Thread: koran, allah, and all things islam

The law in Iran says that the age of consent in about 15. However this doesn't seem to be enforced as I cannot find any incidents where a man has been jailed for under aged sex in Iran. This would involve actually going against the deeds of Mo ham head, which would be a critism of the prophet. Strictly taboo.

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

Hamas.
Here's your starter for 10 Iran Politics Club: Islamic Pedophile Weddings, Hamas Style! (Photo Album) – Ahreeman X More later.

actually, it's a non-starter.

taken from your link:

The only good Hezbollah is a Dead Hezbollah.
The only way to Reform Islam is to end the Reign of Islam.
The only method to cherish Quran is to burn it down to ashes!
Not to worry, Allah is forgiving, merciful and passionate!
Dr. X

you're going to have to a lot better than dr. x.

in case you've forgotten...but you didn't, did you?......all the al keda recruits were asked to produce a muslim organization or govt. that backs up keda's claim..

Originally Posted by keda

Islam today agrees on 9 as the minimum age for vaginal sex

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

The law in Iran says that the age of consent in about 15.

once again...no link.

however, let's pretend for a moment that it is true...IMO it's far too young if the 15 year in question is with someone who is 18, 19, or 20.

in s. america (which is predominantly christian) many countries have the age of consent at 14.

in s. korea and spain, it's 13.

care to comment on that?

Age of consent

Originally Posted by the dogcatcher

However this doesn't seem to be enforced as I cannot find any incidents where a man has been jailed for under aged sex in Iran.

really?

you can't find any "essays" posted on the internet by an ex-muslim?

dr. x doesn't have anything to add on this?

Quite an interesting article here about Irans leading womens magazine-

Ms. Magazine | Iran’s Quiet Revolution

Ok so the link is anti mus site.
But clearly it's 450 men marrying 450 9 year old girls under the watchfull eyes of Hamas.
No I can't find any incidents of a man being jailed in Iran for sex with a under aged girl.
Yes 13 is too young in Spain, I wouldn't like to test that law though.
See if you can find some links to support what you are saying.
Find an Iranian that is in prison for under aged sex in Iran. There are plenty in the christian countries, I am not counting the UK as christian any more.

Originally Posted by keda

Dogs are unclean, to Islam.

Ignorance or lack of education? You tell me keda, please. Now here's a simple question for you to answer, "do you disagree that dogs are unclean in general regardless of what Islam says?". For a while, if that helps your mind to function properly, think of me as a sodding anti Mohammed chap.

Originally Posted by sabang

Quite an interesting article here about Irans leading womens magazine-

Ms. Magazine | Iran’s Quiet Revolution

'Nevertheless, technology is giving women a platform: Many of the 70,000-plus Persian-language blogs are run by women, some by home-makers who find themselves, for the first time, with a public voice'

The only hope for Islam reforming and becoming anywhere near compatible with civilised nations is in the women. They will start questioning their oppressed roles more and more, especially with regard to marriage, rape and adultery. And no Ray, no fvcking link for it-just my opinion.

Originally Posted by crazy dog

Originally Posted by sabang

Quite an interesting article here about Irans leading womens magazine-

Ms. Magazine | Iran’s Quiet Revolution

'Nevertheless, technology is giving women a platform: Many of the 70,000-plus Persian-language blogs are run by women, some by home-makers who find themselves, for the first time, with a public voice'

The only hope for Islam reforming and becoming anywhere near compatible with civilised nations is in the women. They will start questioning their oppressed roles more and more, especially with regard to marriage, rape and adultery. And no Ray, no fvcking link for it-just my opinion.

Agreed. It was a major contributor in N Ireland.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by keda

You fabricated, or you conveniently imagined what wasn't so.

Spew away, but it's the same thing.

No I didn't keda, and this thread stands testament to that. It's littered with your disingenuity and personal attacks.

You are - and not for the first time - simply incapable of admitting when you're wrong (much less apologising) so are attempting to muddy the waters with your continued dishonesty and shifting of the posts. Methinks you doth protest too much.

That's flattery coming from the master of personal attacks.

That's weak, coming from you who has done nothing but in this thread. A thread that you falsely presented as being about debate and discussion when quite clearly you were only ever looking for agreement from others on your preconceived notions.

You falsely claimed something that was not true and could not have been true since my response simply would not have fitted with it. My measured response was that you either fabricated or conveniently imagined what wasn't so. You deny both. In that case you lied, deliberately and knowing the posts and therefore the evidence was deleted, hoping to gain sympathy or support from your followers by accusing me of joining in on an attack upon your family. Once in the corner, you backed off with a cowardly retraction and watered down your baseless accusation.

Time to take the gloves off and not be so effing nice, you lying cnut, and this is not the first time you've lied either. Hey, getting personal am I? You ain't seen nothing yet.

False claims, twisting what people post and trying to trap people into family comments are all tactics of Mr Ant the time waster, I think the only option to deal with him is the ignore function as he is such an extreme pest and idiot.

Originally Posted by keda

...Time to take the gloves off and not be so effing nice, you lying cnut, and this is not the first time you've lied either. Hey, getting personal am I? You ain't seen nothing yet.

...

So let me get this straight: instead of responding to perfectly reasonable posts with a bunch of juvenile, nonsensical name-calling and disingenuity as you have been doing all along in this thread, you're instead going to respond to perfectly reasonable posts with a bunch of juvenile, nonsensical name-calling and disingenuity. No more Mr. Nice keda huh.

Wipe your chin keda, you're dribbling again.

You falsely claimed something that was not true and could not have been true since my response simply would not have fitted with it. My measured response was that you either fabricated or conveniently imagined what wasn't so. You deny both. In that case you lied, deliberately and knowing the posts and therefore the evidence was deleted, hoping to gain sympathy or support from your followers by accusing me of joining in on an attack upon your family. Once in the corner, you backed off with a cowardly retraction and watered down your baseless accusation.

And meanwhile, back here in reality, none of that actually occured as you're claiming it did. The usual keda tactic of distortion, misrepresentation and then frothing churlish fits of spittle-flecked anger.

This is the perfect illustration of muslim tolerance.

11/02/2006: Muslims demonstrate outside swiss parliament in Bern. They require a restriction of freedom of expression "in deference to Muslims" (after the cartoon affair in Denmark)

Now, tell me in which muslim "democratic" country christians would be allowed to do the same.

I wonder why the swiss people accepted the anti-minarets initiative.

again, why should we act like the monkeys who usually enjoy throwing feces to each other ?

aren't our values based on tolerance and differences ? even when they are dangerous ?

^ It's absolutely not acting as them. We are part of countries who promote freedom of expression.

When strangers come in my house and want to refrain this right I have to react and say NO. Strangers asking for restriction of freedom of expression are just welcomed on the next flight back home.

In the muslim dictatoriships you're gunned for such a request.

Originally Posted by Wallalai

It's absolutely not acting as them. We are part of countries who promote freedom of expression.

When strangers come in my house and want to refrain this right I have to react and say NO. Strangers asking for restriction of freedom of expression are just welcomed on the next flight back home.

the analogy is not correct, it's more like you are a guest and the host is making fun of you in a nasty way in front of all the other guests. It's insulting.

How would you react ?

^ not for you to make that call. Obviously your government made that call for you and is accepting muslims to practice their religions freely, no matter how backward they are. As long as they are not making animal sacrifice or torturing followers, I really don't see the problem.

The only way you could stop having Mosque everywhere would be to claim some kind of urban management problem, that is not fit with the rest of the cultural architecture.

^ The anti-minaret initiative was not a claim from the government. It was launched by the UDC political party (100'000 signature required). Do you know what you're talking about ?

Switzerland has come in a poll - Democratic formula if any - to refuse the construction of new minarets and sees today call for tolerance by the Islamic Fiqh Academy (IFA) of Jeddah, an outgrowth of Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC). The Saudi National Association of Human Rights (NHRA) also expressed its disapproval and asked the Confederation of complying with Article 18 of the International Declaration of Human Rights. Coming from a country that denies the practice itself as deprived of any other religion on its soil, the lesson of tolerance is an expert!

[....] A choice of nationality or religion, 81% of British Muslims opt for the second.

La France devrait occuper un siège à l'OCI, par Pierre Conesa - LeMonde.fr

Sorry if you cannot read french.

Man charged with murder in 'honor killing'

An Iraqi immigrant accused of slaying his daughter in an "honor killing" has been charged with first-degree murder and could face the death penalty, Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas said Monday.

Faleh Hassan Almaleki, 48, of Glendale, is accused of using his Jeep Cherokee to run over his daughter, 20-year-old Noor Almaleki, and another woman in a Peoria parking lot on Oct. 20. His daughter died of her injuries.

Almaleki was reportedly furious with his daughter for becoming "too Westernized," police said.

Prosecutors have labeled Noor Almaleki's death an "honor killing," saying the elder Almaleki killed his daughter because she dishonored the family by not following traditional Iraqi or Muslim values.

She reportedly married a man in Iraq and returned to Arizona to live with a boyfriend and his mother in Surprise.

Thomas announced Almaleki was also being charged with attempted first-degree murder in the attack on his daughter's friend, Amal Khalaf, 43. Khalaf is the boyfriend's mother and is expected to recover from her injuries, police said.

Almaleki was charged with two additional felony counts for leaving the scene of a serious injury accident.

Thomas said his office is still determining whether to seek the death penalty for Almaleki. He called the case "tragic," saying the county will prosecute Almaleki to the full extent.

At Almaleki's initial court appearance on Oct. 31, county prosecutor Stephanie Low said he admitted deliberately running down his daughter.

"By his own admission, this was an intentional act, and the reason was that his daughter had brought shame on him and his family," Low said. "This was an attempt at an honor killing."

Almaleki was a fugitive for about a week, fleeing for Mexico and later taking a plane to London, investigators said.

He was detained by British authorities and extradited.


Man charged with murder in 'honor killing'

Must be some mistake, surely, since we are constantly urged to believe there is no such thing as an honour killing; Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, and condemns murder. Could be this guy is just another tragic misunderstander of his own religion.

Hope the trash gets what's due and is despatched sooner rather than later to Paradise for murdering his daughter and attempting to murder her friend.

Rat probably thought he could mingle safely in Londonistan, but thankfully not all Brits are dhimmis, just yet.

Pakistan Muslim Extremists Kill Christian; Injure Evangelists

SARGODHA, PAKISTAN (Worthy News)-- Christians on Tuesday, December 22, were mourning a Christian man who was shot dead by Muslim extremists while other believers recovered from injuries after an apparent Muslim attack on an evangelistic meeting showing the Jesus Film in Pakistan's tense Punjab province.

Patras Masih was shot because he refused to recant his faith in Christ, and died from gunshot wounds on December 3 in Karol village, his family said.

Local said Masih had received an ultimatum after being falsely accused of killing a Muslim, identified as Anees Mahammad.

He was told he would not be killed if he abandoned Christianity and "embrace Islam."

However, "My son bravely refused to recant Christianity and clung to Christ," said the man's father, Gulzar Masih, his voice trembling. After his son refused to recite the Islamic conversion creed, three Muslims known locally sprayed bullets at his chest, killing him instantly, Masih said.


Worthy Christian News Pakistan Muslim Extremists Kill Christian; Injure Evangelists

Just another bunch of Islamic misunderstanders.

About time for Islam to start preaching it is synonymous with peace and tolerance of other religions.

Originally Posted by keda

Worthy Christian News

worthy christian news?

never heard of it before, so i took a look at their website....


Worthy News is becoming a Christian News Agency reporting on key developments in a rapidly changing world, with Christian news angles not covered by other outlets, and related stories impacting the Church.

thanks for the green, Wallalai, you are such a swisstard

"Enculé, je chie sur le Coran et sur ta tronche de pédé."

Since when did you become an angry racist ala BlackGang ?

Originally Posted by Wallalai

^ The anti-minaret initiative was not a claim from the government. It was launched by the UDC political party (100'000 signature required). Do you know what you're talking about ?

you silly Swiss Cheese idiot, I was referring to your government accepting Muslims in your fucking little shithole country. You claim they shouldn't be accepted. It's not your call to make, and apparently the Swiss government think they should deserve a space in Swisstardland.

OwnED again Gruyere tard !!!

for you Wallalai:

"Je te pisse dans la raie du cul connard"

Pakistan court orders ears and noses to be cut off

A Pakistani court has ordered that two men have their ears and noses cut off, as punishment for doing the same to a woman who refused to marry one of them.

The two brothers were found guilty of kidnapping 20-year-old Fazeelat Bibi, one of their cousins, in September.

The judge in Lahore also sentenced them to life in prison.

Sentence was passed on Monday under a rarely invoked Islamic law dating from the 1980s. In the past similar sentences have been revoked on appeal.

'Eye for an eye'

Government prosecutor Ehtisham Qadir said the punishment had been awarded in accordance with the Islamic principle of "an eye for an eye".

Sher Mohammad and Amanat abducted Fazeelat Bibi as she returned home from work at a brick kiln in the Raiwind area of Lahore, the court heard.

"They put a noose around her neck, and then cut off her ears and nose," Mr Qadir told the BBC.

Three alleged accomplices are still being sought by police.

The crime was committed after Fazeelat Bibi's parents refused to give her hand in marriage to Sher Mohammad, Mr Qadir said.

Islamic laws were introduced in Pakistan during the military regime of General Ziaul Haq in the 1980s.

The BBC's M Ilyas Khan in Islamabad says punishments prescribed under the laws have rarely been awarded, and never carried out.

Pakistani human rights activists have long campaigned for more to be done to stop attacks against women, which often include facial disfigurement.

However, they also disagree with the type of punishment handed out in Lahore, correspondents say.

BBC News - Pakistan court orders ears and noses to be cut off


A fabulous Topol line in Fiddler on the Roof: An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, will leave the world blind and toothless.

One wonders which is worse, what they did to their cousin or the eye for an eye part of the Sharia award. Since that part of the sentence is unlikely to be carried out, anyone have a clue if it may be because their victim was a woman, or leniency or squeamishness on the part of the court?

Had they murdered their cousin for refusing to marry one of them, should the Islamic principle of an eye for an eye be invoked, or is this too barbaric?

Let's hope they catch up with the accomplices and give them what for, too.


Where are our staunch feminazis? Why do they leave it to impotent human rights activists to campaign for basic human rights for women under Islam, such as the right not to be disfigured?