Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

“The judge said he would coordinate with the police officer in charge, and that if those negotiations were successful, there might be an opportunity to re-test the DNA samples,”

Aww, cute.

A judge in a double rape and murder trial saying he will negotiate with the police over DNA samples. That's very nice of him to put himself out like that.

Not that it will matter now anyway, with all the DNA either 'used-up' or 'lost'.

It's not all used up or lost Luigi. It seems they have lots of potential DNA evidence

"But he told the court that some items were already taken during the forensic checking process. They included two Marlboro and an LM cigarette butts, a condom and some 300 cotton buds with DNA samples of.
of the two defendants. A shovel, sandals and flecks of sand soaked with blood remained at Phangan police station, he added. Pol Lt Col Somsak said outside the court that "the DNA on the cigarettes is all finished."

Heaps of DNA but most of it , it seems, they haven't bothered to analyse.





Court to decide Koh Tao evidence retest | Bangkok Post: news

Originally Posted by citizen33

No new thread on this topic yet on TVF. What a load of toadies the mods on that site are!

No, its the risk of LM by accusing the Royal Thai Police of wrongdoing

Check out this interview video outside Samui court house!!!
https://www.facebook.com/heidi.a.zim...0772946621286/

Originally Posted by bababags

Originally Posted by citizen33

No new thread on this topic yet on TVF. What a load of toadies the mods on that site are!

No, its the risk of LM by accusing the Royal Thai Police of wrongdoing

Perhaps I was a bit harsh because I see they do have a thread hidden away.

^ thank you for not posting a link.

The only DNA that really matters is from sperm inside her body. Any other (such as microscopic skin pieces found on the handle of the hoe) could have been placed there by either the police, or Mon, who had been photographed entering the crime scene.

Cigarette butts with the Burmese accuseds' DNA mean precisely NOTHING. They had been drinking and smoking on the beach earlier that evening.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Check out this interview video outside Samui court house!!!
https://www.facebook.com/heidi.a.zim...0772946621286/

Thainess in the spotlight.

Not a pretty sight, is it.

If the British embassy had an ounce of decency left they would condemn this miscarriage of justice and arrange for the immediate return of the victims' families to the UK. It is patently obvious that the DNA evidence exculpated the Burmese but by destroying it they hoped in their infantile way it wouldn't matter since a fair trial is not usually necessary to obtain a criminal conviction in this country.

Pitiful really, but these thugs are not noted for their finesse.

Court may order retesting of DNA in Koh Tao double murder case



A court looks set to commission the Central Institute of Forensic Science (CIFS) to retest the DNA of two Myanmar nationals who are facing charges of killing two British backpackers in Thailand last year, an informed source disclosed yesterday.

The order is expected to be issued today, according to the source.

The move, if made, promises to clear doubts as to whether migrant workers Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Tun, both 22, were made scapegoats. Both suspects have pleaded not guilty in court, saying that they initially confessed under pressure from police.

So far, police and public prosecutors have cited DNA results as incriminating evidence against them, prompting their defence team to request fresh DNA tests.

CIFS chief Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan said a retesting of DNA was not common in foreign countries. So far, she said the retesting was quite rare in Thailand and hence she was not sure about the evidence storage process.

"We will have to see the conditions of the evidence first," she said.

The two Myanmar nationals are standing trial for the murder of 24 yearold David Miller and the rape and murder of Hannah Witheridge, 23, on Koh Tao in September.

Much of the defence's case revolves around a bid to retest key forensic evidence, including the DNA on cigarettes and a condom found near the crime scene as well as DNA swabs taken from the victims' bodies.

"The DNA samples taken from the bodies are not my responsibility. They are in Bangkok," Police LtColonel Somsak Nurod added.

The opening day of the trial on Wednesday saw the defence attack the police for failing to cordon off the crime scene quickly enough. Police deny mis

See more at: Court may order retesting of DNA in Koh Tao double murder case - The Nation

Porntip says retesting DNA not common.

Retested crime lab evidence can be used at trials, judge rules - TwinCities.com

Quotes from Andy Hall.

Yesterday had heated debates outside courtroom with senior police officers working on Koh Tao murder case who criticised the defense team.

A senior officer said to me the strong defense of the suspects was disrespectful to the parents, families and memory of the deceased.

Explained many times our defense team is seeking truth and justice. And we do so for the deceased, families of deceased and the accused too

If the prosecution case against Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo is strong, it will withstand the defense's strong cross examination and our witnesses

Originally Posted by Latindancer

The victims' DNA is in their repatriated bodies No problem.

Ok....but compared to what ? The Burmese guys' DNA has to be found on (or in) the victims' bodies for them to be guilty.

Any sperm still in her vagina would be degraded by the time it got to the UK, wouldn't it ?

Probably not, in the BTK serial killer case, investigators took DNA from a 20 plus year old sample and matched it to a pap smear done on the suspect's daughter. Kansas is not exactly the high tech capital of the USA either.

On the other hand, dna may have been planted on the bodies or the real killers dna washed away before the bodies were repatriated.

New Developments in Koh Tao Trial.

Christopher Harkins
honolulu, U.S. Minor Outlying Islands
10 Jul 2015 — Today marks day 3 of the trial. While the trial has only just begun, there have already been huge developments that point to what many of us already believe. That Win and Zaw had nothing to do with these horrific crimes and are being used as scapegoats to protect corrupt authorities and connected families in Koh Tao. The most troubling, and also probably most easily predicted, is that the Thai police claim that they have no more DNA for the defense team to test and authenticate. Since this is pretty much the ONLY evidence that they claim to have, and now admit they don’t even have, the case should be thrown out immediately and the hunt for the real killers should take place.

Also very interesting is the statement made by human rights defender Andy Hall that the defense team has received evidence from the UK investigators sent to Thailand and that this evidence contradicts what was brought forward by the prosecution. While after reading the MET report we were initially upset and believed that nothing had been done, it may seem now that there was actually some good that may have come from the investigators visit to Koh Tao. At this stage we are not sure what evidence was handed over to the defense team, but the announcement that some evidence was handed over at all leaves many of us optimistic.

With the original Thai translator quitting after being threatened by the island mafia, it has been reported that Jack Hansen-Bartel has bravely stepped up and is taking on the job of translator for the trial. He has firsthand experience of the corruption plaguing the Thai justice system and is himself a victim of it. If you would like to thank Jack for his help and read more about his own ordeal Please click like on his Facebook page linked below.

Also, below is a link to an excellent article written by Andrew Drummond on the current state of the trial.

Finally, we should all send our gratitude and thanks to Reprieve.org for their tireless work on this case.

Remember, it is only because of the public outrage and international spotlight on this case that we even have a chance of receiving justice. I believe it is our collective responsibility to continue sharing updates and demanding answers from both the UK and Thai authorities. Please continue to spread awareness of this case through social media and any other means at your disposal.
Thank you all for your continued support.

INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE IN THAILAND - AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT - Andrew Drummond

https://www.facebook.com/andy.hall.3110?fref=nf

https://twitter.com/atomicalandy

Reprieve

https://www.facebook.com/JackHBSamui

note to the defense team. have all the prosecution team, and witnesses assets checked, bank statements, etc. you may well find some one has got quite rich recently.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

With the original Thai translator quitting after being threatened by the island mafia

It says a lot if the Court tolerates this.

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Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Royal Thai Police Chief issues statement DNA evidence Koh Tao case not missing and foreign media has misunderstood

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It's behind you!!

Originally Posted by Luigi

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Check out this interview video outside Samui court house!!!
https://www.facebook.com/heidi.a.zim...0772946621286/

Thainess in the spotlight.

Not a pretty sight, is it.

Scary, actually.

awww us silly farang mai kow jai.... please enlighten us ohhh mighty, clever ones...

poot cha cha na (speak nice and slow) then we might grasp your highly intellectual wizardry.... so you are saying you didn't misplace the evidence... ahhh I see...

Then where the fuck pray tell is it then?

Its almost 'dog ate my homework' stuff really

Yeah, a free roaming 'unleashed' pitbull ate it - then was subsequently stabbed by an evil farang.. case closed.

^555

Jonah Fisher ‏@JonahFisherBBC
Koh Tao trial. Items that can be retested: hoe, shoe, bag. Items that can't: ("finished") -all DNA from Hannah Witheridge body.