Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

So Blue, the cops have no confession, no DNA (unless they magically got Mr Spock to telaport the DNA from Koh Tao to BAngkok to get it tested), no witnesses, no material evidence, and CCTV which is clearly not any of these lads but is in fact clearly the sun of the mafia boss.

You still going to persist in this Thai Wai Smile BS defending the corrupt cops?

Bangkok Post
October 9, 2014
Writer: Online Reporters

Thailand’s most-respected forensics specialist cast doubts on the police investigation into the death of two British backpackers on Koh Tao Thursday, saying investigators erred when they neglected to involve a forensic pathologist.

Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan, director-general of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, told the Manager news agency that police did not understand the investigation in the bludgeoning death of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller required a medical examiner.

"The weak point (in the investigation) is that police do not understand that the case requires a forensic pathologist, so the officers who collected evidence did not call in one from Surat Thani Hospital," she said. "A case of two murdered people certainly needs a forensic physician," Khunying Porntip said.

Khunying Porntip's criticism is only the latest blast against the three-week probe into the deaths of the two British tourists Sept 15. A series of bungles - which included allowing tourists to re-enter the crime scene before all evidence was collected - followed by the arrest last week of two Myanmar nationals have led to widespread criticism and accusations the two 21-year-old migrant workers were made scapegoats for the crime.

Khunying Porntip said anyone who entered the crime scene should have received a briefing from a pathologist because it might not have been the only one. Without the involvement of a forensic physician, the investigation might not be complete, she said.

By doing all crime-scene and victim investigation themselves, police contradicted the principles of forensic science, she added.



Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan

Porntip rips Koh Tao investigation | Bangkok Post: news

Somebody post a few facepalms, please. BIG ones.

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

How on earth could they NOT understand the murders would require a medical examiner ??

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

She has proposed the investigation,is investigated again

More crucial information' sought in the case involving the murders of two british tourists

Surat Thani-based public prosecutors yesterday returned the police's investigation report into the murder of two British tourists last month to the officers that had produced it, asking them to supply "more crucial information".

Describing the killings "as high profile, attracting attention from society around the world", the prosecutors reportedly also told the police to "fix certain flaws" and make the 850-page report "more succinct", without giving them a time frame in which to do so.

Meanwhile, Parinya Sirisarakarn, a member of the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), yesterday gave new information about forensic evidence and claims made by the two suspects - Maung Saw and Maung Win - whom he had met.

He said they told him they had not used condoms while sexually violating the female victim, contrary to earlier police statements that sperm carrying their DNA was found on the outside of condoms.

Parinya also said a Rohingya interpreter was used during the police interrogation of the two suspects, who are from Rakhine state, who allegedly bore a grudge against Rohingya people, apart from their different languages.

He added that both suspects bore wounds as a result of what they claimed was "the police not treating them properly".

"However, both suspects insisted [to me] that they had committed the crimes," said the human-rights commissioner.

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday called on the Thai public and media not to specifically mention the nationality of the suspects, and suggested that they be referred to instead as "migrant workers", after news reports in global media specified the suspects as the nationals of a neighbouring country all along.

"I need to ask the Thai media for cooperation on this," he added.

The NHRC and Myanmar Embassy officials are jointly interviewing Myanmar migrant workers on Koh Tao while collecting general information.

Most of the workers reportedly say they do not believe that the suspects are the real killers, and that there must be some motive behind their having admitted to the murders.

Thai and foreign tourists are travelling in greater numbers to Koh Tao and nearby Kon Samui and Pha Ngan in the wake of the Full Moon Party last night on Pha Ngan, resulting in two extra ferry trips to accommodate them.

Bunsiri Deowanich, the manager of a ferry company, said there had been a 20-per-cent drop in visitor numbers to Koh Tao prior to the arrests of the two suspects.

A source said that personnel from the provincial port authorities were stationed at all piers to ensure extra security and handle any possible emergency.

Some 90 per cent of the roughly 15,000 rooms on Koh Tao have been occupied, and around Bt100 million would be spent last night on Full Moon events alone, said the source.

Prosecutors seek changes - The Nation

Originally Posted by Latindancer

How on earth could they NOT understand the murders would require a medical examiner ??

It might have crossed their minds which is why they quickly allowed what would turn out to be the likely suspect to wander all around the crime scene with his copper buddy.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Meanwhile, Parinya Sirisarakarn, a member of the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), yesterday gave new information about forensic evidence and claims made by the two suspects - Maung Saw and Maung Win - whom he had met.

He said they told him they had not used condoms while sexually violating the female victim, contrary to earlier police statements that sperm carrying their DNA was found on the outside of condoms.

Parinya also said a Rohingya interpreter was used during the police interrogation of the two suspects, who are from Rakhine state, who allegedly bore a grudge against Rohingya people, apart from their different languages.

He added that both suspects bore wounds as a result of what they claimed was "the police not treating them properly".

"However, both suspects insisted [to me] that they had committed the crimes," said the human-rights commissioner.

Now it must be noted the international outcry about this twerp being dubbed a commission for thailand for human rights.

Parinya Sirisarakarn, former member of the Constitution Drafting Assembly of Thailand (2007) and a prominent industrialist; .....


....The new commissioners do not come from a diverse range of social backgrounds, nor do any of them represent human rights groups. More important, local human rights groups have protested that the new commissioners lack necessary first-hand experience in protecting and promoting human rights. Vanchai, Parinya, Paibool, and Visa, in particular, have no experience at all and have no public record of demonstrating basic understanding of human rights.

In 2007, Parinya was named in a commission investigation as responsible for causing environmental damage in Thailand's northeastern region, where he holds a license to extract salt. Parinya's lack of commitment to promoting universal human rights was evident in an oral presentation to the Thai Senate in which he dismissed "Western criticisms of Burma" as "foreign interference" in domestic affairs. In that light, if made a commissioner, he stated that he would not welcome international intervention on human rights issues in Thailand.

Sorry pal, but I won't be believing a word you say matey.

"The weak point (in the investigation) is that police

she should have said

The weak point (in the investigation) is the police

Originally Posted by Latindancer

How on earth could they NOT understand the murders would require a medical examiner ??

Of course they knew, they knew that with one on the scene they would find it difficult to muddy the waters.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crim...nt-confessions

Two migrant workers from Myanmar have reportedly recanted their confessions in the Koh Tao murder case, according to a local website quoting Myanmar's 7Day Daily newspaper.


According to the report, the pair told a lawyer from the Myanmar embassy they did not kill British tourists David Miller and Hannah Witheridge last month on Koh Tao in Surat Thani. Attorney Aung Myo...


Amnesty International said Wednesday Thailand must ensure an independent investigation into mounting allegations of torture and other ill-treatment by police as it probes the murder of the two
Britons. The group spoke out one day after national police chief Somyot Poompanmuang held a press conference in Bangkok to quash allegations on social media that his officers had framed the suspects. Following...

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Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

Went right over their heads kmart

here's something of interest,according to ferry timetables there is no ferries that leave at 9pm

Despite the intense police heat on the island, none of the three left Koh Tao in the days after the killings, although one reportedly dyed his hair from fair to black. Then, finally, at 9pm Wednesday, Wyn decided to flee. He was captured at the main wharf in Nakhon Surat Thani at 6am Thursday.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/...ise-of-arrests

Ferry from Koh Samui to Koh Tao | Koh Tao Ferry

unless he was taken to surat thani. by another source.

or a non advertised ferry.

But surely as the police mentioned, they were monitoring all departures.

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

Went right over their heads kmart

Not mine but it does not negate the comment that for double murder, a trained pathologist might have been called rather than let the suspect poke about with his copper mates.

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

While I disagree with the Dr., personal politics the disinformation campaign against her is unfair and inaccurate.

All she said was [paraphrasing] the detectors seemed to work some of the time for certain people- she compared it to divining rods which also work some of the time for some people for locating water sources.
" We don't know how it works..." was her statement on diving rods which was completely net-morphed into an unconditional endorsement of the detectors.

She has always maintained the RTP should not have any responsibilities in handling evidence in murder cases.

wasn't the good Dr involved in the tsunami DNA fuck up.?

Originally Posted by YOrlov

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

While I disagree with the Dr., personal politics the disinformation campaign against her is unfair and inaccurate.

All she said was [paraphrasing] the detectors seemed to work some of the time for certain people- she compared it to divining rods which also work some of the time for some people for locating water sources.
" We don't know how it works..." was her statement on diving rods which was completely net-morphed into an unconditional endorsement of the detectors.

She has always maintained the RTP should not have any responsibilities in handling evidence in murder cases.

But they don't work do they? For any one, anytime more than random chance would dictate.

She deserved all that she got.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

see twitter about PYB son with scratches at uni.

Link, please? I'm also trying to find a link to what you posted about ;

"In 2007, Parinya was named in a commission investigation as responsible for causing environmental damage in Thailand's northeastern region, where he holds a license to extract salt. Parinya's lack of commitment to promoting universal human rights was evident in an oral presentation to the Thai Senate in which he dismissed "Western criticisms of Burma" as "foreign interference" in domestic affairs. In that light, if made a commissioner, he stated that he would not welcome international intervention on human rights issues in Thailand. "

Originally Posted by pseudolus

So Blue, the cops have no confession, no DNA (unless they magically got Mr Spock to telaport the DNA from Koh Tao to BAngkok to get it tested), no witnesses, no material evidence, and CCTV which is clearly not any of these lads but is in fact clearly the sun of the mafia boss.

They confessed - i'm not taking the work of the Myanmar government lawyer.
And still no one has answered my question . Which countries provide and pay for lawyers for citizens aressted abroad ? and whats Myanmars motive for doing so ?

Why would anyone question everything a Thai government offical says but believe everything a Myanmar one says is beyond me

Dna evidence ? from the littered cigarette and the girls body.

Dna results ? they are plenty flights from Samui .
How long does it take to process a sample ? you sound like they have to sit and watch it incubate for 7 days or something ..

Witness ? the ccctv at 7 /11 placed the accused in the area,
the 3rd immigrant ( sorry migrant ) says all 3 was on the beach that night , he left early.

Material eveidence - the phone that the littering scum tossed behind his house when it would not work.

Maybe someone else was involved , perhaps they had guitar playing jams on the beach and thats where the couple were heading , and there was other farang / thais around sometime that evening .

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by Stranger

They're all in it together, lying their asses off from the Prime Minister down to the local Thai KT lackey.

Unless he has another plan, methinks "Prey-Youth" has made a huge mistake...If the so-called influential people are behind these murders, he could easily have rousted them out...Combined with his initial foolish statements regarding the bikinis and female tourists, this oaf is really starting to "prove" himself...

It defies all logic and reason that a few crooks running a bar on a small island could be worth all this to anyone high up in Bangkok.

Blues in dream land. Didn't realise you were a Wai'er Thaier than Thai merchant.

You accept point blank 100% of what the cops are saying. Incredible.

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by Stranger

They're all in it together, lying their asses off from the Prime Minister down to the local Thai KT lackey.

Unless he has another plan, methinks "Prey-Youth" has made a huge mistake...If the so-called influential people are behind these murders, he could easily have rousted them out...Combined with his initial foolish statements regarding the bikinis and female tourists, this oaf is really starting to "prove" himself...

It defies all logic and reason that a few crooks running a bar on a small island could be worth all this to anyone high up in Bangkok.

Pappa Thug, go and have a look at his facebook page and note the people he is in photos with on a monthly basis. He is no little island crook. Hes a big time crook.

just google koh tao murders its in there somewhere, i not keep links.


Link, please? I'm also trying to find a link to what you posted about ;