Any doubts about Climate Change?

**Jesus Jones** · 17-04-2016, 08:24 PM

Well i've just watched an episode of 'life after humans' on History 2. I feel guilty, I do. Well and truly convinced me we humans are a deadly bacteria to our planet!

I just wonder if I'm doing enough with my solar powered houses and organic living?

**Sumbitch** · 18-04-2016, 08:34 AM

The show doesn't show any harm coming to other species. Nothing else gives a shit whether we live or die. We're deadly only to ourselves.

I don't believe you should feel guilty either. We are insignificant as a species and as individuals.

And who knows? Maybe those two ideas are mutually exclusive.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2016, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by wjblaney

The show doesn't show any harm coming to other species. Nothing else gives a shit whether we live or die. We're deadly only to ourselves.

I don't believe you should feel guilty either. We are insignificant as a species and as individuals.

And who knows? Maybe those two ideas are mutually exclusive.

And on the plus side, if we do get wiped out we'll make an excellent source of nutrition, especially in the developed world.

Look for a NatGeo show from 2008 called Aftermath: Population Zero.

**Sumbitch** · 18-04-2016, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And on the plus side, if we do get wiped out we'll make an excellent source of nutrition, especially in the developed world.

Look for a NatGeo show from 2008 called Aftermath: Population Zero.

And Life After Humans took no notice of our extinction, other than the artifacts left behind.

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

more on March 2016,…..

blah blah blah.

Good idea then to create massive carbon tax derivative bubble to enslave the human race, and at the same time to remove carbon dioxide from the air so that plant life fails and life on earth become unsustainable.

Its a con. Its a scam.

This is funny, and some real seeds of truth in it. .

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...te-change.html

Farewell to the man who invented 'climate change’

To this day, global climate policy is still shaped by the agenda of Maurice Strong, a Canadian multimillionaire

A very odd thing happened last weekend. The death was announced of the man who, in the past 40 years, has arguably been more influential on global politics than any other single individual. Yet the world scarcely noticed.

Had it not been for this man, we would not last week have seen 150 heads of government joining 40,000 delegates in Paris for that mammoth climate conference: the 21st such get-together since, in 1992, he masterminded the Rio “Earth Summit”, the largest political gathering in history. Yet few people even know his name.

Some years back, when I was researching for a book called The Real Global Warming Disaster, charting how the late-20th-century panic over climate change came about, few things surprised me more than to discover the absolutely central role played in the whole story by a Canadian socialist multimillionaire, Maurice Strong.

During the Second World War, having emerged from humble origins in the Great Depression, Strong became convinced that the new United Nations should become a world government, dedicated to ensuring that the wealth enjoyed by the richer countries of the West should be spread out around the world’s underprivileged majority.

In the Sixties, having become very rich himself from Canada’s oil industry, Strong came to see that the key to his vision was “environmentalism”, the one cause the UN could harness to make itself a truly powerful world government.

A superb political operator, in 1972 he set up a UN “Environment Conference” in Stockholm, to declare that the Earth’s resources were the common inheritance of all mankind. They should no longer be exploited for the benefit of only a few countries, at the expense of poorer countries across the globe.

To pursue this, he became founding director of a new agency, the UN Environment Programme (UNEP), and in the Eighties he took up the cause of a tiny group of international meteorologists who had come to believe that the world faced catastrophic warming. In 1988, UNEP sponsored this little group into setting up the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

In 1992, now allied with the IPCC, Strong pulled off his greatest coup when he set up another new body, the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), to stage that colossal “Earth Summit” over which he presided in Rio, arranging for it to be attended not only by 108 world leaders and 100,000 others but also by 20,000 UN-funded “green activists”.

It is the UNFCCC which in effect has dictated the global climate change agenda ever since. Almost yearly it has staged huge conferences, notably those at Kyoto (1997), Copenhagen (2009) and the present one in Paris. And all along it has been Strong’s ideology, enshrined at Rio in “Agenda 21”, which has continued to shape the entire process, centred on the principle that the richer developed countries must pay for a problem they created, to the financial benefit of all those “developing countries” that have been its main victims.

In 2005, Strong was caught having been illicitly paid $1 million from the UN’s Oil for Food programme, supposedly set up to allow Saddam Hussein to pay in oil to feed starving Iraqis. He retired to a flat in Beijing, where he had been close to China’s Communist leaders back to Mao. It was from there that he returned home to Canada to die,on November 27.

To this day, global climate policy is still shaped by Strong’s Agenda 21, as was highlighted last February when Christiana Figueres, the Costa Rican Marxist now head of the UNFCCC and organiser of the Paris conference, urged that the West should give “$1 trillion a year” to the “developing” world.

But the wonderful irony is that the reason why Paris will fail, like Copenhagen before it, is that those “developing countries”, led by China and India – now the world’s first and third largest “CO2 emitters” – have not the slightest intention of curbing their emissions. It is for the West to do that, for creating “the problem”. Thus, just as he died, Strong’s dream is more than ever falling apart – thanks to those very countries his socialist vision was intended to help.

Now read this all again. Strong, a Marxist (like obomba, like cameron) set it all up. He did. He was an Oil Millionaire, and he set it all up. He was an absolute CROOK, and he set it all up - was the driving force behind it all. China never will do anything, but they never were, as Strong went to retire in China when his work had been done. It will cripple the west, and stooges like landreth are guilty as hell of pushing this fake agenda - they should make pushing the climate nazi agenda against the law... and put them in bloody prison where they belong. No wonder this fool loves hillery so much - another CROOK.

The global bank (World Conservation Bank*) set up by Mauri Strong was funded and facilitated by... guessed it yet? Edmond de Rothschild. You look at all funds etc associated with this scam... and you will find Rockefeller and Edmond de Rothschild in there somewhere because.... ITS A SCAM.

Orwell 101 - World Conservation Bank = 90% of the People of the world destruction fund

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 03:16 PM

Here is Mauri talking about Licenses to have children.

The man in a monster. When he is talking about "we", you should know that he is talking about him and his mates, not Man.

Yessss.... carbon tax is the way forward - this man is 100% trustworthy. .... just like landreths other crush is, hillary.

**bsnub** · 18-04-2016, 03:18 PM

^ You are a shill for big oil.

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2016, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ You are a shill for big oil.

No he isn't, he's just a paranoid dickhead.

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ You are a shill for big oil.

No, dipshit, I am not.

However, the INVENTOR of the climate scam WAS BIG OIL.. Emphasis on INVENTOR - invented.. He made it up.

Still stoooppid are you? Big Oil and Bankers are the same people. Working hand in hand.

Gullible fool.

**bsnub** · 18-04-2016, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

However, the INVENTOR of the climate scam WAS BIG OIL

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Gullible fool.

Yes you are. You take every tin foil conspiracy hook line and sinker. We have PMed back and forth you know that there are several areas that we agree but when you go nutter with this type of shit you just lose all credibility.

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 04:02 PM

Oh dear. Obvious why snubb is such a fool .

Maurice "Criminal" Strong. Not Big Oil then?

leaving the firm in 1956 and setting up his own firm, M.F. Strong Management, assisting investors in locating opportunities in the Alberta oil patch.[13]
In the 1950s, he took over a small natural gas company, Ajax Petroleum, and built it into one of the leading companies in the industry, Norcen Resources. This attracted the attention of one of Canada’s principal investment corporations with extensive interests in the energy and utility businesses, Power Corporation of Canada. It appointed him initially as its executive vice president and then president from 1961 until 1966.
In 1976, at the request of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, Strong returned to Canada to head the newly created national oil company, Petro-Canada.[14]

Filter your water, snubb, get in the sun for some vitamin D, and cut out the process food junk you live on. You are not a cu nt, like harry is, but you are being chemically reduced into one. Avoid at all costs and save yourself unless you really want to end up like galactic knobber harry, the thing that is always wrong, can never understand anything, and is basically a wart on a slugs rectum.

See what I mean ? nothing to say, just a moron like one of the dim kids at the back of class, 3 years older than everyone else, but still thinks he is clever

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2016, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

when you go nutter with this type of shit you just lose all credibility.

Don't be stupid. That implies that he actually had some.

**bsnub** · 18-04-2016, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

cut out the process food junk you live on.

I eat junk food? Ok what do you eat lentils and lemongrass? I eat mostly organic locally sourced food. I never eat at corporate chains so what are you on about?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

You are not a cu nt, like harry is, but you are being chemically reduced into one.

Ok well you should read above.

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 04:24 PM

Snubbing -

MAurice strong. Where did he get his millions from?

Big Oil

Mauurice Strong. True or false - He was instrumental in the climate change agenda?

True

Now I know that like Harry you find it difficult to face actual facts and prefer to resort to ad hominems instead, but fir the love of god, try and address my claims for once.

The above - correct or not? If you answer properly I will post up my electric bill of the last months showing the Euro rebate I got for supplying to the grid, and not taking..... big oil shill indeed. joker .

**bsnub** · 18-04-2016, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Mauurice Strong

You are not that smart and it has been proven on this forum that you have no concept of economics. This man is nothing compared to the multi trillion oil/gas industry that is perpetuating the entire Sara Palin hoax type theory. Good god you are a moron. Big oil would lose trillions globally with a carbon tax you nitwit.

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Mauurice Strong

You are not that smart and it has been proven on this forum that you have no concept of economics. This man is nothing compared to the multi trillion oil/gas industry that is perpetuating the entire Sara Palin hoax type theory. Good god you are a moron. Big oil would lose trillions globally with a carbon tax you nitwit.

LOL - can not do it, and you still think that Big OIl and Big Banking are different. They are the same. They are the same. They are the same. To separate big oil from big banking would be like taking a cup full of very specific water molecules from a bath tub full of water. They are the same. SAME SAME SAME SAME FFS.

Face it - you are being conned. harry doesn't care because he is a retard. But you should at least face up to the scam you are supporting before you go and vote for hillary after Bernie has pulled out..

And what the fuck has this got to do with economics?

Strong owned a large oil company . Strong created the climate change agenda.

Both are factually correct no matter how much you want to wriggle away from it in case landreth calls you stooooopid for not agreeing with everything the feckless trustfund kiddie writes.

As I always say, and people like you always refuse to do, tell me what part of the original post I wronte about Maurice strong is NOT TRUE. Which part. Challenge it. Debate it. EVen just quote a bit and say "this is bullshit".

Youu cant - you know it is all true but can not dare to accept that.

**bsnub** · 18-04-2016, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

And what the fuck has this got to do with economics?

You did not say this?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Strong owned a large oil company . Strong created the climate change agenda.

Tiny compared to big oil he is an insect.

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by pseudolus

And what the fuck has this got to do with economics?

You did not say this?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Strong owned a large oil company . Strong created the climate change agenda.

Tiny compared to big oil he is an insect.

and big oil is minuscule compared to the derivative bubble.

What has economics got to do with the 2 facts - Creator of Climate SCAM is maurice strong, and he is big oil to the core. What you want me to do? demonstrate the elacsticies of that statement as compared to the vacuum in your head?

He was a multi millionaire who owned a large Canada oil company. So you think he would have an ANTI OIL agenda ? Do me a favour - the force is not so strong in you. Drunk?

**harrybarracuda** · 18-04-2016, 05:11 PM

Oh FFS Snubby, pseudo's just found another conspiracy rant to go off on, just ignore it because it's fucking meaningless.

In Strong's own words:

Q: Some of the criticism, particularly in this internet age, can be like a virus, going completely unchallenged…

If I spent my time responding to it I'd be doing nothing else. The best thing is just to keep doing what you think is right. I have a website for people to get some factual information about me. That is a type of response, I suppose. Anyone who is seriously interested in me would usually do a little more homework and realise that the extreme criticisms are almost exclusively ideologically based. And they don't bother with facts, they just distort or misrepresent the facts. They haven't silenced me.

It's just typical pseudopuss bullshit nutjob ranting and raving.

Maurice Strong on climate 'conspiracy', Bilberberg and population control | Environment | The Guardian

**AntRobertson** · 18-04-2016, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

You take every tin foil conspiracy hook line and sinker.

It's a big, scary, world out there and the only way some people can make sense of their place in it is to credit events to shadowy powers etc. - that way they don't have to accept that stuff just happens beyond the control of us puny humans. It gives a sense of control and order albeit without the actual control. Plus research shows that people who believe one conspiracy theory are more susceptible to believing others.

Which is all kinda understandable really.

But then you have those that take it to the nth degree. There are more than a couple of those here on TD. It may actually be a conspiracy amongst tin foil manufacturers.

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Oh FFS Snubby, pseudo's just found another conspiracy rant to go off on, just ignore it because it's fucking meaningless.

In Strong's own words:

Q: Some of the criticism, particularly in this internet age, can be like a virus, going completely unchallenged…

If I spent my time responding to it I'd be doing nothing else. The best thing is just to keep doing what you think is right. I have a website for people to get some factual information about me. That is a type of response, I suppose. Anyone who is seriously interested in me would usually do a little more homework and realise that the extreme criticisms are almost exclusively ideologically based. And they don't bother with facts, they just distort or misrepresent the facts. They haven't silenced me.

It's just typical pseudopuss bullshit nutjob ranting and raving.

Maurice Strong on climate 'conspiracy', Bilberberg and population control | Environment | The Guardian

Its a bit like taking the word of Jimmy Savile that he was not a Pedo.

"Jimmy - you are a pedo."

Jimmy "If I spent my time responding to it I'd be doing nothing else. The best thing is just to keep doing what you think is right. I have a website for people to get some factual information about me. That is a type of response, I suppose. Anyone who is seriously interested in me would usually do a little more homework and realise that ti raise money for charity and are friends of the royals and governemnt. And they don't bother with facts, they just distort or misrepresent the facts. They haven't silenced me."

Then fools liek harry, snubb, ant would believe him.... because well he said he wasn't.

**bsnub** · 18-04-2016, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It's a big, scary, world out there and the only way some people can make sense of their place in it is to credit events to shadowy powers etc.

Pseudo is not entirely always off base. He is correct about the US need to abolish the Fed bank.

**pseudolus** · 18-04-2016, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It's a big, scary, world out there and the only way some people can make sense of their place in it is to credit events to shadowy powers etc.

Pseudo is not entirely always off base. He is correct about the US need to abolish the Fed bank.

Oh don't say that - Ant and Harry believe the Fed is a Federal Govermnent central bank, and not private. They also both believe that the Fed being a private bank is a good thing!

ps - the Fed are in Climate Scam up to their ears... as it is owned by the same people who are running climate scam.

**bsnub** · 18-04-2016, 05:30 PM

^ You are in the hands of the oligarchs. I feel so so sorry.

**AntRobertson** · 18-04-2016, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Oh don't say that - Ant and Harry believe the Fed is a Federal Govermnent central bank, and not private. They also both believe that the Fed being a private bank is a good thing!

That so? I don't suppose you could provide any sort of evidence to back up and show where I have ever said anything of the sort could you? Allow me to answer that for you: no, you can't, because I have never said anything of the sort.

See, this is where you go off the rails with your logical fallacies (and other stuff that you simply just make up).

German Shepards are dogs but that doesn't mean that all dogs are German Shepards, pseudo.

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