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    He won't do that till the trial finishes.

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    By July, Zaw and Win will have spent five percent of their life in Thai prisons for a crime they did not commit. Life can certainly be unfair. Meanwhile, the real murderers are still out there walking amongst the public and tourists.

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    Diabolical that they won't get their day in court till July.

    Jesus, just get it done EH.

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    On BBC just now the defense team stated they are happy with the new trail date, it allows them more time to prepare.

    To bad for those Burmese lads banged up though.

    Also the angst goes on for the Families of the deceased and the two Burmese lads.

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    Quite a change of events regarding the scheduled trial and prosecution of the two murders on Koh Tao supposedly by the two Burmese men (according to the Prosecution).
    By pushing the trial (witness testimony) out another seven months I'm beginning to have additional doubts.
    My worry is that it will fall off of the media charts and no one will be the wiser with limited coverage.

    In comparison, if I correctly recall the railway employee that raped , suffocated and afterwards threw a 13-year-old girl's body from the train was apprehended, confessed , prosecuted and sentenced to death all within a ten-week period.
    I thought that was exemplary quick justice...along with plenty of media coverage.

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    They must need a few more months to pony up some irrefutable "evidence"that the two lads did it.

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    Its in the UK papers today but not the Bangkok Post.

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    I think that by moving the court case back, maybe they are waiting to hear the results of OUR UK police inquiry and also what OUR coroner makes of it all !!
    If our police conclude that it is totally shambolic, and that none of the Thai Police evidence is worth a toot ,,,,, then just maybe,,,, they may be well advised to back down,,,, because ALL THE WORLD IS WATCHING !!!
    This may be their last chance to admit they were wrong,,,, and now go after the real perpetrators. I live in hope.

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    Been sorted already mate, the English cops are happy with the Thai police work.

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    ^ yep. There was no inquiry. See story on Drummonds site.

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    Pathetic, but understandable move by the defense asking for a delay,
    but the inconvinent evidence, the DNA, just wont go away .

    So they have phantom witness, too scared to testify, who are now back in Burma..

    Funny how now that the 2 immigrants are locked up there has been no further violent crime on the island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Case posponed ?

    Good - the 2 immigrants are still banged up and it will give them time to reflect and tell the truth.
    What makes you think that they were lying in court yesterday when they said they have no knowledge of the crime whatsoever, that they were sitting having a beer and left well before anything happened?

    Oh I get it, you're just a troll, I suppose. Sad case to troll on, to be honest.

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    Welcome to the Buffalo Board, Luigi...

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    ^ no bother with that. It's just that there are more tasteful threads and discussions to troll on surely.

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    Statement by the UK Foreign Office:

    A Foreign Office spokesman said: "We continue to monitor the case closely and expect the trial to be conducted in a fair and transparent way in line with international standards.

    "The British government cannot interfere with Thailand's judicial processes just as other governments are unable to interfere in UK judicial processes."

    "We continue to provide support and assistance to both the families of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller."


    So that's it then.
    You, sir, are a God among men....
    Short Men, who aren't terribly bright....
    More like dwarves with learning disabilities....
    You are a God among Dwarves With Learning Disabilities.

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    ^ they also added that they have no collected no evidence, and had a dig at the Thai police saying that they had done all they were allowed to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
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    Been sorted already mate, the English cops are happy with the Thai police work.
    What else did you expect them to say Terry? Always very polite Brit coppers, especially abroad.

    Still more to come yet. The inquest on 6 Jan will open and be immediately adjourned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
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    Been sorted already mate, the English cops are happy with the Thai police work.
    What else did you expect them to say Terry?
    Actually the Met are being reported on the BBC World Service as seeing 'confusion & inconsistencies' in the Thai police investigation, and then reportedly that there are 'questions about the strength of the case' against the B2.

    BBC World report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    What makes you think that they were lying in court yesterday when they said they have no knowledge of the crime whatsoever, that they were sitting having a beer and left well before anything happened?
    Their dna that matched that they collected from the dead sisters body makes me think they are lying .

    Why didnt these free lawyers the immigrants have , demand that their clients DNA be tested at the same 4 laboratories that the so called mafia suspect that bangkok student was ?

    Here's the report from the Briish newspaper The Telegraph

    Koh Tao murders: suspects in killing of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge say they were framed - Telegraph
    Koh Tao murders: suspects in killing of David Miller and Hannah Witheridge say they were framed
    ....
    Amnesty International called for a “transparent" inquiry into those claims,
    Would that be the same group that championed that Lindsay Sandiford caught in Bali with 5 kg of coke ?
    Not sure I'd want them on my side .

    In a letter handed to lawyers on Friday, the two suspects claimed they were being set up and thanked activists who are campaigning on their behalf.
    “We are victims of influential people,” they wrote in the letter, according to Andy Hall, a British human rights activist who is based in Thailand and was inside the court.
    The letter offered no further clues as to who those “influential people” might be
    Thats clever they are playing a guessing game ...

    The letter offered no further clues as to who those “influential people” might be. However, long-term Koh Tao residents have told The Telegraph the island is run by a tight-knit “mafia” of powerful Thai families and many there are convinced these families have information about the true culprits.
    That's the same family that at least one was happy working for on the island.

    "I'm confident because we have enough information to convince the court that the two did not commit the crime," said Nakorn Chompoochart, the head of suspects' legal team
    why get the case posponed for half a yesr then ?

    “Did you kill them or didn’t you kill them?” the judge asked at one point, according to Mr Hall.
    “No, we didn’t,” the men replied.
    The judge then urged the two men to reveal any information they had about the murders, Mr Hall added. “You don’t need to be scared. If you know who did it, tell us.”
    The men replied that they had been drunk and did not have any information about the crimes.
    But they saud “We are victims of influential people,”
    and now they have no info...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    What makes you think that they were lying in court yesterday when they said they have no knowledge of the crime whatsoever, that they were sitting having a beer and left well before anything happened?
    Their dna that matched that they collected from the dead sisters body makes me think they are lying .
    As declared by the RTP?

    UK Met officers that observed:

    Their are confusion and inconsistencies in the investigation, and questions about the strength of the case against the accused.


    I'm not sure you actually know much about the RTP.





    “Did you kill them or didn’t you kill them?” the judge asked at one point, according to Mr Hall.
    “No, we didn’t,” the men replied.
    The judge then urged the two men to reveal any information they had about the murders, Mr Hall added. “You don’t need to be scared. If you know who did it, tell us.”
    The men replied that they had been drunk and did not have any information about the crimes.
    But they saud “We are victims of influential people,”
    and now they have no info...
    Not sure how you connect not having info about the crime, and being victims of influential people unknown to them, as one and the same.

    I would say that the original police chief going after local leaders and their son, publicly declaring there's evidence against them, then being replaced immediately as head of the investigation and that avenue closed down would be far more suspicious.

    The investigation being reported as being conducted with 'confusion and inconsistencies' and their being 'questions about the strength of the case' against the B2 by the observing UK Met officers says a lot really.

    You would think that with such strong evidence as genuine DNA on the victims that the case couldn't possibly have questions about the strength of the case, wouldn't you?

    But perhaps you haven't been in Thailand all that long to understand how the country works. Or you're just trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
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    Been sorted already mate, the English cops are happy with the Thai police work.
    What else did you expect them to say Terry? Always very polite Brit coppers, especially abroad.

    They said exactly what I expected them to say, They have no power in Thailand and for them to say out rightly that the case was compromised was never going to happen.

    Total waste of time coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    UK Met officers that observed:

    Their are confusion and inconsistencies in the investigation, and questions about the strength of the case against the accused.
    Any kind of link to that ?
    only ones i can see go to Thai Visa and Facebook.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    I'm not sure you actually know much about the RTP.
    Thats true, just that they can be incompetent and or corrupt, ie the same as many other police forces around the world .
    Thailand:
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    318 841
    at 29.10.2014 (national prison administration)
    Thailand | International Centre for Prison Studies
    so are all those 300K innnocent on the back of the fact that thai police are useless ?

    The police have semen samples from the crime sceane .
    Do they match to the Burmese immigrants DNA ?
    or did the police know they didn't match , but decided that they woulnt bother looking for any suspects ?
    We need a trial to establish that, and soon, the defense delaying untill july isnt very helpful for solving the case .


    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    I would say that the original police chief going after local leaders and their son, publicly declaring there's evidence against them, then being replaced immediately as head of the investigation and that avenue closed down would be far more suspicious.
    Maybe he went after a long series of gaffs .
    the avenue wasnt closed down , they sort out and found the suspect, and believed his alibi ( rightly or wrongly).

    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    But perhaps you haven't been in Thailand all that long to understand how the country works. Or you're just trolling
    You got that right , mostly ..
    I dont travel much these days and post on TD 'cos no one else will have me, me being a racist homophic anti immigrant bigot.

    But still this case stinks of any possible truth being found due to peoples views being clouded by their love 'migrant workers' .


    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Total waste of time coming.
    Agree on that with the British police , altthough i dont think they have said much
    about the investigation yet .

    I'll ask again:
    why arn't the defense team for the Burmese suspects
    demanding that their clients DNA be tested against the samples from the crime scene as the village chiefs son Warot Tuwichia was ???????

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    the defense delaying untill july isnt very helpful for solving the case
    Twice you've said that... where does it say that the defence had it adjourned?

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    But still this case stinks of any possible truth being found due to peoples views being clouded by their love 'migrant workers' .
    Not sure where you've picked that up from. Don't think anybody is in support of the B2 and finds the police work a complete and utter disgrace to humanity because any such thing.

    so are all those 300K innnocent on the back of the fact that thai police are useless ?
    You might not remember the case a two years ago of the police entrance exam scandal. Over 100 police applicants from just one province were caught buying answers for the equivalent of 5 years salary. Now you'd have to ask why, those living here for years will understand perfectly. The MO is not justice, it is self interest and self gain.

    I'm sorry you can't join the dots. Or claim not to as some sort of troll.

    Any kind of link to that ?
    only ones i can see go to Thai Visa and Facebook.
    https://www.facebook.com/CSILA90210

    Go down to the video posted on 27th Dec at 12.57.

    BBC News Report.

    To quote the BBC newscaster:

    'Metropolitan Police say that there are 'confusion and inconsistencies in the investigation' in Thailand into the murder of........... Scotland Yard, which is observing the Thai inquiry say that 'There are questions about the strength of the case against the two men from Burma charged with murder.''

    bbc.co.uk news report.
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    Confusion, inconsistencies and questions about the strength of the case, as reported by Scotland Yard observers.....

    Which is probably them being polite about their observations. The reality of their report is more likely far more damning.


    Why do believe that these two are guilty again?

    Just trolling I suppose.
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