Thread: War on Terrorism

^^Patton was a nut job.

Hence his 'accident' in Germany.

Originally Posted by Covertjay

^^Patton was a nut job.

Hence his 'accident' in Germany.

Yeah, but he was a better General than 'Monty' who was a piss-poor tactician. That's why Eisenhower relieved him of his command and put Patton in...

50% Of Americans Are Apparently Unaware 500 WMDs Have Been Found

Over at the Washington Times, they have a very strange take on the latest Harris poll:

Half of Americans now say Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when the United States invaded the country in 2003 -- up from 36 percent last year, a Harris poll finds. Pollsters deemed the increase both "substantial" and "surprising" in light of persistent press reports to the contrary in recent years.
The survey did not speculate on what caused the shift in opinion, which supports President Bush's original rationale for going to war. Respondents were questioned in early July after the release of a Defense Department intelligence report that revealed coalition forces recovered 500 aging chemical weapons containing mustard or sarin gas nerve agents in Iraq.
"Filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist," said Sen. Rick Santorum, Pennsylvania Republican, during a June 21 press conference detailing the newly declassified information.
Rep. Peter Hoekstra, chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, who shared the podium, said, "Iraq was not a WMD-free zone."

It's really starting to be no surprise ... now is it ?

Britain's cultural cowardice

Britain's loss of nerve is one of the main reasons it has become a global centre of Islamic extremism. For decades, successive British governments have regarded multiculturalism as an article of faith. The idea that Britain should become a joyous melting pot of different cultures and religions living side by side in mutual toleration and respect is a noble vision. But it's not working out that way. Instead, the benefits of immigration are being lost through a failure to control numbers and a reluctance to pursue policies that might promote integration. As a result, Britain has a huge Muslim population, much of which is increasingly alienated from mainstream society. "Londonistan" is no longer just a safe haven for foreign extremists. Today, it nurtures home-grown terrorists, many born in Britain, educated at British schools and attending British universities.

The July 7 bombers were British. So was Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. Zacarias Moussaoui, convicted for his role in the 9/11 attacks, was a student in London. Some of those arrested last week converted to Islam in the past year. That suggests the problem is escalating.... why do young Muslims embrace terrorism rather than democratic politics? How can people born and educated in Britain feel so alienated from its culture and values? The snag is that many never fully engage with British culture and values. Muslims make up the majority in many towns and in most big cities there are large Muslim enclaves. Even if the multiculturalists were to change their minds on the need for integration, it would be too late. Muslim leaders are demanding more separation from mainstream society, not less.

They want bank holidays for Muslim festivals and sharia law courts to rule on family matters. They may well get it. They are helped by the remarkable ambivalence of the liberal Left towards British culture and values: to Christianity, British history, free markets and free trade. Above all, the Left is deeply suspicious of the institutions in which those values are embedded, starting with the family and extending via churches, schools, businesses, clubs, right through to parliament and the monarchy. To the Left, Britain's social institutions are bastions of privilege that must be remodelled or destroyed to make way for multiculturalism. The resulting cultural war has left British society brutalised and infantilised, and wide open to attack. Why should British Muslims respect a culture that has no respect for itself?

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Could somebody please move this thread back to issues where it belongs ?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

It's really starting to be no surprise ... now is it ?

Britain's cultural cowardice

Britain's loss of nerve is one of the main reasons it has become a global centre of Islamic extremism. For decades, successive British governments have regarded multiculturalism as an article of faith. The idea that Britain should become a joyous melting pot of different cultures and religions living side by side in mutual toleration and respect is a noble vision. But it's not working out that way. Instead, the benefits of immigration are being lost through a failure to control numbers and a reluctance to pursue policies that might promote integration. As a result, Britain has a huge Muslim population, much of which is increasingly alienated from mainstream society. "Londonistan" is no longer just a safe haven for foreign extremists. Today, it nurtures home-grown terrorists, many born in Britain, educated at British schools and attending British universities.

The July 7 bombers were British. So was Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. Zacarias Moussaoui, convicted for his role in the 9/11 attacks, was a student in London. Some of those arrested last week converted to Islam in the past year. That suggests the problem is escalating.... why do young Muslims embrace terrorism rather than democratic politics? How can people born and educated in Britain feel so alienated from its culture and values? The snag is that many never fully engage with British culture and values. Muslims make up the majority in many towns and in most big cities there are large Muslim enclaves. Even if the multiculturalists were to change their minds on the need for integration, it would be too late. Muslim leaders are demanding more separation from mainstream society, not less.

They want bank holidays for Muslim festivals and sharia law courts to rule on family matters. They may well get it. They are helped by the remarkable ambivalence of the liberal Left towards British culture and values: to Christianity, British history, free markets and free trade. Above all, the Left is deeply suspicious of the institutions in which those values are embedded, starting with the family and extending via churches, schools, businesses, clubs, right through to parliament and the monarchy. To the Left, Britain's social institutions are bastions of privilege that must be remodelled or destroyed to make way for multiculturalism. The resulting cultural war has left British society brutalised and infantilised, and wide open to attack. Why should British Muslims respect a culture that has no respect for itself?

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It's more a case of Britain having intergrity and always attempting to do the right thing.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

It's more a case of Britain having intergrity and always attempting to do the right thing.

Guess that's what Neville Chamberlain thought too?

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

It's really starting to be no surprise ... now is it ?

Britain's cultural cowardice

Britain's loss of nerve is one of the main reasons it has become a global centre of Islamic extremism. For decades, successive British governments have regarded multiculturalism as an article of faith. The idea that Britain should become a joyous melting pot of different cultures and religions living side by side in mutual toleration and respect is a noble vision. But it's not working out that way. Instead, the benefits of immigration are being lost through a failure to control numbers and a reluctance to pursue policies that might promote integration. As a result, Britain has a huge Muslim population, much of which is increasingly alienated from mainstream society. "Londonistan" is no longer just a safe haven for foreign extremists. Today, it nurtures home-grown terrorists, many born in Britain, educated at British schools and attending British universities.

The July 7 bombers were British. So was Richard Reid, the shoe bomber. Zacarias Moussaoui, convicted for his role in the 9/11 attacks, was a student in London. Some of those arrested last week converted to Islam in the past year. That suggests the problem is escalating.... why do young Muslims embrace terrorism rather than democratic politics? How can people born and educated in Britain feel so alienated from its culture and values? The snag is that many never fully engage with British culture and values. Muslims make up the majority in many towns and in most big cities there are large Muslim enclaves. Even if the multiculturalists were to change their minds on the need for integration, it would be too late. Muslim leaders are demanding more separation from mainstream society, not less.

They want bank holidays for Muslim festivals and sharia law courts to rule on family matters. They may well get it. They are helped by the remarkable ambivalence of the liberal Left towards British culture and values: to Christianity, British history, free markets and free trade. Above all, the Left is deeply suspicious of the institutions in which those values are embedded, starting with the family and extending via churches, schools, businesses, clubs, right through to parliament and the monarchy. To the Left, Britain's social institutions are bastions of privilege that must be remodelled or destroyed to make way for multiculturalism. The resulting cultural war has left British society brutalised and infantilised, and wide open to attack. Why should British Muslims respect a culture that has no respect for itself?

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It's more a case of Britain having intergrity and always attempting to do the right thing.

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Originally Posted by Storekeeper
It used to be that the British prided themselves on thinking it was their duty to intervene in countries where there existed a corrupt or tyrannical government and believed it was their duty to intervene to keep people from being oppressed by their own rulers (Iraq) ... I think the majority of people in England still believe that way and that's why they support the US in the Iraq. If the British posters would spend a few minutes thinking about it ... my reasons for supporting the war in Iraq are ironically enough very British like.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Quote: Originally Posted by Storekeeper It used to be that the British prided themselves on thinking it was their duty to intervene in countries where there existed a corrupt or tyrannical government and believed it was their duty to intervene to keep people from being oppressed by their own rulers (Iraq) ... I think the majority of people in England still believe that way and that's why they support the US in the Iraq. If the British posters would spend a few minutes thinking about it ... my reasons for supporting the war in Iraq are ironically enough very British like.

I know what you're saying, it's just that when you lot do it, you make a right fucking mess of it.

Americans are better at diplomacy than the British ever dreamed of being. Get over it Marmite ... get off your delusional bar stool, and wake up and smell the coffee. Lay off the Speckled Hen for a while my man.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Lay off the Speckled Hen for a while my man.

Is Guinness ok?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Americans are better at diplomacy than the British ever dreamed of being.

You crack me up sometimes. How can you say that when your senior diplomat is that awful Rice woman?

Let's not forget that master of mediocrity and moustaches - John Bolton!!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Americans are better at diplomacy than the British ever dreamed of being.

You crack me up sometimes. How can you say that when your senior diplomat is that awful Rice woman?

Because a couple of my bar stool buddies told me so. You know how that works.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Americans are better at diplomacy than the British ever dreamed of being.

You crack me up sometimes. How can you say that when your senior diplomat is that awful Rice woman?

Because a couple of my bar stool buddies told me so. You know how that works.

Fair enough. It must be true then.

Originally Posted by Wallace

Let's not forget that master of mediocrity and moustaches - John Bolton!!

John Bolton is one of the authors that wrote the Proposal For the New American Century.

It specifically states that the U.S. should use the military to enforce its economic interests.

Sounds alot like Germany or Japan this past century.

What do Nazi Germany, Imperialist Japan, and the United States (as of this moment) have in common?

Originally Posted by Milkman

It specifically states that the U.S. should use the military to enforce its economic interests.

And what's wrong with that?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Milkman

It specifically states that the U.S. should use the military to enforce its economic interests.

And what's wrong with that?

First,

you tell what's right with that.

Hard to argue that Iraq bred these terrorists but the appeasment camp will find a way. More islamofascist bombings in Thailand.

Bombs hit 22 banks in southern Thailand

you think we sympathize with the fokwits bombing the south??

you gotta be kidding.I wont even feel sorry for them if they are wiped off the face of the earth right now but unfortunately Thi government doesn't want.

Just a reminder of who and what we are fighting for all you appeasement-monkeys...

For Us??

Did you take your meds today BoonMee??

they are fighting for all the oil.

boon mee's 'reminder' came from a radio talk show host in the US.

here are the titles of some of his other 'columns'.....

world opinion is worthless
thank god for moral violence
how to identify american totalitarians
first they came for israel, then they came for america

Townhall.com::Columnists:ennis Prager

class.

boon mee, why do you feel the need to post other people's opinions?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Just a reminder of who and what we are fighting for all you appeasement-monkeys...

I'll take "Big Oil Companies, The Big 3 Automakers, and Joe Sixpack in his Gas Guzzling SUV or Pickup for $1000, Alex."