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    Typical of your ilk to resort to name calling. Peace in the middle east ain't gonna happen until the Palestinians get their homeland, like you always say, it's all about choices.


    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    But you're too centered around hate and conflict to see the progress.
    I'm not the one supporting the aiders and abettors of the conflict. You support the ones who stonewall the progress at every turn.

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    Back on topic;

    Why do people hate Jewish people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Why do people hate Jewish people?
    Because they control the weather?

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    Yeah, Canuck Jew hater -- what drives you?

    ^pathetic non-response.

    Come on... why do some people, even if it's not you, hate jews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    I also think a democratic Iraq is the first step.
    are they allowed to vote in HAMAS ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Yeah, Canuck Jew hater -- what drives you?
    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    Why is any criticism of Israel (which is a country, not a religion) always labeled as anti-semitism?
    Don't fall into the trap Tex.

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    Gimme a reason to hate Israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    A man of few words -- opinions -- limp as all get-out. Running from an opinion like a scalded dog. Lame as fuck.
    Yup, that pretty much sums you up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    I also think a democratic Iraq is the first step.
    are they allowed to vote in HAMAS ?
    America only supports a certain kind of democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    America only supports a certain kind of democracy.
    How many types are there?
    I really don't know and would appreciate the knowledge.

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    Wishy-washy don't answer any questions, boys.

    Why should the rest of the advanced worldsd not include Isreal among their ranks?

    I'm having a hard time understanding your logic.

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    Same old same old..... no answers, no objective statements.

    I'm still in the dark........

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    I gotta say those 2 links thoroughly answer the question in a very logical educated manner. Even though the second link is addressed to Christians can easily be understood by anyone.

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    Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:
    1. Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power."
    2. Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people."
    3. Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles."
    4. Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus."
    5. Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.)
    6. Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

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    But none of that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    Even reacharounds know that cruci-fiction was a Roman punishment, and that if the Jews killed him he woulda been stoned to death, which is nowadays regarded as a barbaric form of entertainment.
    Aah yes the actual killing was done by Romans but that doesn't make the jews innocent.

    Jesus was betrayed by another jew, one of his own, the disciple Judas.

    "Jesus was brought before the Jewish chief priests for trial. When questioned, he said very little but affirmed he was the Messiah. He was then judged worthy of death for blasphemy and handed over to the Roman governor of Judea, Pontius Pilate, for punishment. Although reluctant to condemn Jesus for reasons not entirely clear, Pilate sentenced Jesus to death at the insistance of the mob that had gathered."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Gimme a reason to hate Israel
    Here's plenty:

    This collection of resolutions criticizing Israel is unmatched by the record of any other nation.
    • 1955-1992:
    • * Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid".
    • * Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
    • * Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
    • * Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
    • * Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
    • * Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
    • * Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
    • * Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
    • * Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
    • * Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
    • * Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
    • * Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
    • * Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
    • * Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
    • * Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
    • * Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
    • *Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
    • * Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
    • * Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
    • * Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
    • * Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
    • * Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
    • obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
    • * Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
    • * Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
    • states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
    • * Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
    • two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
    • * Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
    • council's order not to deport Palestinians".
    • * Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide
    • by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
    • * Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
    • * Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its
    • claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'".
    • * Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported
    • Palestinian mayors".
    • * Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
    • nuclear facility".
    • * Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
    • Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith".
    • * Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
    • * Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
    • allow food supplies to be brought in".
    • * Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
    • and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
    • * Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
    • * Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
    • in attack on PLO headquarters.
    • * Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
    • its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
    • * Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students
    • at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
    • * Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
    • denying the human rights of Palestinians.
    • * Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
    • requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
    • * Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
    • * Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
    • * Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
    • * Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians
    • at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
    • * Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United
    • Nations.
    • * Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of
    • Palestinians.
    • * Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and
    • calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
    • * Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
    • * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians
    • and calls for there immediate return.

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    Yeah, I'd agree, It's all nonsense.

    Hardly worth fighting over. Unless you're a rabid, religious nutter.

    Are you suggesting its worth fighting over to protect a few thousand people the Israelis have vowed to protect?

    Is this a notion worth risking the safety and security of the entire western, advanced, world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    Hardly worth fighting over. Unless you're a rabid, religious nutter.
    Or someone who is against apartheid.

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    wow! There's a stretch.

    Have you missed your last issue of Harry Potter?

    Weren't you the fucktard suggesting Tower Seven Conspiracy?

    Yes, it all makes sense now -- go home and try your best to convince someone else is the bogeyman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck
    It happens more than can be explained by coincidence or demographic spread.
    I'd like to see some credible evidence for that.
    It's a wierd one for sure. The reasons tend to be the NWO conspiracy theory and/or general racist bigotry.

    One guy in a bar in Changers (he hated Jews) told me it was because they are always feeling sorry for themselves with the 'victim label' and using the holocaust as a crutch (possibly) and exclusionistic (not quite true) etc etc.
    I really can't see that as an excuse for hating them though. Indeed I was helped out greatly by a very cool dude Jew and am still friends with him now.

    I know the Zionist Protocols (which have officially been claimed to be fake) did serious damage to the Jewish peoples good names when they were 'discovered' in 1900s. Despite being denounced as fake the Nazis still used them as an excuse I think and even to this day there are those who claim they are authentic!! :O

    This is the NWO conspiracy theory slant on it which states that a super secret society (usually based in NE USA) of shadowy Jewish types pull the strings in Capitol Hill and other corridors of power to take over the world.
    It goes deep and waaay off at a tangent so I won't bore you with the details as this isn't really a conspiracy site however if it is true they must be the biggest bozos going if they haven't pulled it off yet as they've had xxxx years to do it!

    For me personally the only Jews I dislike are the Russian ones that went on the rampage (on Stalins orders) in the 1930s. The Christians took the brunt of it (as it became a vendetta) and there are some that call for it be recognised as a 'mini holocaust' prior to the one against the Jews by Hitler.

    Nowadays with Israel up against the wall i don't have any beef with them or Jews in general though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    wow! There's a stretch. Have you missed your last issue of Harry Potter? Weren't you the fucktard suggesting Tower Seven Conspiracy? Yes, it all makes sense now -- go home and try your best to convince someone else is the bogeyman.
    Keep shifting the post and don't give a thought out response, par for the course.

    You also have me confused with Jesus Jones. Though I do believe there are many unanswered questions about 911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    So this tiny group of people have a tiny plot of land with a hint of population surrounded by a massive group of people with huge populations who hate their guts and routinely attack this minuscule hovel only to have their raggedy asses kicked time and time again.

    I think I rather admire them.
    Well said Mr Tex, you are starting to sound like a cool dude again

    Yes, the Israeli's are certainly up against it out there folks.
    If you read certain media articles you can usually ascertain which ones are anti Israel by the exhaustive coverage they give the Palestinians and Lebanese. The BBC being a particular one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slipstream
    If you read certain media articles you can usually ascertain which ones are anti Israel by the exhaustive coverage they give the Palestinians and Lebanese. The BBC being a particular one.
    And I suppose you think the coverage of the Palestinians and Lebanon should just be swept under the carpet? Israel got their ass kicked in Lebanon and rightfully so.

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