone, and religion is banned, we might start making some headway.

Oil is finite and will either dry up or not be needed, but religion can endure anything Man or Nature throws at it.

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by astasinim

... We`ll probably end up making a complete balls of colonising a planet if ever we find one.

No reason to believe otherwise, though hopefully we'll be advanced by then to the point that we can live like good neighbours.

maybe 'we' already have.....

Originally Posted by sunsetter

i had a conversation about this with a day release patient about 5 years ago, it all made perfect sense to me, and that was coming from a complete loon, not some merkin that claims to be getting rich soon

who might that be? George Lucas?? Gene Roddenbery?? Micheal Crichton? you mean those Americans??

Originally Posted by attaboy

then multipy by each unique addition required to make life on earth possible.

again..........life by our definition...

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by attaboy

...First you have to have a star like our sun. Then a planet the proper distance from the sun. So multiply those odds then multiply by the tilt of the earth's axis, then multiply by having a moon circling the earth, then multipy by each unique addition required to make life on earth possible. The odds of all those factors coming together are huge...

Why? Why does there have to be a sun X amount of distance to be conducive to life? Why does there have to be a moon?

One or the other may be a prerequisite for life on this planet but it doesn't mean it's a prerequisite for life period.

couldn't green you, read your response before I posted mine...

So Butter I noticed you haven't provided me with any links to source material for a publication with the topic substance I propose?? Guess it is isn't as commonly referred to as you suggested it was??

^ I don't have links, but I know you story is not original, it has been promoted before from a multitude of sources. Have you tried reading the book from that Scientology guy ? it's another one of them

a lot of materials I read mentioned those theories, so I hardly imagined them, just putting them together here

anyway, if you think your book story is different then why not, but I am pretty sure someone already already thought of the exact same thing before and might have put it in a book already

anyway, google "EBE" and "AREA 51" and you will see a tons of those stories, they are all quite nice and entertaining and can be great inspiration for mental reflection,

ESO - ESO 39/08 - A Pool of Galaxies - Associated Image

here is a map - large res is at the above link

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ I don't have links, but I know you story is not original

It most definately is....and if so? it should be quite easy to locate a link and provide it then??

Originally Posted by Butterfly

anyway, if you think your book story is different then why not, but I am pretty sure someone already already thought of the exact same thing before and might have put it in a book already

with that sort of thinking why does anyone ever write a book? all the topic material is already taken or why even attempt to try to change anything in our world someone else is already doing it or surely it must have been done before??

Originally Posted by Butterfly

anyway, google "EBE" and "AREA 51" and you will see a tons of those stories, they are all quite nice and entertaining and can be great inspiration for mental reflection,

I guess you missed this part????

Originally Posted by drivingforce

I did quite a bit of research on this theory,

I guess I should have said "extensive" research and it ain't there... there are numerous variations but none on this particular theory application or perspective..
and I'm most definately going forward..actually evaluating some publishers as I type this..and as already stated the plot as aw hole which is not presented here is the catch and how it flows it is most definately original...

Originally Posted by keda

DF, interesting angle but a few points: First, if it's money or a published book you want, the theory or anything close to original, or even the rehash of an existing theory is enough to do both, naturally if written to acceptable though far short of blockbuster standards. Next, if your outline is interesting enough but not your ability to produce the finished work to acceptable standards, any agent or publisher worthy of that title can have it redone by their own or hired hands.

hey Keda thanx for your pointers and your positive words of encouragement. the above is the issue though and why I need to cut some corners and straighten out the path to this end to get this published as quickly as possible..

My plot line contains all of the criteria to neatly connect all of these puzzle pieces sensibly and suspensefully.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

with that sort of thinking why does anyone ever write a book? all the topic material is already taken

good question actually, so at the end it boils down to talent or marketing for telling a story, that's all there is. The story line or plot become only secondary. What reveals an author is his writing style and how he uses words to tell a story. If you have money or you are a very famous author with a lack of inspiration, then marketing comes to help.

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

It most definately is...

well the exact plot might very specific and different from the rest, but the actual theme of the story has all a "deja-vu" about it, that's all what I am saying. It's like differentiating X-files episodes, you can't really tell the difference

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

with that sort of thinking why does anyone ever write a book? all the topic material is already taken

Originally Posted by Butterfly

good question actually, so at the end it boils down to talent or marketing for telling a story, that's all there is. The story line or plot become only secondary. What reveals an author is his writing style and how he uses words to tell a story. If you have money or you are a very famous author with a lack of inspiration, then marketing comes to help.

actually??? don't sound so surprised..... but yes it is an inspirational question that often holds people back from achieving because they feel they're not smart enough or worthy "that someone else has to have thought of it first" thus they never try..

I however.....know better...

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

It most definately is...

Originally Posted by Butterfly

well the exact plot might very specific and different from the rest, but the actual theme of the story has all a "deja-vu" about it, that's all what I am saying. It's like differentiating X-files episodes, you can't really tell the difference

but they all get viewed....though I assure you this is not the same theme or variation of anything previously conceived or at least printed publicly..that is one thing that makes it most magnetic, I have had ideas for many years but they never quite inspired me to write them (kind of like CMN'S sudden art fetish) as I don't particularly enjoy writing nor did the pieces fit properly or interest me much as a literary pursuit but suddenly I discovered the missing link and then when the pieces fit so perfectly it was easy to knock out 20 rough chapters in just a few days and that is my biggest assurance of it's mass appeal potential as the content has inspired a previously uninterested participant and strong critic..... ME!

Originally Posted by DrivingForce

I don't particularly enjoy writing

that could be an issue at the end if you want to have it published professionally, you might have to go to Ajarn and hire an English teacher there to proof read your work, or better, use a talented one as a ghost writer

most publishers won't past it the first chapter if the style make them fall asleep, you will also need to think about this on the top of the story