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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit
    Fuck their cultural sensitivities, they chose to live in the UK
    Yep, they chose to live there but your home office gave them the right to stay indefinitely. Stop moaning, will ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit
    they chose to live in the UK
    Yep, they chose to live there but your home office gave them the right to stay indefinitely. Stop moaning, will ya?
    Yes you are quite correct they were given the right to stay, that is not the point I'm taking issue with.

    As I said before, they were not given the right to break UK laws or disrespect UK courts.

    This is an important issue because it sets precedents, which is all part of their gradual erosion and undermining of UK law and society.

    To simply say" Stop moaning will ya" and allow this to contiue is to give a free rein to these people to continue in this manner and for us to continue to allow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant
    Maybe you guys are simply ot answering in a way that keda finds acceptable?
    He's looking for an answer that suits his idiotic agenda. Alas! He ain't gettin one.

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    Any chance of some summaries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    ^427^
    Any chance of some summaries?
    No. A summary of three pages of text, are you serious? Do you consider 3 pages of text a reading challenge? Is that what you do when doing your "research" on the "evils" of Islam? Summaries? You're able to call a large part of the word's population evil based on what? Summaries? Are you saying that you haven't done any real reading or research to back up any of your claims about Islam?

    If you're incapable of reading anything other than a "summary" where do you get the gall to believe that your opinions are worth taking seriously by anybody else?
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    When it becomes compulsory to read everything everyone posts, do let me know and I'll decide if I wish to comply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    When it becomes compulsory to read everything everyone posts, do let me know and I'll decide if I wish to comply.
    Well if you're going to be making informed comment, it may not be compulsory but surely it's requisite.


    Oh wait, yeah I see what you're saying. Carry on regardless then, as you were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    When it becomes compulsory to read everything everyone posts, do let me know and I'll decide if I wish to comply.
    Don't know about compulsory but if you have any pretensions to discussing or debating it is pretty essential to know what the others are saying. You do, after all, whinge on a number of threads about wanting debate and discussion. Oddly enough, when you get it you ignore it.

    It's good that you admit that all you do is post cut'n'pastes of other people's writing and completely ignore anything that doesn't validate your opinion. That's what I thought you did but it's nice to see you finally bring it out into the open, "γνῶθι σεαυτόν" and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    When it becomes compulsory to read everything everyone posts, do let me know and I'll decide if I wish to comply.
    Wow. Just wow.

    Even the members posting in the political threads generally take the time to read links provided and sometimes refute them, they don't start begging for Cliff notes. I have never seen anyone use the tl;dr excuse in serious discussion though.

    Jeebus al keda, is that the best you have? It seems like you aren't even trying, you just want to post up some scurrilous rubbish and have it accepted as gospel ( ) by everybody here?
    bibo ergo sum
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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
    Jeebus al keda, is that the best you have? It seems like you aren't even trying, you just want to post up some scurrilous rubbish and have it accepted as gospel ( ) by everybody here?
    Hi, you must be new here. Welcome to TD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
    Jeebus al keda, is that the best you have? It seems like you aren't even trying, you just want to post up some scurrilous rubbish and have it accepted as gospel ( ) by everybody here?
    Hi, you must be new here. Welcome to TD!
    thanks, but it is pretty depressing to see people post up garbage like he does and then reject anything refuting it because it is simply too difficult to read or comprehend.

    I don't use the ignore function much (well, except for you, but *everybody* does that right? ) , but I really can't see that there is any point responding to the drivel that al keda throws out; he can't even back it up himself FFS! All his posts and claims are comprehensively disproved and he responds with frothing at the mouth, ad hominem, or moving the goalposts.

    What a hopeless muppet, I hope he feels safe under his undisclosed bed with his blankie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
    All his posts and claims are comprehensively disproved and he responds with frothing at the mouth, ad hominem, or moving the goalposts.
    You may be new here but you're certainly a quick learner!
    I don't use the ignore function much (well, except for you, but *everybody* does that right? )
    Newb!

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    Prophet Muhammad would have loved Star Trek. Muhammad would have admired Captain Kirk for the same reasons that Muhammad's followers admired him. Muhammad was a social reformer in 7th century Arabia, and Captain Kirk was a social reformer in space. Oh, Captain Kirk was supposed to be following the Prime Directive, but he managed significant social reform on all those planets. He once stopped centuries of warfare by showing that computerized brutality was still brutality. Human beings are barbaric, he said, but we can wake up every morning and say to ourselves, 'You know, I don't think I'll kill anyone today. Not today.'"

    Like Captain Kirk, Muhammad reformed society by limiting violence. He outlawed all forms of warfare except the jihad, which is the use of force in self-defense to overthrow an oppressor.
    I think she got Captain Kirk mixed up with this guy.



    All forms of warfare are allowed, as long as it serves islam !
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    It’s wonderful that Roqaya al-Ghassra participated in the Olympic games dressed as she was, because the hijab is a choice, and it’s not about “religious dress” or oppression. It’s a decision about modesty, the same as wearing long sleeves instead of short or a high neckline instead of a plunging one. Her choice is not the same as mine – but it doesn’t have to be under Islam.
    "Hijab is a choice"
    Did she ever have a choice ? Growing up in a strict muslim family in a country under sharia law ?
    A bright example for all future generations in track and freak.... aahemm field. Sorry.



    Choice my ass:

    The 20-year-old Ethiopian who represents Bahrain has raised the ire of a leading politician in the Gulf State for wearing a short sleeveless top and shorts.

    Pictures of her wearing the outfit when winning the 3,000m at the Golden League meeting in Oslo last week have caused outrage in Bahrain. That performance installed Jamal as the favourite for the 1500m here in Holmes' absence.

    Hamad Al Mohannadi, the chairman of Bahrain's parliamentary legislative committee, said: "We were all shocked by the look of the young woman . . . the outfit is not in any way related with the normal clothes Bahraini young women are accustomed to wearing."

    Bahrain wanted to promote sport but within the "perimeters" of Islam. "It is disrespecting Islamic precepts and offending local values. We should not allow the good name of Bahrain to be abused," Al Mohannadi said. "The athlete should also be made aware of the indecency of her outfit."

    Last year Bahrain's Ruqaya Al Ghasra ran the 100m at the Olympics with her legs and arms covered.

    Congrat. Miss Al Ghasra, you had a CHOICE and remind me of those stooges of the Führer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    It’s wonderful that Roqaya al-Ghassra participated in the Olympic games dressed as she was, because the hijab is a choice, and it’s not about “religious dress” or oppression. It’s a decision about modesty, the same as wearing long sleeves instead of short or a high neckline instead of a plunging one. Her choice is not the same as mine – but it doesn’t have to be under Islam.
    "Hijab is a choice"
    Did she ever have a choice ? Growing up in a strict muslim family in a country under sharia law ?
    A bright example for all future generations in track and freak.... aahemm field. Sorry.



    Choice my ass:

    The 20-year-old Ethiopian who represents Bahrain has raised the ire of a leading politician in the Gulf State for wearing a short sleeveless top and shorts.

    Pictures of her wearing the outfit when winning the 3,000m at the Golden League meeting in Oslo last week have caused outrage in Bahrain. That performance installed Jamal as the favourite for the 1500m here in Holmes' absence.

    Hamad Al Mohannadi, the chairman of Bahrain's parliamentary legislative committee, said: "We were all shocked by the look of the young woman . . . the outfit is not in any way related with the normal clothes Bahraini young women are accustomed to wearing."

    Bahrain wanted to promote sport but within the "perimeters" of Islam. "It is disrespecting Islamic precepts and offending local values. We should not allow the good name of Bahrain to be abused," Al Mohannadi said. "The athlete should also be made aware of the indecency of her outfit."

    Last year Bahrain's Ruqaya Al Ghasra ran the 100m at the Olympics with her legs and arms covered.

    Congrat. Miss Al Ghasra, you had a CHOICE and remind me of those stooges of the Führer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slackula View Post
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    When it becomes compulsory to read everything everyone posts, do let me know and I'll decide if I wish to comply.
    Wow. Just wow.

    Even the members posting in the political threads generally take the time to read links provided and sometimes refute them, they don't start begging for Cliff notes. I have never seen anyone use the tl;dr excuse in serious discussion though.
    Dude, that was like three pages. Three whole pages!

    I don't think keda is looking for debate. He feels he has found the truth and wishes with the best of intentions that we could all see the light. This would serve as reinforcement for an idea he has married and can't possibly step away from at this point without entirely upending his world view, which is something few people do willingly no matter how bad the cognitive dissonance, which I think in his case hasn't even begun to have an effect and maybe never shall. Facts are stupid things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdigit
    they were not given the right to break UK laws or disrespect UK courts
    If they have broken UK laws or disrespected UK courts chuck them back to mussie-estan and make an example out of them, end of story.

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    Macha, tell me this poor little girl is happy.

    And what about the emote ? Showing your ass will not give more freedom for the womens living under islamic dictatorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai View Post
    Macha, tell me this poor little girl is happy.

    And what about the emote ? Showing your ass will not give more freedom for the womens living under islamic dictatorship.
    Sure she's happy and sees whatever happens to her as perfectly normal. She knows no better, so when she's married or sold off to look after the needs of some old guy that beats her when the mood strikes (sic), this too is normal.

    Having been weaned on Islam this is what she believes her life should be, and as a mother this is what she'll breed into her own children to perpetuate the repressive ideology.

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    She might / might not be happy, I don't know. Are those underage tarts walking the streets of Amsterdam happy? You want me to upload their photos so you can guess if they are happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    She might / might not be happy, I don't know. Are those underage tarts walking the streets of Amsterdam happy?
    guess so
    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    You want me to upload their photos so you can guess if they are happy?
    Yes please !

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    Wallali, do you think it's possible to judge (from a photograph) if she's happy or not? I have recently spoken to an eleven year old girl at a workshop who against the advise of her mother and father has chosen to wear hijab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Wallali, do you think it's possible to judge (from a photograph) if she's happy or not? I have recently spoken to an eleven year old girl at a workshop who against the advise of her mother and father has chosen to wear hijab.
    I guess she want her parents to get a good price/value.

    Are those underage tarts walking the streets of Amsterdam happy?
    Is this a criminal act or a western religious tradition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Wallali, do you think it's possible to judge (from a photograph) if she's happy or not? I have recently spoken to an eleven year old girl at a workshop who against the advise of her mother and father has chosen to wear hijab.

    Aren't you and your nephew the same guys that said it was your "right" to control the women in your families? Archaic thinking as it is an archaic religion.

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    The most striking thing one notices when reading the Koran, I've a couple of English translations, is that Christianities Lake of Fire is also a key element of Islam and a much quoted source by skillless journalists to prove Islam's inherent evil. Jesus is a reverred prophet and the most famous of angels Gabriel is back in the Koran as Jibreal(s.p) The three great monotheistic faiths differ in ideological ways but damning one of the "trilogy" if you will. As the manual to the religion of hate while treating another as your guiding scripture and the meaning if to your life. You are a very ignorant parishoner.
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