Thread: deaths by drink driving, autopsies etc......split.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Do you think you can change the lese-majeste laws for us? They're highly inconvenient.

You do realise that what you have writen is breaking the law here in Thailand.

Which law would that be then?

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

I get my information from what actually happens.

In other words: anecdotal evidence. Thank you.

(tud, dude -- your mouths overriding you ass on this one. carryon)

^ I have provided an easier and wholly correct translation of Bob's quoted law.

It was as usual a poor translation from the Thai to English to begin with, which may be the reason Bob has misinterpreted it.

(tudster -- i got no dog in this fight but the remnants of my common sense suggest you soften your postion. carryon)

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

^ I have provided an easier and wholly correct translation of Bob's quoted law.

It was as usual a poor translation from the Thai to English to begin with, which may be the reason Bob has misinterpreted it.

Provide a translation from what?


As I said. An accurate translation of what? If it is an inaccurate translation how then can any of the mistranslated words be considered a key word? The key words are in Thai, as Thai laws are written in Thai and the titles of Statutes and the volumes containing them are in Thai. As you claim to know so much about Thai law, although in practice you appear to know very little, tell us what the title of the "Thailand Procedural Criminal Code" is in Thai. What are the titles of the other statute books, the Criminal/Penal Code, the Civil and Commercial Code, and the Civil Procedure Code in Thai? What, in Thai, is the difference between the Criminal/Penal code and the Procedural Criminal Code? Please translate into correct English for us. What is section 146 of the Procedural Criminal Code in Thai and what is your translation of it?

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Here's the final proof I was correct all along.

As for unnatural death, the law stipulates that it shall be reported to the
investigation officers for further legal proceeding. The physician or the medication treatment performer may issue death certifying document. The issue of death certificate does not mean an end of all legal proceeding regarding the death, but it is only an end as according to the Populace Registration Act B.E. 2534. Further proceeding will be required in the case of unnatural death.
Regarding autopsy, the Por Wor Ror law section 150 stipulates 2 characteristics
of the persons who are responsible for performing autopsy by classifying according to cases of death, as follows.
1. Cases of general unnatural death: there are two parties of persons with
responsibility of performing autopsy, namely, investigation officers and
physicians.
2. Cases of death resulting from action of state officials who cite having acted so
in course of performing duty, or cases of death during custody of state
officials, responsible persons for autopsy are of 4 groups namely,
investigation officers, physicians, public prosecutor’s officers, and
administrative officers of ranking of assistant district officer or higher. It is
seen that physicians are involved in every case.

Autopsy is a physician’s responsibility added into his/her profession of
medication. The reason that physicians need to perform autopsy is its being enacted. The steps of autopsy are in fact steps of investigation. Physicians are responsible as a assistant autopsy officer, since the system of autopsy in Thailand is a “police system”.

http://www.searo.who.int/LinkFiles/2...s-THAILAND.pdf

The PDF shows how the procedure works in a simple diagram, demonstrating autopsy is not required for all unnatural deaths.

This section of that document has nothing whatsoever to do with what you said. It's also the same document I posted earlier which, if you'd actually bothered to read it rather than being your usual mendacious self shows that you are wrong.

By the way;


An accurate translation of what? If it is an inaccurate translation how then can any of the mistranslated words be considered a key word? The key words are in Thai, as Thai laws are written in Thai and the titles of Statutes and the volumes containing them are in Thai. As you claim to know so much about Thai law, although in practice you appear to know very little, tell us what the title of the "Thailand Procedural Criminal Code" is in Thai. What are the titles of the other statute books, the Criminal/Penal Code, the Civil and Commercial Code, and the Civil Procedure Code in Thai? What, in Thai, is the difference between the Criminal/Penal code and the Procedural Criminal Code? Please translate into correct English for us. What is section 146 of the Procedural Criminal Code in Thai and what is your translation of it?

^^^The final proof that you don't know the difference between an investigation and the prosecution of a criminal case, you mean.

BTW Tud, you didn't answer this question;



An accurate translation of what? If it is an inaccurate translation how then can any of the mistranslated words be considered a key word? The key words are in Thai, as Thai laws are written in Thai and the titles of Statutes and the volumes containing them are in Thai. As you claim to know so much about Thai law, although in practice you appear to know very little, tell us what the title of the "Thailand Procedural Criminal Code" is in Thai. What are the titles of the other statute books, the Criminal/Penal Code, the Civil and Commercial Code, and the Civil Procedure Code in Thai? What, in Thai, is the difference between the Criminal/Penal code and the Procedural Criminal Code? Please translate into correct English for us. What is section 146 of the Procedural Criminal Code in Thai and what is your translation of it?

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Originally Posted by DrB0b

BTW Tud, you didn't answer this question;

I didn't bother as I deemed it irrelevant.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

It's also the same document I posted earlier which, if you'd actually bothered to read it

I wasn't aware you provided a link to the complete document.

The complete document demonstrates I am wholly correct.

Your continued perseverance in the face of factual evidence is admirable but misguided, as was your original erroneous interpretation of the law you quoted.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

^ I have provided an easier and wholly correct translation of Bob's quoted law.

It was as usual a poor translation from the Thai to English to begin with, which may be the reason Bob has misinterpreted it.

The quoted law is Section 146 of The Thai Procedural Criminal Code. Where is your translation? There is a difference between doing a thing a claiming to have done a thing. You're a liar, Tud, it's been shown before on this forum and it's been shown again on this thread.

BTW, I'm still waiting for your response to this.


An accurate translation of what? If it is an inaccurate translation how then can any of the mistranslated words be considered a key word? The key words are in Thai, as Thai laws are written in Thai and the titles of Statutes and the volumes containing them are in Thai. As you claim to know so much about Thai law, although in practice you appear to know very little, tell us what the title of the "Thailand Procedural Criminal Code" is in Thai. What are the titles of the other statute books, the Criminal/Penal Code, the Civil and Commercial Code, and the Civil Procedure Code in Thai? What, in Thai, is the difference between the Criminal/Penal code and the Procedural Criminal Code? Please translate into correct English for us. What is section 146 of the Procedural Criminal Code in Thai and what is your translation of it?

I have no dog in this fight either

if I did, it would be a Staffordshire Bull terrier, and it would be called Turdpuncher

Hmm...

I have no dog in this fight either

if I did, it would be a Staffordshire Bull terrier, and it would be called Turdpuncher

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Originally Posted by DrB0b

BTW Tud, you didn't answer this question;

I didn't bother as I deemed it irrelevant.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

It's also the same document I posted earlier which, if you'd actually bothered to read it

I wasn't aware you provided a link to the complete document.

The complete document demonstrates I am wholly correct.

Your continued perseverance in the face of factual evident is admirable but misguided, as was your original translation of the law you quoted.

Which law was that? Where is your accurate translation? Liar.

(late rounds tud -- watch his elbows -- you need a knock out, boy! now get in their kick his ass!)

go tud go tud go tud (*oh god were fuked*) go tud go tud

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Originally Posted by DrB0b

BTW Tud, you didn't answer this question;

I didn't bother as I deemed it irrelevant.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

It's also the same document I posted earlier which, if you'd actually bothered to read it

I wasn't aware you provided a link to the complete document.

The complete document demonstrates I am wholly correct.

Your continued perseverance in the face of factual evidence is admirable but misguided, as was your original erroneous translation of the law you quoted.

Irrelevant? The law in question is irrelevant to a discussion of that law? How does that work? You've also claimed to have provided an accurate translation of the relevant text. I'm only asking to see what it was you translated from and what it is you translated it to.

And;


An accurate translation of what? If it is an inaccurate translation how then can any of the mistranslated words be considered a key word? The key words are in Thai, as Thai laws are written in Thai and the titles of Statutes and the volumes containing them are in Thai. As you claim to know so much about Thai law, although in practice you appear to know very little, tell us what the title of the "Thailand Procedural Criminal Code" is in Thai. What are the titles of the other statute books, the Criminal/Penal Code, the Civil and Commercial Code, and the Civil Procedure Code in Thai? What, in Thai, is the difference between the Criminal/Penal code and the Procedural Criminal Code? Please translate into correct English for us. What is section 146 of the Procedural Criminal Code in Thai and what is your translation of it?

Blimey DrBOb, you may be right, he is wrong, but you know it is not worth the effort

his pig-headedness is just a natural asset

Given what you said to me the other day an interesting tact, Bob.

love these drbob matches. who else wears a yellow speedo to box?

go tud go tud!

This is hilarious. Bob has misinterpreted the law he quoted specifically to try and prove me wrong, and only succeeded in proving me correct.

Bummer!

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Blimey DrBOb, you may be right, he is wrong, but you know it is not worth the effort

his pig-headedness is just a natural asset

Of course, this is what he always does when he's wrong. I don't believe for one moment that he'll ever admit he's in error. On the other hand it's no skin off my nose to chase him around the forum for a few days constantly repeating the questions he's incapable of answering. I suggest that those annoyed by repetition put this thread on ignore right now

Hey, Tud!


An accurate translation of what? If it is an inaccurate translation how then can any of the mistranslated words be considered a key word? The key words are in Thai, as Thai laws are written in Thai and the titles of Statutes and the volumes containing them are in Thai. As you claim to know so much about Thai law, although in practice you appear to know very little, tell us what the title of the "Thailand Procedural Criminal Code" is in Thai. What are the titles of the other statute books, the Criminal/Penal Code, the Civil and Commercial Code, and the Civil Procedure Code in Thai? What, in Thai, is the difference between the Criminal/Penal code and the Procedural Criminal Code? Please translate into correct English for us. What is section 146 of the Procedural Criminal Code in Thai and what is your translation of it?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

The quoted law is Section 146 of The Thai Procedural Criminal Code.

Wrong again Bob. They are the section 21 of the Populace Registration Act B.E. 2535 which stipulates that Thai citizens shall report of death as according to the registration system of the country’s populace registration, and the sections 149 and 150 of the code of law regarding procedure of considering criminal cases which apply to autopsy in cases of unnatural death.

And that's darn tootin'.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

This is hilarious. Bob has misinterpreted the law he quoted specifically to try and prove me wrong, and only succeeded in proving me correct.

Bummer!

Ahem!

An accurate translation of what? If it is an inaccurate translation how then can any of the mistranslated words be considered a key word? The key words are in Thai, as Thai laws are written in Thai and the titles of Statutes and the volumes containing them are in Thai. As you claim to know so much about Thai law, although in practice you appear to know very little, tell us what the title of the "Thailand Procedural Criminal Code" is in Thai. What are the titles of the other statute books, the Criminal/Penal Code, the Civil and Commercial Code, and the Civil Procedure Code in Thai? What, in Thai, is the difference between the Criminal/Penal code and the Procedural Criminal Code? Please translate into correct English for us. What is section 146 of the Procedural Criminal Code in Thai and what is your translation of it?

bobbies a bitch in the clinch