Thread: Evolution vs Bible

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Prove the resurrection.

Harvard Law professor Simon Greenleaf did just that:

"Greenleaf, one of the principle founders of the Harvard Law School, originally set out to disprove the biblical testimony concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He was certain that a careful examination of the internal witness of the Gospels would dispel all the myths at the heart of Christianity. But this legal scholar came to the conclusion that the witnesses were reliable, and that the resurrection did in fact happen. Made available online by Shane Rosenthal for Reformation Ink, this essay is in the public domain and may be freely copied and distributed."

Simon Greenleaf

"He is distinguished as one who applied the canons of the ancient document rule to establish the authenticity of the gospel accounts, as well as cross-examination principles in assessing the testimony of those who bore witness to the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ."

He was born to Jewish parents, although he later considered himself to be agnostic before studying the Gospels and converting to Christianity.

Simon Greenleaf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf (1783-1853)

Greenleaf, one of the principle founders of the Harvard Law School, originally set out to disprove the biblical testimony concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He was certain that a careful examination of the internal witness of the Gospels would dispel all the myths at the heart of Christianity. But this legal scholar came to the conclusion that the witnesses were reliable, and that the resurrection did in fact happen. "

Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf

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Greenleaf, Simon

Greenleaf, Simon, 1783–1853, American legal writer, b. Newburyport, Mass. A member of the Maine bar, he won a high reputation for legal scholarship early in his career. With the admission (1820) of Maine as a state, he was elected to a term in the legislature and was appointed reporter of the Maine supreme court. In 1833 he resigned this position and accepted the invitation of Joseph Story to become a professor of law at Harvard. Much of the excellence of Harvard Law School is attributed to these two men. Greenleaf's Treatise on the Law of Evidence (3 vol., 1842–53) for many years was the standard American work on the subject."

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0821756.html

""it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."

(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).

The Resurrection of Jesus Christ, Fact or Fiction?

FACT.

It is impossible to either prove, or, disprove the existence of God, so, why bother. We will all find out one day. Let's just wait until then.

it seems a shame that all the longest threads wind up being arugements with crazies like smeg and kerux ....

Stop being so concerned about the longest threads, and start being concerned with content and you won't have a problem w/o posters.

The internet is about content.

Taking a non-interesting topic and trying to develop content isn't going to make a long thread.

The content and the arguments you so much diskike will.

It is not possible to scientifically prove or disprove the existence of God. It is a matter of faith. I respect the people who believe there is one or many Gods.

But science will prevail, because false theories are eventually disproved.

Trying to study the gospels to find out the truth about the resurrection is akin to study the play of Hamlet trying to find out if Shakespeare's mother was menstruating when he penned the "To be or not to be" monologue in Hamlet.

Originally Posted by Skulldigger

It is not possible to scientifically prove or disprove the existence of God. It is a matter of faith. I respect the people who believe there is one or many Gods.

Sometimes we can agree on something.

Now, remove that terrible avatar. It sucks.

^It's has been written in Rolling Stone.

It must be true!

Originally Posted by Lily

^It's has been written in Rolling Stone.

It must be true!

link please ?

^Well Willy, no I can't prove it, but I believe it is true, so it must be.

^ I'm sorry if its not in the bible - then it cannot be true!

Originally Posted by kerux

kingwithlittlewilly,

I've taken the claims of the drift allegation at face value.

Please provide the evidence that the continent that is allegedly moving a fingernail length a year is actually doing that.

Show us this 'observable evidence." Where is it?

You may search for this yourself, if you are interested - not an easy subject, but it's all documented.

Science has developed instruments to measure what you cannot observe with your eyes. Or do you not believe in the "paradigm" which enables us to install Tsunami warning systems, for example, either?
Perhaps Television doesn't show images of real people, is it an illusion created by the Devil?

Answer me this, kerux:
Do you believe the earth is flat? Do you know anyone who has 'observed' it being a globe?

You may search for this yourself, if you are interested - not an easy subject, but it's all documented.

Well, if you know this to be a fact, bring one documented piece of evidence here for us to take a look at.

Science has developed instruments to measure what you cannot observe with your eyes. Or do you not believe in the "paradigm" which enables us to install Tsunami warning systems, for example, either?

A tsunami warning system is most likely based upon the seismic graph as it's primary warning aid. There's a huge difference between measuring seismic activity like earthquakes, and the movement of entire regions of the earth an inch a year.

Get real.

Originally Posted by stroller

Do you believe the earth is flat? Do you know anyone who has 'observed' it being a globe?

Yuri Gagarin in 1962 was the first man in space.
During his 89 minute orbit he radioed "I don't see any God up here."

On April 12, 1961, Gagarin became the first human to travel into space in Vostok 3KA-2 (Vostok 1). His call sign in this flight was Cedar (Russian: Кедр). According to international media, from orbit Gagarin made the comment, "I don't see any god up here." There are, however, no such words in the full verbatim record of Gagarin's conversations with the Earth during the spaceflight [1].

Yuri Gagarin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

interesting.......NOT!

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...541283,00.html

Thank you for the that gospel according to the Eliminator.

"You'll never win, no matter what side you are on."

Originally Posted by kerux

Thank you for the that gospel according to the Eliminator.

"You'll never win, no matter what side you are on."

Eliminator is correct. So why don't you ask yourself why you are such a failure. You fail to convince anyone here or on ajarn of your beliefs. Why don't you ask your self why you are such a failure? What answer do you give?

"So why don't you ask yourself why you are such a failure."

The same reason I don't ask myself why I'm a durian.

Durian don't place people on their Ignore Lists.

^ whats that post all about? I didnt see Durian post! on this thread