deaths by drink driving, autopsies etc......split.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 08:09 PM

They don't conduct autopsies on road accident victims.

You sure it wasn't just a Police report? Or did you request an autopsy?

bkkmadness · 21-09-2008, 08:35 PM

You just don't know when to stop do you Tud.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 08:47 PM

^ Facts seem to bother you Maddy.

bkkmadness · 21-09-2008, 08:49 PM

The fact that you're a wanker does.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by bkkmadness

The fact that you're a wanker does.

Very good.

**Slipstream** · 21-09-2008, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

If he was drunk he got only what he deserved.

Maybe Emp. But lots of farang drink and drive out in LOS.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Slipstream

But lots of farang drink and drive out in LOS.

They certainly do, because they believe the laws here don't apply to them and they do as they please because punishment here is lax and rarely enforced. They also should know a lot better than the undereducated and ignorant locals that endanger innocent life by consuming alcohol and getting behind the wheel of a vehicle.

Thailand has the death penalty now if you kill someone when drunk driving. It is rarely used though, unfortunately.

**dirtydog** · 21-09-2008, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

They don't conduct autopsies on road accident victims.

I think you will find they do if it is a farang.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I think you will find they do if it is a farang.

I am sure the relatives have to request an autopsy.

Autopsies are only conducted if a death is deemed suspicious by the Police and an investigation is under way.

**dirtydog** · 21-09-2008, 09:45 PM

It has nothing to do with the relatives, the police request autopsies on any suspicious and non suspicious farang deaths.

**Loy Toy** · 21-09-2008, 09:46 PM

Not quite sure whether Insurance Companies can request at least a blood alcohol test and in the event of a death and related insurances that they may have to pay out on.

**pai nai ma** · 21-09-2008, 09:50 PM

This is a good example, imo, of why these types of threads should go into members....

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

It has nothing to do with the relatives, the police request autopsies on any suspicious and non suspicious farang deaths.

Not so. A death has to be deemed suspicious by the Police to warrant an autopsy, even then, it is not guaranteed that the body will receive an autopsy.

The fact that the deceased is a foreigner has no bearing on whether an autopsy will be carried out.

In some cases, even involving deaths in suspicious circumstances, the victim's family must request an autopsy.

In addition, autopsies are usually conducted at the CIFS (Central Institute of Forensic Science) in Bangkok, so the body would have to be sent there.

Remember where you are people, this really is still the Third World.

**English Noodles** · 21-09-2008, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

They don't conduct autopsies on road accident victims.

I think you will find they do if it is a farang.

Realy - When did they start this? When our friend was killed (By a drunk driver) whilst driving on Kho Samui in April 2007 they did not perform an autopsy, the police doctor took a blood sample and that was tested for alcohol and drugs, no autopsy was performed.

I'm very curious as to when this practice was introduced, it seems strange that they would perform an autopsy on a farang but not a Thai, do they carry out autopsies on blacks and non Thai Asians, or is this practice restricted to farang?

**dirtydog** · 21-09-2008, 09:52 PM

^^You really believe the bullshite you are spouting don't you turd.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

You really believe the bullshite you are spouting don't you turd.

Yes, because I am 100% correct here.

Phuket has neither the forensic expertise nor the facilities to perform proper autopsies.

**dirtydog** · 21-09-2008, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Yes, because I am 100% correct here. Phuket has neither the forensic expertise nor the facilities to perform proper autopsies.

This is the only correct bit of your post turd, the rest is bullshite.

**DrAndy** · 21-09-2008, 10:08 PM

did you know that

At least a fifth of autopsies reveal a cause of death other than was was believed clinically. In "routine natural deaths" in England, 34% of the time the process that what was believed to be the cause of death prior to autopsy was completely wrong (J. Clin. Path. 61: 124, 2006). More than a quarter of autopsies reveal a major surprise other than the cause of death (Am. J. Clin. Path. 129: 102, 2008).

so autopsies are made even if the cause of death was thought to known

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

This is the only correct bit of your post turd, the rest is bullshite.

No, I've already explained that foreigners are treated no differently than Thais unless the victim's family requests otherwise.

Noodles helpfully explained that road accident fatality victims have their blood tested to determine blood alcohol and drug use levels.

**DrAndy** · 21-09-2008, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

In addition, autopsies are usually conducted at the CIFS (Central Institute of Forensic Science) in Bangkok, so the body would have to be sent there.

Remember where you are people, this really is still the Third World.

somehow you jumped from Bangkok to Phuket, Turd

why?

**English Noodles** · 21-09-2008, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

so autopsies are made even if the cause of death was thought to known

In the UK.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

so autopsies are made even if the cause of death was thought to known

Not in Thailand.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

In addition, autopsies are usually conducted at the CIFS (Central Institute of Forensic Science) in Bangkok, so the body would have to be sent there.

Remember where you are people, this really is still the Third World.

somehow you jumped from Bangkok to Phuket, Turd

why?

Because bodies have to be sent from Phuket to Bangkok for autopsies as I already clearly explained.

You really need to follow and comprehend threads and posts better.

**English Noodles** · 21-09-2008, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

somehow you jumped from Bangkok to Phuket, Turd why?

The accident happened in Phuket, Phuket has neither the forensic expertise nor the facilities to perform proper autopsies.

**DrAndy** · 21-09-2008, 10:13 PM

Under the criminal procedure law in Thailand the doctor holding the inquest is entitled to conduct a full autopsy. However, in this case it was not done. This is highly peculiar, given the circumstances of death and also that the CIFS ordinarily does full autopsies on bodies brought to its attention. Therefore, in addition to the matters before the court, there is a serious question about the failure to do these autopsies, and why the justice minister also did not give a clear instruction that they be subjected to complete examinations and full details recorded for further legal action.

the doctor should request it, not the relatives

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