Thread: Is it a myth that Thais don't like confrontation?

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

the chances are high in a Thai using a gun in a confrontation.

Because they have access to them.

Bill Hicks.

"There's no correlation between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and not having a gun and not shooting someone with it. There have been studies made, and you'd be a fool and a communist to make one"

On 20 occassions in my life - if I'd had a gun I would have shot the cvnt. Fact I didn't have one changed that.

Originally Posted by Nathan Napalm

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

the chances are high in a Thai using a gun in a confrontation.

Because they have access to them.

Bill Hicks.

"There's no correlation between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and not having a gun and not shooting someone with it. There have been studies made, and you'd be a fool and a communist to make one"

On 20 occassions in my life - if I'd had a gun I would have shot the cvnt. Fact I didn't have one changed that.

Yes....
Communist.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

If Thais are non confrontational why is the place awash with illegal guns? If I wanted a gun I'd bet money that I could get one within the hour. In fact when I first got burgled my missus was a nervous wreck. A local copper loaned me a 9 mm pistol (illegal gun), to put my missus at ease, for a few weeks until we had security bars fitted.

You're using minority examples to argue against the majority. On the whole Thais aren't very confrontational IMO. That doesn't mean to say they aren't pissed inside, they just have a cultural propensity to keep it in.

Now that doesn't for one second mean that a pissed up country bumpkin won't slit another's throat for spilling his beer, but that can hardly be used to make accurate generalisations. As accurate as generalisations can be anyhow.

Is it a myth that Thais don't like confrontation?

Pragmatic, do you believe all stereotypes to be true? I don't. That "Thais don't like confrontation" is just a stereotype.

^ You don't think there's ever any truth in stereotypes? How do you think they came to be exactly?

Do you at least believe it's plausible that different nations of people have different characteristics, and these differences can be identified and genarlised?

Not a myth

Originally Posted by Neverna

Is it a myth that Thais don't like confrontation?
Pragmatic, do you believe all stereotypes to be true? I don't. That "Thais don't like confrontation" is just a stereotype.

Neverna, some stereotypes I believe to be true.
'Bedouins have a high regard for their camels.'

Now I'm not going out on a limb by saying:
1) all politicians are crooks
2) all lawyers are liars
3) all bankers are thieves

...but some others might

They do tend to suppress anger and frustration on a daily basis, mainly to do with other people's selfish habits; crap drivers, noisy neighbours, abusive relationships, poor working environments, debts, etc.

When the straw eventually breaks the camel's back, it's usually time for a quick exit.

Wrong approach here.

It is not whether or not the Thai truly shirk confrontation but whether or not they can resolve it once conflict arises.

The answer of course is, no.

That is why the place is such a fuck up. Learning how to admit personal fault, accepting it and offering settlement would be a start.

A Thai actually saying sorry for a personal fault is as rare as hen's teeth. Sure, if they have no rooms left, the phad thai is off the menu, the buses have stopped running they'll trot out the "so solly " routine but if the waitress delivers a ham omelette instead of the cheese one you ordered all you will get is an imbecilic smile and some awkwardness.

Really, they are the most neurotic and insecure people to walk the planet. If they spent half the time they did on working out who is higher or lower in their moronic little social scale on actually considering why they were so fucking stupid the place would be a lot better.

Originally Posted by Nathan Napalm

People are different.
The well educated and provided for one's are exceptionally un-confrontational (compared to your average Glaswegian )

I see wealthy/connected Thais being more confrontational and willing to throw their weight around. Asians in general for that matter.

How about the Korean elat that ordered a plane to land because she was served macadamia nuts on a napkin instead of a plate?

Really, they are the most neurotic and insecure people to walk the planet.

quite so.

the emotional immaturity and preciousness of the thai can be quite startling to normal folk unaccustomed to the outbursts of pompous self righteousness of these unbalanced people when challenged.

Has anyone here besides me recognized that there is a "caste," system in Thailand?

Originally Posted by Nathan Napalm

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I agree but feel that the Thais are somewhat cowards being as we in the west prefer one on one face off's. Whereas Thais rarely confront on their own.

Culturally as we were taught - yes - the group attack is cowardly. It's not like that here - end of. Thais confront each other one on one (in my experience) but due to the size of foreigners - they attack in groups.

When its one to here in Thailand the loser (in my experience) often brings 3 of his mates to make sure he wins the return match .

No sir.. it ain't no myth...Thais the normal one's.. avoid confrontation.

Two recent examples:
i had a new samsung TV konk. Sent my staff in to sort it out. Came back with warranted only for 6 months..That sounded wrong to me. later when I got the chance I verified that a one year warranty was still in effect.
I then proceed to the Samsung service center in Phuket, and DEMAND service on said TV. At first I get the runaround. I then inform them that I will not leave their office until they honor the warranty. I then tell the manager that I'll call the police and file fraud charges against them.
They finally accepted the return of the TV. I guess it's fixed now, I gotta go pick it up.

example two next...

the second time was almost beyond belief.

On the train from Chiang Mai to Bkk... No liquor or beer is allowed on the train nowadays.

I bring a bottle of Johnny red to allay the withdrawals. I keep it under cover and not obvious.

I meet up with a fellow Scot a share a tipple or two as Scots are to do.

Some busybody train-lady spots the bottle.

Now we're not drinking heavy and I am away from my compartment for some time.
The staff had made my bed while I was gone,
I retire and go to sleep. Later I wake up ready for a drink and find my nearly full bottle of Johnny red is gone.

When I realize what's happened i go fucking ballistic.

I start yelling "khamoi"(thief)to full lung extension.
I get the whole train security engaged, guns drawn, handcuffs out.

I resist the handcuffing attempt by screaming loudly "you don't touch me"

So latter as we're arriving in Bankgok half expecting to be incarcerated. The officials return my 3/5th full bottle of scotch with much quiescence.

^ Arent you embarrassed by your actions ?
Making a big fuss on a train because someone took away your whisky, whisky that you should nt have had .
You behaved quite immaturely .

Originally Posted by Fluke

^ Arent you embarrassed by your actions ?
.

Not really since the almost full bottle was returned upon arrival. (I was expecting to be arrested and put through the wringer)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Originally Posted by Nathan Napalm

People are different.
The well educated and provided for one's are exceptionally un-confrontational (compared to your average Glaswegian )

. Asians in general for that matter.

Yep...so true

Originally Posted by Nathan Napalm

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

the chances are high in a Thai using a gun in a confrontation.

Because they have access to them.

Bill Hicks.

"There's no correlation between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and not having a gun and not shooting someone with it. There have been studies made, and you'd be a fool and a communist to make one"

On 20 occassions in my life - if I'd had a gun I would have shot the cvnt. Fact I didn't have one changed that.

The problem with many Thai's is they are totally unable to control their emotions nor do they realise the consequential results of them ,oweing in my view to the "face" problems especially among young males , gun crime here is rampant , guns can be bought here as easy as falling off a log just the same as in the UK if you know where to go ,however the gun crime here differs wildly ,one could easily get shot here for giving a Thai the stiff middle finger whilst driving , the statistics here may be an eye opener for some ,however sorrily not for any one who has lived here for a few years who does not walk round with rose coloured glasses on Homicide and Gun-Firearm Violence in Thailand: World Ranking Crime statistics and Safety

Here in Thailand one can get filled full of holes for the so called"crime" of wearing a different School Blazer No ducking the issue of rising gun crime - The Nation

What the thaiz didn't tell you was the staff pissed in the bottle before returning it. That's why they were smiling when they handed it back!

mr. earl would have been smiling too had they done that. if you have been following mr.earls enlightening lifestyle thread of a few weeks ago, you would know that is his favourite healthful tipple.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

has to do with the topic of this thread is beyond me..

I suppose there could be different meanings to the word "confrontation".

Could you perhaps illuminate me to the other ones, motherfucker!

I can't bear alcoholics. They're just so tedious.

Mr Earl , I'm truly dismayed regarding your "drinking illegally on train" incident. Speaking as an independent voice - you behaved simply as an ass which exemplified the worst bias one could have of 'stupid farangs'.

The Thais have outlawed liquor on their rail.
In any other country the authorities would have tazored or beat you to stop your incessant yelling (ranting) and/or resisting handcuffs , securely cuffing your arms behind your back (while possibly popping your shoulder socket) and placed you under arrest and your ass behind bars at the next stop without returning your tipple or rail ticket to you (period).

What the f**k were you thinking ?

Your narrative can only speak to the worst of how a foreigner should behave in another country.
The perception you left with the Thais on board makes it worse for those that will follow in your footsteps. You've cast a black eye on us all.

I can only hope that your story was pure b-s as I have held you in a better regard.