deaths by drink driving, autopsies etc......split.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 08:09 PM

They don't conduct autopsies on road accident victims.

You sure it wasn't just a Police report? Or did you request an autopsy?

bkkmadness · 21-09-2008, 08:35 PM

You just don't know when to stop do you Tud.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 08:47 PM

^ Facts seem to bother you Maddy.

bkkmadness · 21-09-2008, 08:49 PM

The fact that you're a wanker does.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by bkkmadness

The fact that you're a wanker does.

Very good.

**Slipstream** · 21-09-2008, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

If he was drunk he got only what he deserved.

Maybe Emp. But lots of farang drink and drive out in LOS.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Slipstream

But lots of farang drink and drive out in LOS.

They certainly do, because they believe the laws here don't apply to them and they do as they please because punishment here is lax and rarely enforced. They also should know a lot better than the undereducated and ignorant locals that endanger innocent life by consuming alcohol and getting behind the wheel of a vehicle.

Thailand has the death penalty now if you kill someone when drunk driving. It is rarely used though, unfortunately.

**dirtydog** · 21-09-2008, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

They don't conduct autopsies on road accident victims.

I think you will find they do if it is a farang.

**English Noodles** · 21-09-2008, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

They don't conduct autopsies on road accident victims.

I think you will find they do if it is a farang.

Realy - When did they start this? When our friend was killed (By a drunk driver) whilst driving on Kho Samui in April 2007 they did not perform an autopsy, the police doctor took a blood sample and that was tested for alcohol and drugs, no autopsy was performed.

I'm very curious as to when this practice was introduced, it seems strange that they would perform an autopsy on a farang but not a Thai, do they carry out autopsies on blacks and non Thai Asians, or is this practice restricted to farang?

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I think you will find they do if it is a farang.

I am sure the relatives have to request an autopsy.

Autopsies are only conducted if a death is deemed suspicious by the Police and an investigation is under way.

**dirtydog** · 21-09-2008, 09:45 PM

It has nothing to do with the relatives, the police request autopsies on any suspicious and non suspicious farang deaths.

**Loy Toy** · 21-09-2008, 09:46 PM

Not quite sure whether Insurance Companies can request at least a blood alcohol test and in the event of a death and related insurances that they may have to pay out on.

**pai nai ma** · 21-09-2008, 09:50 PM

This is a good example, imo, of why these types of threads should go into members....

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

It has nothing to do with the relatives, the police request autopsies on any suspicious and non suspicious farang deaths.

Not so. A death has to be deemed suspicious by the Police to warrant an autopsy, even then, it is not guaranteed that the body will receive an autopsy.

The fact that the deceased is a foreigner has no bearing on whether an autopsy will be carried out.

In some cases, even involving deaths in suspicious circumstances, the victim's family must request an autopsy.

In addition, autopsies are usually conducted at the CIFS (Central Institute of Forensic Science) in Bangkok, so the body would have to be sent there.

Remember where you are people, this really is still the Third World.

**DrAndy** · 21-09-2008, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

In addition, autopsies are usually conducted at the CIFS (Central Institute of Forensic Science) in Bangkok, so the body would have to be sent there.

Remember where you are people, this really is still the Third World.

somehow you jumped from Bangkok to Phuket, Turd

why?

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

In addition, autopsies are usually conducted at the CIFS (Central Institute of Forensic Science) in Bangkok, so the body would have to be sent there.

Remember where you are people, this really is still the Third World.

somehow you jumped from Bangkok to Phuket, Turd

why?

Because bodies have to be sent from Phuket to Bangkok for autopsies as I already clearly explained.

You really need to follow and comprehend threads and posts better.

**DrAndy** · 21-09-2008, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

You really need to follow and comprehend threads and posts better.

yes I do, obviously

you really need to stop being a patronising arse and grow up

**DrB0b** · 22-09-2008, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Originally Posted by dirtydog

It has nothing to do with the relatives, the police request autopsies on any suspicious and non suspicious farang deaths.

Not so. A death has to be deemed suspicious by the Police to warrant an autopsy, even then, it is not guaranteed that the body will receive an autopsy.

The fact that the deceased is a foreigner has no bearing on whether an autopsy will be carried out.

In some cases, even involving deaths in suspicious circumstances, the victim's family must request an autopsy.

In addition, autopsies are usually conducted at the CIFS (Central Institute of Forensic Science) in Bangkok, so the body would have to be sent there.

Remember where you are people, this really is still the Third World.

Mortality System in Thailand
1. Overview of mortality reporting system
In Thailand there are two issues of law regarding mortality; they are the section
21 of the Populace Registration Act B.E. 2535 which stipulates that Thai citizens shall report of death as according to the registration system of the country’s populace registration, and the sections 149 and 150 of the code of law regarding procedure of considering criminal cases which apply to autopsy in cases of unnatural death.
Reporting of death as according to the Populace Registration Act B.E. 2535 is a
regulation regarding keeping populace registries; and it stipulates that
In cases of death, regardless of death in house or death in medical establishment,
regardless of natural or unnatural death, there shall be reporting of the death.

Persons responsible for death reporting are,
1. Case of death in house: the master of the house shall report of the death; in case of absence of house master, persons who encounter the death shall report of it.
2. Case of death outside house: persons who have accompanied the deceased person, or person encountering the death, shall report of the death.
3. Case of death in medical establishments: the healthcare officials of the medical
establishments, such as care-giving physicians, shall issue death certifying
document (Tor Ror 4/1) to the relatives of the deceased for further reporting of the death to the registrar.

Time periods of reporting:
1. Under normal condition, reporting shall be done with 24 hours starting
from the time of death or of encountering death.
2. In the case where communication is not available, the time period of
reporting may be extended, but it must not exceed 7 days starting from the
time of death or of encountering death.
Any one who does not report of death within the prescribed time periods shall be
liable to a fine of not more than 1,000 baht.

Death may also be classified into two categories, namely,
1) Natural death
2) Unnatural death. In the cases of natural death there is no problem, reporting of death can proceed according to the normal procedure of reporting death and the dead body can be handled as according to tradition. However, if there is reason to doubt that the death is natural, or death occurring during custody of the state officials, the law stipulates that there shall be autopsy as according to the code of law regarding procedure of considering criminal cases, section
149. There are 5 causes of unnatural death, namely,
1. Suicide
2. Homicide
3. Death from beastly attack
4. Death from accident
5. Death of unknown cause

**DrivingForce** · 22-09-2008, 01:32 AM

too bad there's no topic associated with this thread so you have any idea what it is in relation to? as in what is the original topic?

bkkmadness · 22-09-2008, 01:37 AM

Split from a news thread.

https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...-speeding.html (Phuket Rawai Deadly corner claims speeding Brit)

**dirtydog** · 21-09-2008, 09:52 PM

^^You really believe the bullshite you are spouting don't you turd.

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

You really believe the bullshite you are spouting don't you turd.

Yes, because I am 100% correct here.

Phuket has neither the forensic expertise nor the facilities to perform proper autopsies.

**dirtydog** · 21-09-2008, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Yes, because I am 100% correct here. Phuket has neither the forensic expertise nor the facilities to perform proper autopsies.

This is the only correct bit of your post turd, the rest is bullshite.

**DrAndy** · 21-09-2008, 10:08 PM

did you know that

At least a fifth of autopsies reveal a cause of death other than was was believed clinically. In "routine natural deaths" in England, 34% of the time the process that what was believed to be the cause of death prior to autopsy was completely wrong (J. Clin. Path. 61: 124, 2006). More than a quarter of autopsies reveal a major surprise other than the cause of death (Am. J. Clin. Path. 129: 102, 2008).

so autopsies are made even if the cause of death was thought to known

**EmperorTud** · 21-09-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

This is the only correct bit of your post turd, the rest is bullshite.

No, I've already explained that foreigners are treated no differently than Thais unless the victim's family requests otherwise.

Noodles helpfully explained that road accident fatality victims have their blood tested to determine blood alcohol and drug use levels.

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