Thread: 1st time over a decade I have gone 24 hours without a cigarette

Originally Posted by natalie8

Originally Posted by ENT

Nineteen weeks without tobacco.

Weight gain has stopped, breathing is good, blood pressure good commensurate to a 45 yr old.

Sense of smell,....bloody amazing!!

Zero craving and not taking any more lobelia.

The trick with any drug, alcohol, lifestyle or practice cessation is to do it gradually for optimum effects, IMO.
So the slow increase then slow decrease in lobelia dosages was successful.

How's the rest of you doing?

Congrats! For me, I never noticed a difference in my sense of smell or taste, as they were always good.

Now I wish I could stop biting my nails. I did completely stop for a few years, but now I've started again.

You probably have an anxiety problem.

^ Lobelia deals to that nicely.

I am prone to anxiety and the problem with nail biting is that your nails are always there. I'm not sure if we can get lobelia here, but I'll take a look tomorrow while I'm out shopping with my friend.

Change your diet. Probably got too much sugar or caffeine in it. Drugs aren't the answer.

Lobelia's no more a drug than coffee or willow bark.

But, if you want to believe what Andy and some other idiots have to say about it, feel free.

Others think differently.

Also lobelia is non addictive, unlike anything else from sugar to coffee, alcohol, etc.

Originally Posted by waradmiral

Change your diet. Probably got too much sugar or caffeine in it. Drugs aren't the answer.

I rarely eat sugar, maybe a couple of times oer month and I only have two cups of coffee in the morning. Lobelia is not a drug, it's a plant / flower.

Ha, ha.! I like that!
Your old dad sounds cool, carrying the carton of fags around in the new car like that!
Great idea, a perpetual reminder and motivator to stay away from smoking, excellent trick.

Originally Posted by ENT

just use a small amount a square centimetre of leaf any time you feel the urge to bite your nails.

yes, Nat, sellotape a leaf to each nail and you will never bite them again

Ah the hair-splitter arrives.

In this context the word "drug" is used in its naive sense implying a powerful substance, an alkaloid capable of undesirable consequences if indulged in, as in a drug of habit.

You mean sort of like an obsession with 9/11 ??

More like your obsession with me, possum,.........

No obsession. You just make yourself such a target, what with all your looney theories and going off on tangents.

Nevertheless, I do approve of anyone giving up smoking....it is an vile, noxious substance which many people still casually puff out into my breathing space.

Then why don't you valve it shut?

Go and take some lobelia along with your medication.

Originally Posted by ENT

Lobelia's no more a drug than coffee or willow bark.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

of course it is a drug

Originally Posted by ENT

Ah the hair-splitter arrives.

hardly splitting hairs when you post such nonsense; I was just correcting your misinformation

the reason Lobelia works for some conditions is because of the drugs contained in it; they are also the reason that you can get severe side effects from taking too much of the plant

Take a pill Mandy. Your usual negativity is noted, as is that of your acolyte Latindancer.

I've posted many website links for those interested in reading more about lobelia and its use including safeguards .

There are no recorded deaths from its use, and you're a well known lying detractor of anything positive.

How's everyone going ?
I just found out that a good friend had a stroke recently....he had been a smoker and gave up only 8 weeks ago. Strokes often happen to smokers. I'm in shock because no-one knows how well he will recover. Half his face is hanging down and he can't use one side of his body. He's only in his early fifties....

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Dillinger

I'm gonna give up soon, ive been reading this book

http://kat.ph/alan-carrs-easy-way-to...-t4151582.html

It tells you not to stop puffing until you finish the book. I'm reading a sentence a day

Originally Posted by pseudolus

A very good motivational film Dil

All us ex smokers can hear your rasping breath and lungs creaking; see the yellow stained fingers, hear the phlegm rattling around and thank god that we have quit that rubbish and do not need to smoke to feel relaxed.

Well done.

I can see Pseudo is turning into the worst kind of afflicted smoker, the reformed bore. Note how he refers to himself as Ex-Smoker not Non smoker.
Have you ever asked someone for a light and they turn around and say "I don't smoke anymore"

Hey..... Tell someone who gives a fuck......... FATSO

No I'm not - I am pointing out that the rasping in breath as you struggle to lift your arm due to the weight of the lighter is a polite reminder of how bad it is to smoke.

You put that video up thinking it would make the recent Non Smokers (if you prefer) jealous and want to smoke; after all, you recorded it yourself, uploaded it to youtube and then posted it on here for comedic affect. However, the death rattle in your lungs and the wheezing just from drawing in your first plume of smoke made me think "thank fuck I have given that up".

If you are too week and too scared to stop smoking, then fine; it's your funeral. But this thread is about people who want to / have quit smoking. Your video just helps us all see how shit it is to smoke when you actually wheeze and are short of breath from the effort of reaching for a smoke.

Glad I am not dying for a smoke any more though.

I started reading this thread about two weeks ago. Got alot out of the first 6/7 pages, so much so I crushed the packet lying proximate to the pc and binned them.

Later that evening I did go digging around in the bin looking for the remnants, knowing i could piece enough together in the pack for the fix but found the missus had poured the dinner scraps in on them. Unwittingly on her part but the pack was totally spoilt. You need a bit of luck giving up i think. Got mine then and really been fine, largely since. Touch wood.

I have had some moments but prefer the tough love and the cold turkey approach. Not for everyone but sits better with me. In any event, you certainly do need a framework, plan and for me it is just to put it out of your head. Mensa stuff I know but keeping it simple is part of the solution in my view.

The thought, the urge comes, and they are going to keep coming so i acknowledge them, identify if its the biochemical side, a situation/emotional side and then deliberately change what i am thinking about in sheer defiance. Give it no presence. I want the fight and to win. Just not into the drugs, patches, hypnosis.... The parametres are clear then and know if i don't stay vigilant, I have no one/nothing else to blame. That's me and probably why pseudolus' comments early here resonated. They were simple.

This thread was a spark though and so i wish to thank all those who positively contributed. I will say i couldn't read too much after the endless lobelia stuff propagated by Ent. Kinda derailed some of the better anecdotes some posters contributed for me but each to their own.

I would agree that the youtube from Dillinger is one of the more pathetic and worse unfunny contributions to a topic i have read here but then that's TD.

Would also comment that Andy is right that the thought, desire never really goes away and I know that the danger time seems to be around three months from past experience. Yep been here before. The mind does some very wicked things and conjures some extraordinary scenarios to get you to stick another one in your gob. Kinda why i want the fight and want that pang to come so i can deal with it. Denounce it.

Would also say that this post is against quitting pathos for me as i prefer to deal with the demons internally and dislike commentating on my progress outwardly to others. I have posted here simply because the thrust of the thread is so fundamentally worthwhile and would like to commend others to also try. Most smokers have made the odd attempt before and i used to be disparaging of the "try and try and it will one day work" idea but I do believe this to be so now. Takes a few cracks.

I am not counting my chickens here as it is still early days but really do want to lose the smoker tag, smoker feeling & dependency and the myriad of ramifying affects the habit has.

And not to mention it is just time. At 44 and having smoked for probably 28 years it is longer than i like to confess.

So, to the op and contributors here, some really positive things can happen when you chuck stuff out there!! Cheers.

Still haven't had a cigarette in 2013.

Get the odd craving, probably around 2-3 times a week, but nothing too serious.
Having said that I know it just takes one slip to be back on that slippery slope to 20 (or more) a day, so need to stay on guard still.

A nice way of taking lobelia (ban bian lian)is to get 100 gm (Bt 50) of the dried herb from a Chinese herbalist and a quart of organic apple cider vinegar.

Powder the lobelia in a blender, then empty it all into a quart jar, cover with the apple cider vinegar, close lid tight and store in a dark place at room temperature. Shake the jar vigorously every day for two weeks.

Finally, pour the dark liquid through a sieve into a dark coloured bottle, squeezing the last drops out of the powder through a cloth.

Use that extract, a small eye dropper full (3<5 drops) at a time, for whatever your problem is, asthma, tobacco or alcohol or drug addiction, any craving at all.

It's really pleasant as an evening drink combined with mint and lime and a touch of honey, at around 0.25gm dried powder per cup of hot water..a strongish dose.


Or added to coffee, for the extra buzz....

I've been using lobelia off and on for 5 yrs with no ill effect.
Combined with sage it's a brilliant expectorant, clears out lung pollution

Hits the dopamine receptors.

Potentiates the effects of other drugs, leading to lower doses needed for those effects.
Conversely other drugs such as other piperidines like chilis potentiate lobeline.

This website explains a lot;
https://restorativemedicine.org/jour...atory-illness/