No I didn't.Originally Posted by venturalaw
It seems impossible for him to speak without putting his foot in his mouth though- a prize buffoon.
This bloke is being spoken about as GOP leadership material- how do you feel about that?

Fek, that's nothin. Obama, the "green man", spent how many thousands of gallons of gas flying Air Force One to some whipped up windmill joint of GE (the company that'll get a whole bunch a money from BO's green plan). I'm sure he coulda gone out and done a speech in front of Michelle's pre-made garden. Only cost him and the country a few fewsteps of his own energy with no exhaust fumes unless he farted along the way.
Exemplifies what makes America great? Are you serious? A hypocritical (his use of drugs) comedian/entertainer spewing vile comments about people who do not agree with his point of view to a bunch of lemmings/ditto heads. He is an embarrassment. But go ahead,…..hold him high in that dwindling GOP and you’ll see even more people leave the conservative party.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
I was refering to his financial success. He did not rely upon some liberal to come along to "spread the wealth" at the same time said liberal systematically dismantles America's defenses. He is self-made. You appear, as do most liberals, to hate those who have financial success through achievment. You wish to punish achievers and reward those who accomplish less. It's truly backwards thinking and has failed in every venue where it's been attempted.
^Just keep it up,….follow Rush down that dead end street.
From a right-wing site (hotair), I follow:
There is a warning sign for the GOP in the new poll: 21 percent of those surveyed said they identify as Republicans, the fewest to do so in a Post-ABC poll in more than 25 years. Last fall, Democrats outnumbered Republicans at the polls by the biggest margin in network exit polls going back to the 1982 midterms.
Link: http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=38157
About your last remark to me,……….and Rush’s financial success. He is still an embarrassment to a lot of Americans. The way he has made his money by preying on the fears of others is horrible.
And then you went wacko with the rest of your comment to me,…………
“You appear, as do most liberals, to hate those who have financial success through achievment. You wish to punish achievers and reward those who accomplish less. It's truly backwards thinking and has failed in every venue where it's been attempted.”
Where the heck did that come from?

^ hehe. Easy for ACORN to sign up new Dems from the poor neighbourhoods -- they pay them and then promise free healthcare, schooling, welfare. Easy. Look what happened to California -- biiggest Dem state with the biggest fekin deficit. Just heard a CA senator say his colleagues had a meeting in Reno t odiscuss the exodus of biz from CA. Funny, huh. Reno ain't even in CA.
OMG, have you never watched Olbermann and the dyke Maddow on MSNBC? That's pure vitriole against Conservatives spewing from their gobs. And their ratings sink continually lower, unlike those of Rush and Fox opinion anchors.
US 'defence' spending definitely needs to be cut given the financial situation the country is in now, this is a topic of it's own. But Obama has not cut or frozen the Pentagon budget, paradoxically.Originally Posted by venturalaw
If that is your defining mark of a liberal, I don't think you'll find too many here. He is a succesful radio talk show host, and his market value as such is predicated on the audience he attracts, and the advertising revenue thus generated. I don't mind his financial success, no more than I mind Howard Sterns financial success.Originally Posted by venturalaw
Where it goes awry though is when this host of a, lets face it, low brow political talk show is spoken about as the voice of, or even the future leadership of the GOP. To many traditional Republican or swinging voters that is indicative of the intellectual vaccuum that exists on the right.
It is symptomatic of a wider malaise- the GOP is losing much of it's traditional conservative support base- it is now a populist Right wing party, mainly. It still retains a strong mandate in the socially Conservative, mainly southern and poorer states. Thats a guaranteed minority of the electorate.
Limbaughs stock in trade is controversy, banter and audience ratings- not policy making and politics. I've mentioned before, I don't expect much from a DJ- a bit of controversy is good for ratings as we all know. But I don't expect the Chairman of the GOP to have to apologise to a DJ for describing him as an entertainer- he is an entertainer.
Really, I don't give a toss what Limbaugh says, no more than I give a toss what Howard Stern says. In their own way they are good at their job- which ultimately is to attract advertising revenue via ratings. Limbaugh should stick to that, and stop eroding his beloved party from within.
Easy for the GOP to sign up angry, disgruntled southern white males. What should concern you is that professionals and the middle class are increasingly being alienated from the Republican party.Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ Oh, really? Then why is BO's approval rating falling? And how is the approval rating for the libbie Congress and Pelosi and Reid doing these days?
BO's approval rating is unusually high Jet, as has been pointed out to you. Even if you use Rasmussens figures (as you generally do)- which are always skewed more towards the GOP than the other major polling organisations.
So there!
Higher than it's been for six years last time I looked, but still not impressive.libbie Congress and Pelosi and Reid doing these days?
Honestly, if you fail to recognise as a loyal Republican that the GOP is eroding an important part of it's traditional mandate you are putting your head in the sand.

^ Huh? BO's approval rate has fallen to somewhere in the 50s, no? Down from 61% or so in Jan. Don't worry, it will fall further and faster with a bit of time.![]()
When we look only at presidents in the past 40 years, Obama is near the top. His approval is 7-10 points higher than the approvals of the last three presidents. Since Nixon, in fact, only Reagan's 68% is higher than Obama's current approval rating
Obama at 100 days: His approval rating - First Read - msnbc.com
^ That was written on Friday.![]()
But frankly, all this emphasis on approval ratings is pointless at this stage. If the economy tanks in spite of the bailout, you can bet Obamas approval ratings will plummet like a stone. That remains to be seen, but the stock market- an important leading indicator- has recovered some.
As they have made quite clear, the hard core Republicans want the economy to fail- I suppose because it is their best chance to get back into power. It is however a blatant example of placing partisan political interests before the interests of one's country.

^ Only the GOP has partisan interests? That is rich, SB, and you know it.
As for the opinion poll, I ain't even gonna look at it coz it's from MSNBC. If it's a Pew or Ras poll, then I might show interest.
^ Ok, I'll do your work for you. It's a Gallup.

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it's a gallup poll, dearie.Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
anyway....
wanda sykes at tonight's white house correspondent's dinner.....
Sykes slams Rush: '20th hijacker' - Patrick Gavin - POLITICO.comRush Limbaugh said this administration fails. ... He just wants the country to fail. To me that's treason. He's not saying anything different than what Osama Bin Laden is saying. You might want to look into this, sir, because I think Rush Limbaugh was the 20th hijacker but he was just so strung out on Oxycontin he missed his flight. ... Rush Limbaugh, I hope the country fails, I hope his kidneys fail, how about that? He needs a good waterboarding, that's what he needs."
reminds me of a few posters here on TD.....posting about secession (which, btw, is treason) and the assasination of the president.

Limbaugh is a fat retard
Rush preaches to the choir ..
no one listens to the fat idiot that does not have parallel beliefs.
both fox & rush are supported by those with strong beliefs who are generally against any verifiable facts coming into any discussion
I know you guys (the people in general on this topic) pride yourselves on being ignorant when it comes to Limbaugh. To quote a famous American: Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
You guys guys (the people in general on this topic) didn't get it because you never listen to Limbaugh so you don't understand his shtick. He was being facetious. The fact that you don't listen means you couldn't get the tone of what he said and that you can't get the tone of his show. He was lampooning the left's whinging about Bush and the terrorists, the way that Bush can do no right, everything Bush does is wrong and he has always captured the wrong guys. The people at GITMO are all innocents caught in the gargantuan robotic trawling net of the evil US Army.
You guys do know you sound anti-intellectual don't you? I mean when you take pride in not listening to Limbaugh yet still knowing he is a stupid "retard".
He stressed, "Black", "Muslim", "teenagers", because according to the left, blacks and Muslims get a raw deal by America. So Limbaugh is saying your hero Obama just ordered the death of Black Muslims and they were children to boot! A triple whammy on Obama!
If you didn't take so much pride in your ignorance you'd know that. Who are you listening to? Who is irresponsibly reporting these events? They should be ashamed if they are reporters and journalists. Or do you get your marching orders from bloggers? something you ridicule others of doing.
Any argument involving Rush Limbaugh, well the word 'Intellectual' just doesn't feature. His buffoonery, even his frequent gaffes are a large part of his audience appeal, granted. I suppose he addresses in a lowbrow, populist folksy kind of way 'Heartland' concerns- if I may paint with a broad brush.Originally Posted by attaboy
So I think it's fair to say that to a large extent his style and audience appeal leaves him wide open to being Lampooned- although Limbaugh himself is probably laughing all the way to the bank. Hey, seeing as the Right wing lowbrow set such as Coulter and Limbaugh are frequent lampooners themselves, surely you can't argue that it is in some way illegitimate to lampoon them? Believe me, they are very easy targets.
The only respect in which it goes beyond a joke, I respectfully submit, is when a populist radio talk show host, noted for his frequent blunders and gaffes, is spoken of as some sort of mouthpiece for the Republican party. To the point where the actual Chairman of the GOP, Steele, had to actually apologise to him for calling him an entertainer!
It is symptomatic of something that we all know- the GOP is in a Right (pun intended) mess at the moment.![]()
Originally Posted by attaboy
I couldn't resist and I thought you'd get a kick out of it.Originally Posted by sabang
Here is what Limbaugh had to say about Steele's comments on the DL Hughely show on CNN:
Limbaugh: My parents taught me when I was growing up that you always stood behind people who defended you, you never abandoned people who stood up for you and who defended you against assault. Michael Steele was a candidate for the Senate in Maryland. Michael Steele was on this program, he got airtime on this program to attempt to refute the lies being told about him by Michael J. Fox in those famous ads way back when that were also run against Jim Talent in Missouri. I personally took time to defend Michael Steele and to rip the substance of those ads, had him on the show. I went after Chuck Schumer when Chuck Schumer's former employee stole Michael Steele's private credit record information and released it. When I went to Washington a couple years ago for a personal appearance from my station there, WMAL, WMAL arranged for a number of dignitaries to meet me backstage. One of them was Michael Steele, who thanked me very much for coming to his defense. Something's happened. Now I'm just an entertainer and now I am ugly and my program is incendiary.
He reminded Steele what he, Limbaugh, has done for him. He even had Steele guest host his three-hour show while he was on vacation. Three hours of free airtime to promote yourself on a show which has 20 million listeners. More than once. That's a gigantic favor. I think Limbaugh was right in expressing his disappointment. No wonder Steele felt a need to backtrack and say he "was maybe a little bit inarticulate.", because he was inarticulate in the way he handled being on a show where he allowed himself to be goaded into bad-mouthing a man who worked his ass of to get him elected to the Maryland Senate. Whether you like Limbaugh or not, Steele should remember who his friends are.
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