Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

Any predictions on how fast or slow the trial comes to the courts.?

Me tinks this one will be a drawn out process, hoping the heat will go away.

see full story in link.

Meanwhile the director-general of the 8th Region Prosecutors’ Office, Mr Thawatchai Siengjaew, revealed that a team of five prosecutors has been tasked with the verification of the case file.

This is because of the case’s high profile and sensitivity which will greatly affect the country’s image.

He said that inspection of the case file was an important final step in the process to check for any loopholes. Should any doubts arise on any point of the case file then further interrogation of the suspects will be needed.

In closing he said that should any organization, be they human rights or otherwise wish to be privy to any facts pertaining to the case, he would be willing to answer all questions.

But this can only happen after the case file has been thoroughly verified.

Police says its tourist murder case file solid for prosecution - Thai PBS English News

The left hand does not always know what the right is doing. Here is one possible scenario :

Higher-ups pressure detectives to solve case. Detectives want to get promotions and kudos so fit up a couple of the often-reviled Burmese.....and conveniently get paid off by the rich family of the actual murderer.

Higher-ups know nothing of the set-up and a Basil Fawlty situation ensues, in which the detectives are locked in to continuing to justify their case....or else lose face in a REALLY big way.

Higher-ups continue to insist on police credibility.

Now there's five prosecutors on the case, that very well could happen, they could well be looking for a way out.

But the burmese officials on site, make me think otherwise.

Either that or they not want the Thai investment in there country.

CSI LA and M-Thai news reporting

News article from M-Thai was deleted because they reported a story with the headline “ Mystery picture Koh-Tao mafia huntin.

Sorry can't post link as mod not like anything posted in Thai.

That's the million dollar question.

Maybe today when the PM explains to the Burmese on his visit....

Originally Posted by thailazer

Originally Posted by Yasojack

CSI LA and M-Thai news reporting

News article from M-Thai was deleted because they reported a story with the headline “ Mystery picture Koh-Tao mafia huntin.

Sorry can't post link as mod not like anything posted in Thai.

At what point do you think the police will finally expand the investigation?

The only way the Junta could save face at this juncture is to close the island. Turn it into a leper colony.

Well I just hope these two 'migrants' do not commit suicide through remorse after 'insisting' their guilt to a human rights lawyer.

So Blue, the cops have no confession, no DNA (unless they magically got Mr Spock to telaport the DNA from Koh Tao to BAngkok to get it tested), no witnesses, no material evidence, and CCTV which is clearly not any of these lads but is in fact clearly the sun of the mafia boss.

You still going to persist in this Thai Wai Smile BS defending the corrupt cops?

Bangkok Post
October 9, 2014
Writer: Online Reporters

Thailand’s most-respected forensics specialist cast doubts on the police investigation into the death of two British backpackers on Koh Tao Thursday, saying investigators erred when they neglected to involve a forensic pathologist.

Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan, director-general of the Central Institute of Forensic Science, told the Manager news agency that police did not understand the investigation in the bludgeoning death of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller required a medical examiner.

"The weak point (in the investigation) is that police do not understand that the case requires a forensic pathologist, so the officers who collected evidence did not call in one from Surat Thani Hospital," she said. "A case of two murdered people certainly needs a forensic physician," Khunying Porntip said.

Khunying Porntip's criticism is only the latest blast against the three-week probe into the deaths of the two British tourists Sept 15. A series of bungles - which included allowing tourists to re-enter the crime scene before all evidence was collected - followed by the arrest last week of two Myanmar nationals have led to widespread criticism and accusations the two 21-year-old migrant workers were made scapegoats for the crime.

Khunying Porntip said anyone who entered the crime scene should have received a briefing from a pathologist because it might not have been the only one. Without the involvement of a forensic physician, the investigation might not be complete, she said.

By doing all crime-scene and victim investigation themselves, police contradicted the principles of forensic science, she added.



Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan

Porntip rips Koh Tao investigation | Bangkok Post: news

Somebody post a few facepalms, please. BIG ones.

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

Went right over their heads kmart

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

Went right over their heads kmart

Not mine but it does not negate the comment that for double murder, a trained pathologist might have been called rather than let the suspect poke about with his copper mates.

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

While I disagree with the Dr., personal politics the disinformation campaign against her is unfair and inaccurate.

All she said was [paraphrasing] the detectors seemed to work some of the time for certain people- she compared it to divining rods which also work some of the time for some people for locating water sources.
" We don't know how it works..." was her statement on diving rods which was completely net-morphed into an unconditional endorsement of the detectors.

She has always maintained the RTP should not have any responsibilities in handling evidence in murder cases.

Originally Posted by YOrlov

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Yasojack

jeez the establishments weird lady comes out. someone is in real shit.

Has she proposed bomb scanners yet?

While I disagree with the Dr., personal politics the disinformation campaign against her is unfair and inaccurate.

All she said was [paraphrasing] the detectors seemed to work some of the time for certain people- she compared it to divining rods which also work some of the time for some people for locating water sources.
" We don't know how it works..." was her statement on diving rods which was completely net-morphed into an unconditional endorsement of the detectors.

She has always maintained the RTP should not have any responsibilities in handling evidence in murder cases.

But they don't work do they? For any one, anytime more than random chance would dictate.

She deserved all that she got.

How on earth could they NOT understand the murders would require a medical examiner ??

Originally Posted by Latindancer

How on earth could they NOT understand the murders would require a medical examiner ??

Of course they knew, they knew that with one on the scene they would find it difficult to muddy the waters.

She has proposed the investigation,is investigated again

More crucial information' sought in the case involving the murders of two british tourists

Surat Thani-based public prosecutors yesterday returned the police's investigation report into the murder of two British tourists last month to the officers that had produced it, asking them to supply "more crucial information".

Describing the killings "as high profile, attracting attention from society around the world", the prosecutors reportedly also told the police to "fix certain flaws" and make the 850-page report "more succinct", without giving them a time frame in which to do so.

Meanwhile, Parinya Sirisarakarn, a member of the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), yesterday gave new information about forensic evidence and claims made by the two suspects - Maung Saw and Maung Win - whom he had met.

He said they told him they had not used condoms while sexually violating the female victim, contrary to earlier police statements that sperm carrying their DNA was found on the outside of condoms.

Parinya also said a Rohingya interpreter was used during the police interrogation of the two suspects, who are from Rakhine state, who allegedly bore a grudge against Rohingya people, apart from their different languages.

He added that both suspects bore wounds as a result of what they claimed was "the police not treating them properly".

"However, both suspects insisted [to me] that they had committed the crimes," said the human-rights commissioner.

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday called on the Thai public and media not to specifically mention the nationality of the suspects, and suggested that they be referred to instead as "migrant workers", after news reports in global media specified the suspects as the nationals of a neighbouring country all along.

"I need to ask the Thai media for cooperation on this," he added.

The NHRC and Myanmar Embassy officials are jointly interviewing Myanmar migrant workers on Koh Tao while collecting general information.

Most of the workers reportedly say they do not believe that the suspects are the real killers, and that there must be some motive behind their having admitted to the murders.

Thai and foreign tourists are travelling in greater numbers to Koh Tao and nearby Kon Samui and Pha Ngan in the wake of the Full Moon Party last night on Pha Ngan, resulting in two extra ferry trips to accommodate them.

Bunsiri Deowanich, the manager of a ferry company, said there had been a 20-per-cent drop in visitor numbers to Koh Tao prior to the arrests of the two suspects.

A source said that personnel from the provincial port authorities were stationed at all piers to ensure extra security and handle any possible emergency.

Some 90 per cent of the roughly 15,000 rooms on Koh Tao have been occupied, and around Bt100 million would be spent last night on Full Moon events alone, said the source.

Prosecutors seek changes - The Nation

Originally Posted by Latindancer

How on earth could they NOT understand the murders would require a medical examiner ??

It might have crossed their minds which is why they quickly allowed what would turn out to be the likely suspect to wander all around the crime scene with his copper buddy.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Meanwhile, Parinya Sirisarakarn, a member of the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), yesterday gave new information about forensic evidence and claims made by the two suspects - Maung Saw and Maung Win - whom he had met.

He said they told him they had not used condoms while sexually violating the female victim, contrary to earlier police statements that sperm carrying their DNA was found on the outside of condoms.

Parinya also said a Rohingya interpreter was used during the police interrogation of the two suspects, who are from Rakhine state, who allegedly bore a grudge against Rohingya people, apart from their different languages.

He added that both suspects bore wounds as a result of what they claimed was "the police not treating them properly".

"However, both suspects insisted [to me] that they had committed the crimes," said the human-rights commissioner.

Now it must be noted the international outcry about this twerp being dubbed a commission for thailand for human rights.

Parinya Sirisarakarn, former member of the Constitution Drafting Assembly of Thailand (2007) and a prominent industrialist; .....


....The new commissioners do not come from a diverse range of social backgrounds, nor do any of them represent human rights groups. More important, local human rights groups have protested that the new commissioners lack necessary first-hand experience in protecting and promoting human rights. Vanchai, Parinya, Paibool, and Visa, in particular, have no experience at all and have no public record of demonstrating basic understanding of human rights.

In 2007, Parinya was named in a commission investigation as responsible for causing environmental damage in Thailand's northeastern region, where he holds a license to extract salt. Parinya's lack of commitment to promoting universal human rights was evident in an oral presentation to the Thai Senate in which he dismissed "Western criticisms of Burma" as "foreign interference" in domestic affairs. In that light, if made a commissioner, he stated that he would not welcome international intervention on human rights issues in Thailand.

Sorry pal, but I won't be believing a word you say matey.