Thread: Thousands to occupy Wall Street in protest

The complete failure (and unnoticed success) of Occupy Iowa Caucus

The group's Iowa initiative was hampered by disorganization -- but it was a sign of a movement in transition

Percent of “uncommitted” votes cast out of the total: negligible. Number of rich eaten: zero.

(Oh well. )

Yet if you examine other metrics, the movement did its part. The real success of the broader Occupy movement thus far, after all, has been its ability to propagate and adapt as it metastasizes from city to city like — pardon the analogy — a cancer, for which the real threat to a system’s vitals isn’t one particularly big cell but an agglomeration of them autonomously multiplying all over the place. By that standard of measure, Occupy Iowa Caucus was part of the Occupy Wall Street movement’s organic success: just follow the political reporters eastward next week.

The complete failure (and unnoticed success) of Occupy Iowa Caucus - Salon.com

The Republicans are really screaming about Cordroy's appointment during the Congress' recess. It's as though Obama is the first president to do such a thing.

About time Obama had balls enough to do what past presidents did routinely to get their way without Congressional approval.

Originally Posted by Hampsha

"My understanding of a bonus is that it’s a special reward for superior performance

If that is the basis of a lawsuit then it's a very weak case. A bonus can (and often is) paid for "superior" perfromance, but it can be paid just for completing a series of projects or reaching a certain goal. A bonus can be paid for all sorts of things including a "team" bonus which is paid to all participants of the team and divided in accordance with some formula...regardless of the individual performances. The criteria for earning bonus payments is usually spelled out in the form or an employment contract. Executive bonus payments have to be approved by the board of directors....who in turn are responsible to the shareholders.

Not sure what they taught at Oxford......but apparently how bank bonus payments are earned was not on the curriculum if he thinks they are only for "superior" performance. A first year law student could defend against that one....

Anyway...WTF has bonus payments got to do with anything......fraud, non-disclosure and violation of fiducary trust are the wrongdoings.....not being overpaid. Lots of people are overpaid.....and not just in the investment banking business.

I wish the dude success in any case. Somebody needs to shake things up in DC and Wall St......but having seen Obama's track record in staff selection, it's likely more window dressing. Don't hold your breath if you'r expecting some kind of sweeping changes.

^^ Those hypocrites have not a leg to stand on...

Recess Appointments Made by President George W. Bush, January 20, 2001 October 31, 2008

Under the Constitution, the President and the Senate share the power to make appointments to the highest-level politically appointed positions in the federal government. The Constitution also empowers the President unilaterally to make a temporary appointment to such a position if it is vacant and the Senate is in recess. Such an appointment, termed a recess appointment, expires at the end of the following session of the Senate. This report identifies recess appointments made by President George W. Bush from the time he took office on January 20, 2001, through October 31, 2008. Basic descriptive statistics regarding these appointments are also provided. As of October 31, 2008, President Bush had made 171 recess appointments. President William J. Clinton, in comparison, made a total of 139 recess appointments during the course of his presidency. Of President Bush's 171 recess appointments, 99 were to full-time positions, and the remaining 72 were to part-time positions. Thirty were made during recesses between Congresses or between sessions of Congress (intersession recess appointments). The remaining 141 were made during recesses within sessions of Congress (intrasession recess appointments). The duration of the 24 recesses during which President Bush made recess appointments ranged from 10 to 47 days. ...

See the report here...

Recess Appointments Made by President George W. Bush, January 20, 2001October 31, 2008 - Open CRS

Originally Posted by misskit

The Republicans are really screaming about Cordroy's appointment during the Congress' recess. It's as though Obama is the first president to do such a thing.

About time Obama had balls enough to do what past presidents did routinely to get their way without Congressional approval.

Rivals in politics always scream outrage. It's all part of how the game is played. They know perfectly well that Obama is playing by the same rules that his predecessors used, but they also know that most people don't know that....so it can be effective in making your rival look like an asshole.....in some cases.
Party politics does not really cater to those who know what goes on.....it's mostly theatre for those who don't......and makes good talking points for Fox et al....

Originally Posted by koman

Party politics does not really cater to those who know what goes on.....it's mostly theatre for those who don't

Excellent post and so true..

Now that the shocking news is out about Obama reducing the military budget by $450 million.....I have made the decision to buy only California wine. I know it's a small token gesture, but the idea that America maybe can't afford a really really big military any more, really pisses me off..... especially if the savings are going to be wasted on that frigging healthcare thing.....

^Watch out where that California wine was produced. I bought a box of Inglenook the other day thinking it was from Napa Valley. When I got it home and opened it, I saw it was from Chile.

Originally Posted by misskit

^Watch out where that California wine was produced. I bought a box of Inglenook the other day thinking it was from Napa Valley. When I got it home and opened it, I saw it was from Chile.

Well, at least it was not made in China.....like my expensive Bosh saw that I assumed was made in Germany..... Fortunately Chilean wine is ususally very good.....we will have to wait and see with this friggin saw..... Anyway, that will teach you to buy wine in a box...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Source

Has anybody ever pointed out to BM that myrightwingdad.net is a satire site dedicated to pointing out the idiocy of the right-wing Fw:FWD:fw:fwd:fwd:fwd: chain mails that go around?

If not then somebody should, because he's going to look awfully silly when he starts citing Stephen Colbert or The Onion to back up his points..

Some funny John Stewart Daily show takes on the bankers and the new Obama appointee.

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - Political Comedy - Fake News | Comedy Central

vid clip inside:

‘Wild Old Women’ Close San Francisco Bank Of America Branch.


January 5, 2012 3:24 PM


SAN FRANCISCO (KCBS) – It was a slow-moving Occupy Wall Street protest, but it was an effective one. A dozen senior citizens calling themselves “the wild old women” succeeded in closing a Bank of America branch in Bernal Heights Thursday.

The women, aged 69 to 82, who live at the senior home up Mission street from the Bernal Heights Bank of America branch, decided to hold their own protest by doing what they called a “run on the bank.”

Tita Caldwell, 80, who led the charge of women with walkers and wheelchairs, said that they’re demanding the bank lower fees, pay higher taxes, and stop foreclosing on, and evicting, homeowners.

”We’re upset about what the banks are doing, particularly in our neighborhood and neighboring areas, in evicting people and foreclosing on their homes,” said Caldwell. “We’re upset because the banks are raising their rates because it really affects seniors who are on a fixed income.”

As they arrived, Bank of America closed and locked its doors, to the surprise and delight of the elderly protestors, who said that they had no intention of storming the bank.

The women waved signs, but didn’t march or chant, with one woman on supplemental oxygen adding that the group was too old for that.

‘Wild Old Women’ Close San Francisco Bank Of America Branch « CBS San Francisco

Originally Posted by koman

Well, at least it was not made in China.....like my expensive Bosh sore that I assumed was made in Germany.....

I go past where it was made every day.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by koman

Well, at least it was not made in China.....like my expensive Bosh saw that I assumed was made in Germany.....

I go past where it was made every day.

As it turns out, it's a damn good saw. It even cuts wood and has lasted over a month already. Well done China...

interesting,


David Icke at the Wall Street Occupy protest in New York - an hour-long 'ad-lib' documentary


Saturday, 07 January 2012 11:46

While there are those who only think of themselves and seek only to parasite off the talents and efforts of others, here are people who are trying to make a difference in this world dictated by parasites.

Uploaded by davidicke on Jan 6, 2012
David Icke's 'ad lib' documentary at Occupy Wall Street - the peoples' voice and the agent provocateurs of the New York Police

Originally Posted by HansuMan

Originally Posted by nostromo

I recall someone on this forum saying it was NYC fire department that burnt down twin towers To me it was an insult. Bloody occupy moon - no, occupy pluto.

In this forum? This thread? Could you please link to said claim? Coz off hand this alleged claim reeks of Boxer's Rule #4 (Use a straw man). Such a claim would indeed be insulting to, as one example,

Firefighters for 9/11 Truth:

An Appeal to Firefighters, Present and Past from a retired FDNY Lieutenant

Fellow Firefighters, A great tragedy befell our community on September 11, 2001, an unprecedented 343 deaths in the line of duty. As horrible as that toll is, if there were a rational explanation for it, we could accept it and mourn. We all understood the risk we accepted when we took the oath of office, that chance might cut short our lives when we placed ourselves in harm’s way in the public’s service. This is what we are paid for and it is our honor. However, in short, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. We are asked to believe that on that day three structural steel buildings, which have never before in history collapsed because of fire, fell neatly into their basements at the speed of gravity, their concrete reduced to dust. We are asked to believe that jet fuel (kerosene) can melt steel. We are asked to believe that the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, that responded to sixty-eight emergencies in the year prior to 9-11 in less than twenty minutes allowed aircraft to wander about for up to an hour and a half. We are asked to believe that the steel and titanium components of an aircraft that supposedly hit the Pentagon “evaporated”. There is much, much more if anyone cares to look into it. Trade Tower #7 by itself is the “smoking gun”. Not hit by an aircraft, with only a few relatively small fires, it came down in a classic crimp and implosion, going straight into its basement, something only very precise demolition can accomplish, which takes days if not weeks to prepare. The 9-11 Commission didn’t even mention it, and F.E.M.A. actually stated they DIDN’T KNOW WHY IT COLLAPSED AND LEFT IT AT THAT. Brothers, I know that the implications of the above are hard, almost unthinkable, but the official explanation is utter nonsense, and three hundred and forty three murdered brothers are crying out for justice. Demand a genuine investigation into the events of September 11!


-Anton Vodvarka, Lt. FDNY (ret)

... also these 9/11 Truth folks would surely find your unsourced claim "saying it was NYC fire department that burnt down twin towers" insulting,

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so, you got a link to this alleged idiotic claim, nostromo?

I dont remember this particular post, but having looked few pages back there is this
https://teakdoor.com/world-news/96548...ml#post1886615
which is essentially same, naturally conspiracy theory attached.
There are many posts claiming this was a conspiracy by US.
I think it was simply an major islamic terrorist attack , like in London and Spain etc.

I think I have islamic fatwa kill order on me like mr Salman Rushdie, that Danish who mad that cartoon, etc. for responding after particular post linked above in angry way, got me called a "nigger" and something, but hey it does not bother me, I could be black, white, cybernetic life form, Skynet central computer on satellite looking at you right now, or a dog.

Is the majority here (feels like that, or maybe they should louder) really thinking WTC and Pentagon attacks were organized by US goverment or CIA and there was a conspiracy to do that?

Double post removed - it didnt show up first.

Originally Posted by nostromo

Is the majority here (feels like that, or maybe they should louder) really thinking WTC and Pentagon attacks were organized by US goverment or CIA and there was a conspiracy to do that?

Can't speak for the majority, but I don't think WTC and Pentagon attacks were government conspiracies. I think they were terrorist attacks which caused more destruction than what the terrorists themselves expected.

DONT TRUST THE WEB.........
but you get all your informaton and "truth" from the web it seems.......or are you on a different web to the rest of us. Is there some kind of goverment/Zionist/hacker free web that we don't know about, or is it more like....google whack-job conspiricy theories....and Pow....truth suddenly appears in a whole page of sites all dedicated to debunking every other site ,news outlet, journalist and every other information source on the planet?

If I for some reason began to question the idea that the earth really is a sphere, and I google a site sponsored by the flat earth society......should I go...WOW...truth at last, or stick to the more widely accepted sources to reasure myself that the earth is in fact a sphere.....always bearing in mind that poor old Galileo was kicked out of the Catholic church for proposing such an outrageous idea in the first place. The world and of course the RC church not being the centre of the universe was quite inconceivable after all.

Then 400 years later the church goes and re-instates him, finally agreeing that he was right after all. Bit slow to respond, but still...vindicated in the end eh.
Very elusive this truth thing..... Carry on.